Think I know where opinions will fall on this trade but interested to see them in any case (I'm not involved in the trade).
14 team PPR Superflex
Team A trades: Russell Wilson, Hunter Renfrow, Rex Burkhead, 2023 3rd
Team B trades: Josh Allen, Odell Beckham
Thoughts about this trade
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slaughterrt
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Re: Thoughts about this trade
Allen side easily.
Re: Thoughts about this trade
Long term and current value is josh Allen in 14 teamer but I think Renfrow is an under rated asset so the if I needed 2 solid players I’d ask for a little more on the Wilson/Renfrow side
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Re: Thoughts about this trade
At this time, the Allen side but I love Renfrow. Depending on what happens with Russ, it could be closer.
Team 1 -12 Team, 0.5 PPR, QRRWWWTF 2022 Champ
QB: Allen, Purdy, Love
RB: Mixon, AJones, Swift, Dillon, Dobbins
WR: Jefferson, AJB, DJM, NCollins, Sutton, NCollins, Mingo
TE: Hockenson
1.10
Team 2 -12 Team, 0.5 PPR, QRRWWWTF - 2023 Champ
QB: Murray, Love
RB: Hall, Gibbs, Walker, Dobbins, KMitchell, EMitchell
WR: DSmith, Addison, Kupp DJM, Dionte, Chark
TE: Engram, Mayer, Waller
1.02, 1.09, 2.09, 2.12
Team 3-12 Team, SF, 0.5 PPR, QRRWWWTFS - 2023 Champ
QB: Purdy, Dak Stafford
RB: Taylor, Henry, Conner Najee, Warren, ZMoss EMitchell
WR: Samuel, DJM, Sutton Bateman, Pierce, Chark
TE: Kittle
1.02, 1.12, 2.12; 2025 1st x2, 2nd x3
QB: Allen, Purdy, Love
RB: Mixon, AJones, Swift, Dillon, Dobbins
WR: Jefferson, AJB, DJM, NCollins, Sutton, NCollins, Mingo
TE: Hockenson
1.10
Team 2 -12 Team, 0.5 PPR, QRRWWWTF - 2023 Champ
QB: Murray, Love
RB: Hall, Gibbs, Walker, Dobbins, KMitchell, EMitchell
WR: DSmith, Addison, Kupp DJM, Dionte, Chark
TE: Engram, Mayer, Waller
1.02, 1.09, 2.09, 2.12
Team 3-12 Team, SF, 0.5 PPR, QRRWWWTFS - 2023 Champ
QB: Purdy, Dak Stafford
RB: Taylor, Henry, Conner Najee, Warren, ZMoss EMitchell
WR: Samuel, DJM, Sutton Bateman, Pierce, Chark
TE: Kittle
1.02, 1.12, 2.12; 2025 1st x2, 2nd x3
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Re: Thoughts about this trade
Allen easily for me.
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Re: Thoughts about this trade
Allen is the best piece but if Wilson rebounds, I think this could look different next year as Renfrow is a much better asset then Beckham.
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bennythedog93
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Re: Thoughts about this trade
Allen side easy for me but it’s close and fair, if that’s where it was going.
PW league - 10 tm Dynasty league-Roster/Keep 28 - Pass:1/20 3pt TD; Run/Rec:1/10 6pt TD; no ppr; no neg pts
st:1 qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, 1 te, 1 k, 1 d, no flex
QB - TLaw, Tua, JimmyG
RB - Chubb, Javonte, Perine, Jaleel, BRob, Moss, Bigsby, RoJo (Chi), Tucker, C-Rod, Chase, Spiller, Zamir
WR - Addison, Godwin, Nico, Gabe, Zay Jones, Mooney, Hyatt, Tillman
TE - Kincaid, Kraft
PK -Tucker
Def - 49ers
Picks: 2024 - 1-7, add’l 3rd; 2025 - 1-7
E league - 14 team-can keep up to 9 but keeper round moves up 1 each year, no 1st or 2nd round players can be kept; number is parens = next year’s keeper round; * = player was kept for 2023
Pass 1/20, 4pt TD, Run/Rec 1/10, 6pt TD, 1ppr, Fum/Int = -1, other scoring is pretty regular
QB - Jimmy G(*16), Purdy(*9), Stafford(12)
RB - D-Mont, AJ Dillon, Lenny(17), Carter (19), D’Onta(9), P Taylor
WR - JJeff(3), Adams(*4), Godwin(*8), MWill(*5), OBJ(*13), Woods, Hyatt(10), Tillman(18)
TE - PatF(6), Mayer(10)
PK - Moody
Def - TBB
st:1 qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, 1 te, 1 k, 1 d, no flex
QB - TLaw, Tua, JimmyG
RB - Chubb, Javonte, Perine, Jaleel, BRob, Moss, Bigsby, RoJo (Chi), Tucker, C-Rod, Chase, Spiller, Zamir
WR - Addison, Godwin, Nico, Gabe, Zay Jones, Mooney, Hyatt, Tillman
TE - Kincaid, Kraft
PK -Tucker
Def - 49ers
Picks: 2024 - 1-7, add’l 3rd; 2025 - 1-7
E league - 14 team-can keep up to 9 but keeper round moves up 1 each year, no 1st or 2nd round players can be kept; number is parens = next year’s keeper round; * = player was kept for 2023
Pass 1/20, 4pt TD, Run/Rec 1/10, 6pt TD, 1ppr, Fum/Int = -1, other scoring is pretty regular
QB - Jimmy G(*16), Purdy(*9), Stafford(12)
RB - D-Mont, AJ Dillon, Lenny(17), Carter (19), D’Onta(9), P Taylor
WR - JJeff(3), Adams(*4), Godwin(*8), MWill(*5), OBJ(*13), Woods, Hyatt(10), Tillman(18)
TE - PatF(6), Mayer(10)
PK - Moody
Def - TBB
Re: Thoughts about this trade
I think id prefer the Allen side, but it's not by a lot. Russ has been frustrating the last couple of years. He'll be a world-beater for a stretch, and then he'll sink you for 6 straight weeks. If Russ lands in a good location this offseason I'd possibly reconsider, but if he remains in Seattle, i'm talking the Allen side for sure.
