Waddle for Kelce

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Waddle for Kelce

Postby WOATjohn » Thu Dec 02, 2021 6:44 pm

I am 10-1 and the clear best team but I am lacking a TE.

I was just offered Kelce for my Waddle
Snap accept to make me OP?


12 team .5PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 2Flex, 1TE
QB: Stafford
RB: Taylor, Swift, Robinson, Sanders, Hubbard,
WR: Hill, Chase, Deebo, D Johnson, Waddle, Pittman, Marshall, Edwards
TE: Higbee

All 2021 picks
12tm SF/TEP 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX, 1SF
**23 Champ**
QB: Hurts, Goff, Mayfield, B Zappe
RB: Ekeler, Pollard, Mostert, Warren, A Jones, Mattison, Dillon, D Cook, Gray
WR: Hill, Moore, Adams, D Smith, Cooper, Dortch, Hardman
TE: Kelce, Ferguson, I Smith, Ruckert, Hendershot, Washington
3, 4

12tm PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3FLX
1st rd exit
QB: Jackson, Watson, Howell
RB: Breece, Bijan, Mostert, R Johnson, Demercado, D Foreman, Gray, D Johnson
WR: Tyreek Hill, Garrett Wilson, Tee Higgins, DeVonta Smith, Smith-Njigba, J Williams, D Bell, Bateman, N Brown, Phillips, Gage, Iosivas
TE: Kincaid, Ferguson, Granson

12tm PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX
FULL REBUILD
QB: Richardson, Ridder, Lance
RB: Achane, Javonte, Ahmed, Abanikanda, Strong, Scott, Penny, McBride
WR: G Davis, Hollywood, M Wilson, WanDale, Pierce, R Moore, Bell, Marshall
TE: Freiermuth, Kraft, Knox, Ruckert, Schoonmaker, Strange
1.01, 1.08, 1.12, 2.01, 3.01, 3.07, 3.08, 4.01, 4.02, 4.11, 5.01, 5.05, 5.10

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Re: Waddle for Kelce

Postby CurtisMyFavMartin » Thu Dec 02, 2021 6:52 pm

Hard to trade Waddle as his value is taking off but you’re loaded at WR. I’d do that for your build.
Controlled Chaos 12 Team PPR SFLEX~EST. 2015
1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1 TE, 2 FLEX 1SFLEX

2018+2019 CHAMPION
QB Murray/Stafford
RB Bijan, Gibbs, Zeke
WR DJ Moore, Pittman, JSN, Flowers, Addison, Downs, Lazard
TE Hockenson, Schultz, Knox, Irv Smith

4 2024 1sts
3 2024 2nds
2 2025 1sts

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Re: Waddle for Kelce

Postby WOATjohn » Thu Dec 02, 2021 6:59 pm

CurtisMyFavMartin wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 6:52 pm Hard to trade Waddle as his value is taking off but you’re loaded at WR. I’d do that for your build.
I see Kelce as a two year rental, while Waddle is a build around player.

Do you think I need Kelce to win?
12tm SF/TEP 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX, 1SF
**23 Champ**
QB: Hurts, Goff, Mayfield, B Zappe
RB: Ekeler, Pollard, Mostert, Warren, A Jones, Mattison, Dillon, D Cook, Gray
WR: Hill, Moore, Adams, D Smith, Cooper, Dortch, Hardman
TE: Kelce, Ferguson, I Smith, Ruckert, Hendershot, Washington
3, 4

12tm PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3FLX
1st rd exit
QB: Jackson, Watson, Howell
RB: Breece, Bijan, Mostert, R Johnson, Demercado, D Foreman, Gray, D Johnson
WR: Tyreek Hill, Garrett Wilson, Tee Higgins, DeVonta Smith, Smith-Njigba, J Williams, D Bell, Bateman, N Brown, Phillips, Gage, Iosivas
TE: Kincaid, Ferguson, Granson

12tm PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX
FULL REBUILD
QB: Richardson, Ridder, Lance
RB: Achane, Javonte, Ahmed, Abanikanda, Strong, Scott, Penny, McBride
WR: G Davis, Hollywood, M Wilson, WanDale, Pierce, R Moore, Bell, Marshall
TE: Freiermuth, Kraft, Knox, Ruckert, Schoonmaker, Strange
1.01, 1.08, 1.12, 2.01, 3.01, 3.07, 3.08, 4.01, 4.02, 4.11, 5.01, 5.05, 5.10

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Re: Waddle for Kelce

Postby Tobin » Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:02 pm

With the ability to start 5WR, Im not doing this deal.... Waddle is to much long term and you have Higbee and he is ok, sure not a Kelce...but Im not trading my youth for this one...
TEAM 1:
12 team 6pt passing TD - 6pts other TDs / 1 ppr
Start QB,2RB,3WR,TE,1Flex,1K,1DST
QB: Fields, Jones, Flacco, Browning
RB: Bijan, Barkley, Swift, K.Williams, J.Warren, Hunt
WR: J.Jefferson, Lamb, D.Adams, Pittman, London, M.Evans, R.Moore, E.Moore
TE: Hockenson, Kmet, Dulcich, Johnson, Otton

