Smash accept for J Taylor?
Smash accept for J Taylor?
Bit nervous to lose Cook as he has been the core of my team for years, but I've been snakebit in semis/finals 3 years running and wondering if now is the right time to move off him (especially with recent allegations). I'm 9-0 with most points and should lock up the #1 seed for a bye in 1st round. Just confirmed the following trade in Superflex, only need to hit accept:
Cook + Darnold + PJ Walker + my 2022 1st
for
J Taylor + Wentz
My roster:
1 QB, 1 SF, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex
Russ, Burrow, Darnold, Fitzmagic, PJ Walker
Cook, A Jones, Mixon, AJ Dillon, Mattison, Jamaal Williams, Gainwell, Hasty
Adams, Tyreek, Jefferson, Evans, ARob, Mooney, Renfrow, Slayton, Fuller
Kittle, Schultz, J Smith, Irv Smith
Thanks in advance!
Cook + Darnold + PJ Walker + my 2022 1st
for
J Taylor + Wentz
My roster:
1 QB, 1 SF, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex
Russ, Burrow, Darnold, Fitzmagic, PJ Walker
Cook, A Jones, Mixon, AJ Dillon, Mattison, Jamaal Williams, Gainwell, Hasty
Adams, Tyreek, Jefferson, Evans, ARob, Mooney, Renfrow, Slayton, Fuller
Kittle, Schultz, J Smith, Irv Smith
Thanks in advance!
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Re: Smash accept for J Taylor?
The 1st makes this a bit tougher but Taylor is the #1 back in dynasty and has better years ahead then Cook. It does feel pricey, but I think this is a good move to get out of Cook for a young elite back. Darnold and Walker both have very little value even in SF and you win there with Wentz too. Darnold had hopes coming into the year, but he just does not have it. He looks like a career backup moving forward.
Re: Smash accept for J Taylor?
Appreciate the thoughts, guess I'm most concerned with losing out on this year (if Taylor goes down). With Cook, I have Mattison to back him - but realize the upgrade to Wentz from Darnold/PJ could be big this year as well in a pinch. I also potentially have the option of grabbing Monty for my 1st + Mooney + Gainwell, wondering if that is a better route to playing it safe for this year?Gator Sens wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 3:26 pm The 1st makes this a bit tougher but Taylor is the #1 back in dynasty and has better years ahead then Cook. It does feel pricey, but I think this is a good move to get out of Cook for a young elite back. Darnold and Walker both have very little value even in SF and you win there with Wentz too. Darnold had hopes coming into the year, but he just does not have it. He looks like a career backup moving forward.
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Re: Smash accept for J Taylor?
I followed up on the new post. Short answer here, still the Taylor deal for me.Dibbles wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 3:43 pmAppreciate the thoughts, guess I'm most concerned with losing out on this year (if Taylor goes down). With Cook, I have Mattison to back him - but realize the upgrade to Wentz from Darnold/PJ could be big this year as well in a pinch. I also potentially have the option of grabbing Monty for my 1st + Mooney + Gainwell, wondering if that is a better route to playing it safe for this year?Gator Sens wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 3:26 pm The 1st makes this a bit tougher but Taylor is the #1 back in dynasty and has better years ahead then Cook. It does feel pricey, but I think this is a good move to get out of Cook for a young elite back. Darnold and Walker both have very little value even in SF and you win there with Wentz too. Darnold had hopes coming into the year, but he just does not have it. He looks like a career backup moving forward.
Re: Smash accept for J Taylor?
Like the JT side. Wentz is better than Darnold and JT is better than Cook and a late 2022 first. I think DLF would show the trade even but I think next few years it's JT side.
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Adams Simmons Vaccaro Joseph
12 TM .5ppr 45 RST
Herbert Stroud Mayfield
JT Achane Kamara Ford Pacheco Jaleel
AJB DK Godwin Aiyuk Kirk ZJones RMoore Thornton
Hock F-muth
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Budda McKinney Clark Wilson
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Herbert Stafford Brock Dobbs
Taylor Jacobs Mattison Kyren Jaleel Ford Bigsby
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Kelce Pitts Deguara
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Herbert Fields Garoppolo Ridder
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NBosa Quinnen DJJones Clark F-Myers Taylor Graham
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Adams Simmons Vaccaro Joseph
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Herbert Stroud Mayfield
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Re: Smash accept for J Taylor?