10 team Dynasty league with 6pts for all TDs.
QB, 2RB, 2WR, Flex (WRT), TE, K, & DST
League established: 2010
League champ: 2013, 2014, 2015(runner-up), 2016, 2017(runner-up), 2018, 2021
QB- Burrow, Lawrence, Lance
RB- Kamara, Swift, Javonte, Saquon, JK, Akers, E. Mitchell, Penny
WR- Jefferson, Chase, DK, Tee, Diontae, Pittman, Bateman, Rondale
TE- Pitts, Knox, Freiermuth
DST - Chi
10 team PPR Dynasty with 6pts for all TDs.
QB, 2RB, 3WR, Flex (WRT), TE, K, & DST
League established: 2019
QB- Wilson, Lawrence, Lance
RB- Taylor, Swift, CEH, E. Mitchell, Sermon, AJ Dillon, Stevenson, Penny, Patterson
WR- Jefferson, Chase, DJM, Diontae, OBJ, Palmer, Marshall, Rondale
TE- Hockenson, Irv Smith, Kmet, Trautman
Dst - TB, Mia
QB, 2RB, 2WR, Flex (WRT), TE, K, & DST
League established: 2010
League champ: 2013, 2014, 2015(runner-up), 2016, 2017(runner-up), 2018, 2021
QB- Burrow, Lawrence, Lance
RB- Kamara, Swift, Javonte, Saquon, JK, Akers, E. Mitchell, Penny
WR- Jefferson, Chase, DK, Tee, Diontae, Pittman, Bateman, Rondale
TE- Pitts, Knox, Freiermuth
DST - Chi
10 team PPR Dynasty with 6pts for all TDs.
QB, 2RB, 3WR, Flex (WRT), TE, K, & DST
League established: 2019
QB- Wilson, Lawrence, Lance
RB- Taylor, Swift, CEH, E. Mitchell, Sermon, AJ Dillon, Stevenson, Penny, Patterson
WR- Jefferson, Chase, DJM, Diontae, OBJ, Palmer, Marshall, Rondale
TE- Hockenson, Irv Smith, Kmet, Trautman
Dst - TB, Mia
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Re: Thoughts about this trade
Pretty even as I think Renfrow is underrated and Wilson should bounce back but I’d personally prefer the Allen side by a good amount
Team 1:
10 team SF, .5 ppr
1-QB 1-SF 3-WR 2-RB 1-TE 1-Flex
QB: Allen, Burrow, Goff, Aidan OConnel
RB: ETN, K Walker, Swift, D Pierce, Monty, Herbert, McLaughlin
WR: Deebo, AJB, Lamb, DJM, Dell, Higgins, Jeudy, E Moore, Michael Wilson, Tutu
TE: Kinkaid, Schultz, Njoku
10 team SF, .5 ppr
1-QB 1-SF 3-WR 2-RB 1-TE 1-Flex
QB: Allen, Burrow, Goff, Aidan OConnel
RB: ETN, K Walker, Swift, D Pierce, Monty, Herbert, McLaughlin
WR: Deebo, AJB, Lamb, DJM, Dell, Higgins, Jeudy, E Moore, Michael Wilson, Tutu
TE: Kinkaid, Schultz, Njoku
Re: Thoughts about this trade
Thanks for all of the input. This league uses owner vote to approve/veto every trade, majority of uninvolved owners. This was the first trade (league started in 2020, going into 3rd season) that was vetoed (6-2 at the time the veto was triggered). 4 owners, including myself, did not have a chance to vote. I didn't see the trade or votes until after it had all transpired. Stupid work 
The owner trading away Josh Allen has shown a history of making lopsided (against himself) trades. Guess the league took a stand even though there was no collusion. I think it was a severe underpay for a consensus top 4 dynasty superflex asset but wouldn't have vetoed.
Don't want to derail the thread with opinions about allowing vetoes or not. I have since made an offer for Josh Allen, giving more, in my perception, than that package but Allen owner hasn't been on to accept or decline as of yet.
The owner trading away Josh Allen has shown a history of making lopsided (against himself) trades. Guess the league took a stand even though there was no collusion. I think it was a severe underpay for a consensus top 4 dynasty superflex asset but wouldn't have vetoed.
Don't want to derail the thread with opinions about allowing vetoes or not. I have since made an offer for Josh Allen, giving more, in my perception, than that package but Allen owner hasn't been on to accept or decline as of yet.
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