TEAM 2:
12 team 4pt passing TD - 6pts other TDs / 1 ppr
Start QB,2RB,3WR,TE,1Flex,1K,1DST
QB: Dak, Pickett, Levis, Browning
RB: Achaine, Gibbs, Spears, Javonte, Gibson
WR: Lamb, Pittman, DJM, J.Williams, JSN, Burks, J.Dotson, E.Moore,
TE: Hockenson, Ferguso, Dulcich, Musgrave

TEAM 3:
12 team 6pt passing TD - 6pts other TDs / 1 pp1 - Superflex, TE Premium
1 QB / 2 RB / 3 WR / 1 TE / 2 Flex / SFlex
QB: Burrow, Richardson, Jones, O'Connell, Zappe
RB: Gibbs, K.Williams, Dobbins, CEH, R.Johnson
WR: Lamb, Pittman, G.Wilson, M.Brown, Sutton, Burks, Z.Jones, D.Douglas, Tillman
TE: Hockenson, Kincaid, Dulcich, Musgrave, Kraft

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Re: Waddle for Kelce

Postby Gator Sens » Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:08 pm

I think Kelce really helps your title push this year and next. Tough to Waddle but I think this gives you a huge boost despite how tough it is to move Waddle now and long term.

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Re: Waddle for Kelce

Postby OhSnapItsAnt » Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:13 pm

Tobin wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:02 pm With the ability to start 5WR, Im not doing this deal.... Waddle is to much long term and you have Higbee and he is ok, sure not a Kelce...but Im not trading my youth for this one...
X2 exactly this for me

I wonder if you can get him for a deal including your 2022 1st?
Team 1:
10 team SF, .5 ppr
1-QB 1-SF 3-WR 2-RB 1-TE 1-Flex
QB: Allen, Burrow, Goff, Aidan OConnel
RB: ETN, K Walker, Swift, D Pierce, Monty, Herbert, McLaughlin
WR: Deebo, AJB, Lamb, DJM, Dell, Higgins, Jeudy, E Moore, Michael Wilson, Tutu
TE: Kinkaid, Schultz, Njoku

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Re: Waddle for Kelce

Postby sloth8u » Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:50 am

I don't think this a snap accept. Really like waddle and own him on some teams. Kelce is performing like a wr 1 again this year, but age is certainly a factor. I just sense your going to be looking for te/flex spots in the next yr or 2 if you move waddle. I'd think hard about this...but I'd check the prices on some other te's before making this trade. May not be popular right now, but I'd see what Sanders could get you.

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Re: Waddle for Kelce

Postby murphysxm » Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:14 am

Sitting at 10-1 confirms you can be successful without Kelce. Waddle's window of production is just so much larger, I would hold.
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Re: Waddle for Kelce

Postby WOATjohn » Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:00 am

sloth8u wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:50 am I don't think this a snap accept. Really like waddle and own him on some teams. Kelce is performing like a wr 1 again this year, but age is certainly a factor. I just sense your going to be looking for te/flex spots in the next yr or 2 if you move waddle. I'd think hard about this...but I'd check the prices on some other te's before making this trade. May not be popular right now, but I'd see what Sanders could get you.
The only TEs available would be Kelce or Hockenson.
If I don’t get a top tier TE to help me now, I’ll just hold my Higbee/Arnold/Irv Smith combo
12tm SF/TEP 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX, 1SF
**23 Champ**
QB: Hurts, Goff, Mayfield, B Zappe
RB: Ekeler, Pollard, Mostert, Warren, A Jones, Mattison, Dillon, D Cook, Gray
WR: Hill, Moore, Adams, D Smith, Cooper, Dortch, Hardman
TE: Kelce, Ferguson, I Smith, Ruckert, Hendershot, Washington
3, 4

12tm PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3FLX
1st rd exit
QB: Jackson, Watson, Howell
RB: Breece, Bijan, Mostert, R Johnson, Demercado, D Foreman, Gray, D Johnson
WR: Tyreek Hill, Garrett Wilson, Tee Higgins, DeVonta Smith, Smith-Njigba, J Williams, D Bell, Bateman, N Brown, Phillips, Gage, Iosivas
TE: Kincaid, Ferguson, Granson

12tm PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX
FULL REBUILD
QB: Richardson, Ridder, Lance
RB: Achane, Javonte, Ahmed, Abanikanda, Strong, Scott, Penny, McBride
WR: G Davis, Hollywood, M Wilson, WanDale, Pierce, R Moore, Bell, Marshall
TE: Freiermuth, Kraft, Knox, Ruckert, Schoonmaker, Strange
1.01, 1.08, 1.12, 2.01, 3.01, 3.07, 3.08, 4.01, 4.02, 4.11, 5.01, 5.05, 5.10