JT side for me
Team 1
Q: Allen, Lamar
W: Devonta, Nuk, Godwin, Adams, Diontae, MT, Bateman, Toney, Osborn
R: JT, Henry, Ekeler, Gibbs, Mattison, Ford
T: Kelce
Team 2
Q: Allen, Mahomes, ARich
W: Jefferson, AJB, Tyreek, GW, Ridley, Godwin, MT, Downs, Toney
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, Breece, J. Cook, Kamara
T: Kelce, Hock
2024: 1.02, 1.04, Pick 21
2025: 1st (early)
Team 3
Q: Lamar, Herbert, Goff, Geno
W: Chase, AJB, Waddle, Pittman, Ridley, MT, Terrace Marshall, Downs
R: CMC, Ekeler, Bijan, Barkley, JT, Kamara, Tucker
T: Andrews, Granson
2024: 1.03, 3rd (late)
Team 4
Q: Mahomes, Allen, Geno
W: Tyreek, Lamb, Ridley, Pittman, Diontae, MT
R: CMC, Henry, JT, Chubb, Dobbins, Tucker
T: Kelce, Gesicki, Kittle
Q: Allen, Lamar
W: Devonta, Nuk, Godwin, Adams, Diontae, MT, Bateman, Toney, Osborn
R: JT, Henry, Ekeler, Gibbs, Mattison, Ford
T: Kelce
Team 2
Q: Allen, Mahomes, ARich
W: Jefferson, AJB, Tyreek, GW, Ridley, Godwin, MT, Downs, Toney
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, Breece, J. Cook, Kamara
T: Kelce, Hock
2024: 1.02, 1.04, Pick 21
2025: 1st (early)
Team 3
Q: Lamar, Herbert, Goff, Geno
W: Chase, AJB, Waddle, Pittman, Ridley, MT, Terrace Marshall, Downs
R: CMC, Ekeler, Bijan, Barkley, JT, Kamara, Tucker
T: Andrews, Granson
2024: 1.03, 3rd (late)
Team 4
Q: Mahomes, Allen, Geno
W: Tyreek, Lamb, Ridley, Pittman, Diontae, MT
R: CMC, Henry, JT, Chubb, Dobbins, Tucker
T: Kelce, Gesicki, Kittle
Re: Smash accept for J Taylor?
As someone who has Wentz, JT and Darnold on my team I feel like I have a good feeling of their value and I would make the move pretty easily. Your pick is virtually guaranteed to be very late, JT has been better than Cook this year and also is 22 years old with no injury history. Wentz is also a decent 3rd qb for sf, I’d make this move. You’re getting the best asset and the best qb in an sf trade, that’s a pretty easy accept.
Team 1
10 team, sf, 0.5 ppr, te prem 1.0 ppr, idp
Start 1 qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, 1 te, 3 flex, 1 sf, 2 dl, 2 lb, 2 db, 1 idp flex
QB- Dak, Tua, Cousins, Minshew, Jimmy G
RB- CMC, Taylor, Achane, Zeke, Pierce, Mostert, Chandler, Ford
WR- Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Devonta, K Allen, Godwin, Lockett, Douglas, Zay Jones
TE- LaPorta, Pitts
DL- Phillips, Burns, Buckner, Thibs
LB- Luvu, E.Jones, Warner Pace
DB- Hamilton, Metellus Hufanga, Bates, Branch
League started in 2020
2020 7th
2021 Champion
2022 Champion
2023 Champion
2024 picks 3.10 and 5.10
Team 2
12 team, SF, 0.5 ppr, 1.0 te prem, idp
Qb - Lamar, Kyler Jacoby
Rb - Achane, KWalk Foreman, Hill, Mattison, Rodriguez
Wr - Wilson, AJB, JSN, Downs Mims, Shaheed, Palmer, Slayton, Noah Brown, Tolbert, Douglas, Metchie
Te - Pitts, Goedert Fant, Schoonmaker,
Dl - Gary, Greenard Mafe, Karlaftis, Bonitto, Tyree, Nwosu
Lb - Luvu, Milano, Wilson Jamin
Db - Hamilton, Brisker Byard, Curl
Picks: 1.06, 1.10, 2.06, 2.10, 3.06, 3.09, 3.10, 3.12, 4.06, 5.06
10 team, sf, 0.5 ppr, te prem 1.0 ppr, idp
Start 1 qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, 1 te, 3 flex, 1 sf, 2 dl, 2 lb, 2 db, 1 idp flex
QB- Dak, Tua, Cousins, Minshew, Jimmy G
RB- CMC, Taylor, Achane, Zeke, Pierce, Mostert, Chandler, Ford
WR- Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Devonta, K Allen, Godwin, Lockett, Douglas, Zay Jones
TE- LaPorta, Pitts
DL- Phillips, Burns, Buckner, Thibs
LB- Luvu, E.Jones, Warner Pace
DB- Hamilton, Metellus Hufanga, Bates, Branch
League started in 2020
2020 7th
2021 Champion
2022 Champion
2023 Champion
2024 picks 3.10 and 5.10
Team 2
12 team, SF, 0.5 ppr, 1.0 te prem, idp
Qb - Lamar, Kyler Jacoby
Rb - Achane, KWalk Foreman, Hill, Mattison, Rodriguez
Wr - Wilson, AJB, JSN, Downs Mims, Shaheed, Palmer, Slayton, Noah Brown, Tolbert, Douglas, Metchie
Te - Pitts, Goedert Fant, Schoonmaker,
Dl - Gary, Greenard Mafe, Karlaftis, Bonitto, Tyree, Nwosu
Lb - Luvu, Milano, Wilson Jamin
Db - Hamilton, Brisker Byard, Curl
Picks: 1.06, 1.10, 2.06, 2.10, 3.06, 3.09, 3.10, 3.12, 4.06, 5.06
Re: Smash accept for J Taylor?
