*UPDATED * SF Josh Allen trade

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*UPDATED * SF Josh Allen trade

Postby Dynastycommissioner » Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:31 pm

We start QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, TE,4-Flex and 1 SF.
PPR. 12 team

Would you rather have Waddle and 1.04 or Allen?


***new offer Allen and a late 2023 1st for Lamb and 1.03
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Re: SF Josh Allen trade

Postby Gator Sens » Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:41 pm

Value is on the Allen side based on the SF format.

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Re: SF Josh Allen trade

Postby Dynastycommissioner » Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:46 pm

By how much?

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Re: SF Josh Allen trade

Postby Gator Sens » Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:49 pm

Dynastycommissioner wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:46 pm By how much?
Based on how weak this class looks at QB, I would need some kind of young upside QB coming back for hope. Allen is arguably the best asset in SF considering his ceiling. Waddle is great but Allen is super valuable.

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Re: SF Josh Allen trade

Postby abloom » Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:25 pm

How many teams?
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01

Team #5 4th
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009

Team #6 orphan
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07

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Re: SF Josh Allen trade

Postby Dynastycommissioner » Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:26 pm

abloom wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:25 pm How many teams?
12

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Re: SF Josh Allen trade

Postby abloom » Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:31 pm

Dynastycommissioner wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:26 pm
abloom wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:25 pm How many teams?
12
Allen by an early 1st then
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01

Team #5 4th
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009

Team #6 orphan
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07

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Re: SF Josh Allen trade

Postby The.Big.Spank » Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:40 pm

I would want a QB like Fields to go with Waddle and a late first. I know thats a bit pricey by a first, but thats what I would want to move on from a young QB1 and taking on that risk.
Team 1: 16 Team
QB's: Fields, Wentz,
RB: D. Harris, D. Montgomery, Kendre M.
WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer

Team 2: 12 Team SF 1ppr, Start 10
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
(2024) 1.03, 2.03, 3.03
(2025) Top 3 1st, my 1st

Team 3 SF, TEP, Start 11 ppr
QB: AR, Watson, Young, Levis
RB: ETN, Walker, Pierce, Akers, Pacheco, Herbert, Warren, Kelley
WR: G. Wilson, Higgins, Godwin, Kirk, Bateman, Collins, Doubs, Chark, Shaheed,
TE: Schultz, I Smith, Bellinger, Parham, Fant, Likely, Granson,

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Re: SF Josh Allen trade

Postby abloom » Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:46 pm

The.Big.Spank wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:40 pm I would want a QB like Fields to go with Waddle and a late first. I know thats a bit pricey by a first, but thats what I would want to move on from a young QB1 and taking on that risk.
I don't think that's pricey at all.

Allen is the QB2 with probably a legit shot at QB1 in fantasy. I know I said early 1st needs to be added but really it's a young QB that needs to be added like fields.
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01

Team #5 4th
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009

Team #6 orphan
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07

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Re: SF Josh Allen trade

Postby Yarnith » Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:56 pm

Year 2 of Allens real emergence as a top QB1 leans towards he isn't going to regress. I would say the gap is greater than another early 1st.
Cavaliers 12 team standard, 1QB, 1RB, 1WR, 2WR/TE, 1flex
QB: J. Allen, S. Howell, Z.Wilson
RB: A. Kamara, J. Taylor, CEH, K. Gainwell, P. Strong
WR: A.J. Brown, A. Cooper, J. Dotson, C. Ridley, E. Moore, W. Robinson, J. Meyers, T. Marshall,
TE: G. Kittle, J. Johnson, J. Woods, H. Henry
'23 1.10, 2.10, 3.10 '24 1, 2, 3
Recent Championships '19,'21,'22

Fosters Home for Imaginary Friends- 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Mahomes, Purdy, Lance
RB: Pierce, Miller, K. Herbert, E. Hull
WR: Chase, Watson, Davis, JSN, Metchie, Pierce, V. Jefferson, Claypool, Thornton, Westbrook-Ikhine
TE: Pitts, Woods, Latu

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Re: SF Josh Allen trade

Postby Dynastycommissioner » Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:32 pm

Thanks everyone

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Re: *UPDATED * SF Josh Allen trade

Postby zaner75 » Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:18 pm

Personally, I think the updated offer is much worse. The Allen owner does not have to add anything in any deal. Without getting a QB back, imo, I'm not considering anything less than 3 prime pieces (young, ascending position players and/or top 3 draft picks). If that kills any trade talks, I'm fine holding Allen but that's how I play superflex.
By trading away a consensus top 3 elite QB, the Allen owner will end chasing QB, always hoping to find a young elite QB when they already had one.
If you're trying to acquire Allen, best of luck trying to convince the other manager to sell low. If you're holding Allen, ask for the moon.

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Re: *UPDATED * SF Josh Allen trade

Postby Ruggenater » Mon Jan 17, 2022 9:36 am

The updated deal isn’t enough even if you take the 1st off the Allen side.
12 Team Superflex - PPR, 0.25 PPC - QB/2RB/3WR/TE/Flex/Superflex
QB: L Jackson, Tagovailoa, Rodgers, Pickett, Tannehill
RB: Swift, Pacheco, Sanders, Hubbard, Spears, Dillon, Herbert, McLaughlin, Chandler, Dowdle
WR: DeVonta, Waddle, Aiyuk, Nacua, McLaurin, Hopkins, M Williams, Mingo, Wan’Dale, Hyatt
TE: Kelce, Okonkwo, Schoonmaker

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Re: *UPDATED * SF Josh Allen trade

Postby Gator Sens » Mon Jan 17, 2022 9:38 am

I think you are losing in the updated offer as well.

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Re: *UPDATED * SF Josh Allen trade

Postby The.Big.Spank » Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:08 am

lol, the new offer is even worse. You dont see that too often.

"No to my first? Well here, let me make it even poorer. How about now?" lol
Team 1: 16 Team
QB's: Fields, Wentz,
RB: D. Harris, D. Montgomery, Kendre M.
WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer

Team 2: 12 Team SF 1ppr, Start 10
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
(2024) 1.03, 2.03, 3.03
(2025) Top 3 1st, my 1st

Team 3 SF, TEP, Start 11 ppr
QB: AR, Watson, Young, Levis
RB: ETN, Walker, Pierce, Akers, Pacheco, Herbert, Warren, Kelley
WR: G. Wilson, Higgins, Godwin, Kirk, Bateman, Collins, Doubs, Chark, Shaheed,
TE: Schultz, I Smith, Bellinger, Parham, Fant, Likely, Granson,


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