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Re: Waddle for Kelce

Postby CurtisMyFavMartin » Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:03 am

brutuswins wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:00 am
sloth8u wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:50 am I don't think this a snap accept. Really like waddle and own him on some teams. Kelce is performing like a wr 1 again this year, but age is certainly a factor. I just sense your going to be looking for te/flex spots in the next yr or 2 if you move waddle. I'd think hard about this...but I'd check the prices on some other te's before making this trade. May not be popular right now, but I'd see what Sanders could get you.
The only TEs available would be Kelce or Hockenson.
If I don’t get a top tier TE to help me now, I’ll just hold my Higbee/Arnold/Irv Smith combo
What’s the price for Hock? I’d be more into getting him back if the price was cheaper than Kelce
Controlled Chaos 12 Team PPR SFLEX~EST. 2015
1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1 TE, 2 FLEX 1SFLEX

2018+2019 CHAMPION
QB Murray/Stafford
RB Bijan, Gibbs, Zeke
WR DJ Moore, Pittman, JSN, Flowers, Addison, Downs, Lazard
TE Hockenson, Schultz, Knox, Irv Smith

4 2024 1sts
3 2024 2nds
2 2025 1sts

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Re: Waddle for Kelce

Postby abloom » Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:46 am

Ignoring your record for a minute. How do your points scored for the season look compared to other teams?

Since you have your 2022 picks, I'd much rather offer those for a TE.
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01

Team #5 4th
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009

Team #6 orphan
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07

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Re: Waddle for Kelce

Postby TrojanDynasty32 » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:38 am

I would hold on to Waddle. I’d see what TE you can get for your picks and upgrade that way.
Team 1

QB- Carr, Mac
RB- Kamara, Patterson, Swift, Ingram, Foreman, Breida
WR- M Thomas, Metcalf, Keenan, Bourne, AB, Waddle, Green, D-Jax, Landry, St. Brown
TE- Waller, Hockenson
K- Tucker
D- Miami
Start: QB, 2 RBs, 2 WRs, TE, WR/RB, WR/TE, K, D

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Re: Waddle for Kelce

Postby WOATjohn » Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:29 pm

abloom wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:46 am Ignoring your record for a minute. How do your points scored for the season look compared to other teams?

Since you have your 2022 picks, I'd much rather offer those for a TE.
I’ve ask him what he thought of my picks and with them being projected late, he undervalued them.

Before this week, I have 1844 points. Second highest is 1622, 3rd highest is 1519. So I’m pretty high. Been the high scorer about half of the weeks
12tm SF/TEP 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX, 1SF
**23 Champ**
QB: Hurts, Goff, Mayfield, B Zappe
RB: Ekeler, Pollard, Mostert, Warren, A Jones, Mattison, Dillon, D Cook, Gray
WR: Hill, Moore, Adams, D Smith, Cooper, Dortch, Hardman
TE: Kelce, Ferguson, I Smith, Ruckert, Hendershot, Washington
3, 4

12tm PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3FLX
1st rd exit
QB: Jackson, Watson, Howell
RB: Breece, Bijan, Mostert, R Johnson, Demercado, D Foreman, Gray, D Johnson
WR: Tyreek Hill, Garrett Wilson, Tee Higgins, DeVonta Smith, Smith-Njigba, J Williams, D Bell, Bateman, N Brown, Phillips, Gage, Iosivas
TE: Kincaid, Ferguson, Granson

12tm PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX
FULL REBUILD
QB: Richardson, Ridder, Lance
RB: Achane, Javonte, Ahmed, Abanikanda, Strong, Scott, Penny, McBride
WR: G Davis, Hollywood, M Wilson, WanDale, Pierce, R Moore, Bell, Marshall
TE: Freiermuth, Kraft, Knox, Ruckert, Schoonmaker, Strange
1.01, 1.08, 1.12, 2.01, 3.01, 3.07, 3.08, 4.01, 4.02, 4.11, 5.01, 5.05, 5.10

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Re: Waddle for Kelce

Postby hoos89 » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:37 pm

I think I'd hold or at least counter asking for a 2nd back. You actually can start Waddle in your format.
Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up


Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1

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Re: Waddle for Kelce

Postby Anteaters » Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:39 am

I'd try to keep Waddle and make the trade about Deebo or Diontae. Waddle has the type of game that seems built for long term success and is paired with a young QB who will be there for a long time. Deebo has already suffered worrisome injuries, has QB insecurity, and is playing RB too much for my comfort. DJ had another brutal drop yesterday, has QB insecurity, and is playing for a team that notoriously recycles young WRs when they come up for big contracts.

Go for Kelce, but use one of those other guys as bait.
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, Greenlaw; (DE/DL) ZCollins, BJHill; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates, Witherspoon
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion

TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser


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