Definitely a smash accept for me. The long term value isn’t even in dispute, but it seems like you’re mainly concerned about getting weaker this year. Speaking as someone who owns zero shares of anyone in this trade, I’d make this deal even in redraft. I feel like you’re letting your sentimentality about what Dalvin’s done for you in the past get in the way of turning the clock back 3.5 years at the position with the shortest shelf life. Regardless of which one has the better ROS, I’d be really surprised if the difference was significant enough to cost you a championship. If you’re winning with Dalvin, you’re probably winning with JT too, right?
And not for nothing, but the fact that you get to keep Mattison is actually a positive. I’m surprised this other owner didn’t include him in the trade, even at the expense of PJ Walker. Even if nothing comes of Cook’s latest off-field drama, he’s still had trouble staying healthy. This trade doesn’t change Mattison’s value. He just goes from being an insurance policy to a lottery ticket.
And not for nothing, but the fact that you get to keep Mattison is actually a positive. I’m surprised this other owner didn’t include him in the trade, even at the expense of PJ Walker. Even if nothing comes of Cook’s latest off-field drama, he’s still had trouble staying healthy. This trade doesn’t change Mattison’s value. He just goes from being an insurance policy to a lottery ticket.
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RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer
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QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
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TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
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QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0
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Re: Smash accept for J Taylor?
Easy deal to make. JT >= Cook and Wentz > late 1st
Re: Smash accept for J Taylor?
Smash accept for me. You’re getting the #1 dynasty RB and a solid QB upgrade. I’m usually high on picks but a late 1st in this class doesn’t carry much weight for me. Think that pick is more likely to miss than not. I’ve been trading out a lot of those for current value.
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Re: Smash accept for J Taylor?
That's pretty much Taylor for Cook, imo. Wentz is at least worth the 1st, and the Carolina QBs don't really factor in. Smash accept for me.
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Re: Smash accept for J Taylor?
Smash accept for Taylor, plus you mentioned you like having Madison if Cook goes down, but from what I see you can still have Madison and make this trade. Hey, maybe you make the trade and cook does go down then you can have Taylor and Madison together which is like getting both the backs Taylor and Cook. That would be a killer win. If you don’t make the trade you’d only have Madison is Cook goes down.
Yea, make this trade and keep Madison!
Yea, make this trade and keep Madison!
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16 Player Roster, 2 Year Taxi Squad
10 Keepers, 2 Round Rookie Draft, 6 Round Supplemental Auction
$100 Combined Auction/FAAB Dollar Base
Lineup: QB, 2xRB, 2xWR, TE, RWT(FLEX), DEF, K
QB: P. Mahomes, B. Mayfield
RB: C. McCaffrey, D. Montgomery, R. Mostert, Jeff Wilson Jr., R. Dowdle, D'Ernest Johnson
WR: D. Moore, P. Nacua, S. Diggs, K. Allen
TE: T. Kelce, I. Likely
K: B. Aubrey
DEF: Browns
IR: N/A
Taxi: N/A
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2024 Auction/FAAB: $100
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2026 Rookie (Taxi) Picks: 1 x 1st & 1 x 2nd
2026 Auction/FAAB: $100
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16 Player Roster, 2 Year Taxi Squad
10 Keepers, 2 Round Rookie Draft, 6 Round Supplemental Auction
$100 Combined Auction/FAAB Dollar Base
Lineup: QB, 2xRB, 2xWR, TE, RWT(FLEX), DEF, K
QB: P. Mahomes, B. Mayfield
RB: C. McCaffrey, D. Montgomery, R. Mostert, Jeff Wilson Jr., R. Dowdle, D'Ernest Johnson
WR: D. Moore, P. Nacua, S. Diggs, K. Allen
TE: T. Kelce, I. Likely
K: B. Aubrey
DEF: Browns
IR: N/A
Taxi: N/A
2024 Rookie (Taxi) Picks: 0 x 1st & 0 x 2nd
2024 Auction/FAAB: $100
2025 Rookie (Taxi) Picks: 0 x 1st & 0 x 2nd
2025 Auction/FAAB: $100
2026 Rookie (Taxi) Picks: 1 x 1st & 1 x 2nd
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Re: Smash accept for J Taylor?
This is an instant smash accept for you. Taylor is lightyears ahead of Cook in dynasty value. And I value Wentz much more so than I value Darnold at QB.
2 QB PPR 10 Team League
2018 Champ, 2019 Champ
QB - Patrick Mahomes, Justin Herbert
WR - Justin Jefferson, Tyreek Hill
RB - Saquon Barkley, Jonathan Taylor
TE - George Kittle
Flex - Joe Mixon, Ceedee Lamb
Notable Bench Players - AJ Dillon, Kareem Hunt, Michael Thomas, OBJ, Calvin Ridley, Diontae Johnson, Brandon Aiyuk, Darnell Mooney, Elijah Moore, Teddy Bridgewater, Trey Lance, Kyle Pitts, Isaiah Spiller
2023 Draft picks - 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2
2 QB, 2 TE PPR 8 Team League
QB - Lamar Jackson, Matthew Stafford
WR - Stefon Diggs, Jamar Chase
RB - CMC, Jonathan Taylor
TE - TJ Hockenson, Dallas Goedert
Flex - AJ Brown, DJ Moore , De'Andre Swift
Notable Bench Players - Nyheim Hines, Keenan Allen, Ceedee Lamb, Jerry Jeudy, Calvin Ridley, Michael Pittman Jr, Darnell Mooney, Kadarius Toney, Baker Mayfield, Trey Lance, Davis Mills, Noah Fant, Evan Engram
2022 Draft picks - 2, 3
2023 Draft picks - 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4
2018 Champ, 2019 Champ
QB - Patrick Mahomes, Justin Herbert
WR - Justin Jefferson, Tyreek Hill
RB - Saquon Barkley, Jonathan Taylor
TE - George Kittle
Flex - Joe Mixon, Ceedee Lamb
Notable Bench Players - AJ Dillon, Kareem Hunt, Michael Thomas, OBJ, Calvin Ridley, Diontae Johnson, Brandon Aiyuk, Darnell Mooney, Elijah Moore, Teddy Bridgewater, Trey Lance, Kyle Pitts, Isaiah Spiller
2023 Draft picks - 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2
2 QB, 2 TE PPR 8 Team League
QB - Lamar Jackson, Matthew Stafford
WR - Stefon Diggs, Jamar Chase
RB - CMC, Jonathan Taylor
TE - TJ Hockenson, Dallas Goedert
Flex - AJ Brown, DJ Moore , De'Andre Swift
Notable Bench Players - Nyheim Hines, Keenan Allen, Ceedee Lamb, Jerry Jeudy, Calvin Ridley, Michael Pittman Jr, Darnell Mooney, Kadarius Toney, Baker Mayfield, Trey Lance, Davis Mills, Noah Fant, Evan Engram
2022 Draft picks - 2, 3
2023 Draft picks - 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4
Re: Smash accept for J Taylor?
I hope you already accepted this
I am just a guy sharing some thoughts
Re: Smash accept for J Taylor?
great deal for JT, congrats
team 1 -start QB RB 2WR TE 2RB/WR 1WR/TE
qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
Watson, Brady, Mills
Ekeler, Hunt, Carson/Penny, DForeman, Mitchell, CPat, Kyren, Ford, KHarris
Cooper, sutton, Chase, Shepard, Atwell, Schwartz, Wan'Dale, Austin III
Gesicki, Engram, Hooper, Woods
team 2 -start QB 2RB 3WR TE 2Flex K D
Cousins, Stafford
DH JT, Ekeler, Kylin Hill, Herbert, KHarris, Chandler
Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Callaway, DPJ, Robby Anderson, Schwartz, Pierce, Wan'Dale, Doubs
Kelce, Andrews, Jacob Harris
qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
Watson, Brady, Mills
Ekeler, Hunt, Carson/Penny, DForeman, Mitchell, CPat, Kyren, Ford, KHarris
Cooper, sutton, Chase, Shepard, Atwell, Schwartz, Wan'Dale, Austin III
Gesicki, Engram, Hooper, Woods
team 2 -start QB 2RB 3WR TE 2Flex K D
Cousins, Stafford
DH JT, Ekeler, Kylin Hill, Herbert, KHarris, Chandler
Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Callaway, DPJ, Robby Anderson, Schwartz, Pierce, Wan'Dale, Doubs
Kelce, Andrews, Jacob Harris
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