Javonte Williams for 2 firsts?
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Javonte Williams for 2 firsts?
It looks like I could get a deal for Javonte Williams for 2 2022 firsts (my own which will probably be late-ish, like 7-10) and another (likely in the 5-9 range) and maybe an auxiliary pick (like a 3rd, but maybe a second). Would you do this? Seems like a good deal for a high upside young back. I'm looking to compete this year, but my team is certain built for competition next year and the following. Just want a gut check. Thanks!
12 team PPR, 1 QB, IDP;
Start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, FLEX, K, DL, LB, DB
2018-2020: consistent ending around 7-9 in standings
2021: 1st in points, playoff runner up
2022: 2nd worst team
QB: Daniel Jones, Purdy
RB: Najee, Jonathan Taylor, Singletary, Jalen Warren, Gibbs
WR: Adams, Pittman, McLaurin, Higgins, Aiyuk, others
TE: Kmet, Henry, Ertz, Ferguson
K: Gay
DL: Nick Bosa
LB: Roquan Smith
DB: Mathieu
Taxi: Hassan Haskins, Keontay Ingram, Boutee
Notable picks: 1 2024 first; 3 2025 1st and 2 2nd; 2026 first and second
Start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, FLEX, K, DL, LB, DB
2018-2020: consistent ending around 7-9 in standings
2021: 1st in points, playoff runner up
2022: 2nd worst team
QB: Daniel Jones, Purdy
RB: Najee, Jonathan Taylor, Singletary, Jalen Warren, Gibbs
WR: Adams, Pittman, McLaurin, Higgins, Aiyuk, others
TE: Kmet, Henry, Ertz, Ferguson
K: Gay
DL: Nick Bosa
LB: Roquan Smith
DB: Mathieu
Taxi: Hassan Haskins, Keontay Ingram, Boutee
Notable picks: 1 2024 first; 3 2025 1st and 2 2nd; 2026 first and second
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Re: Javonte Williams for 2 firsts?
I still think the hype and cost of two 1sts here is too much. Likely the going rate if you want to lock him up though.
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Re: Javonte Williams for 2 firsts?
Thanks for your input. I'm actually surprised you don't buy the hype. Are there any red flags with him i should be aware of? To me he seems like a future RB1.
12 team PPR, 1 QB, IDP;
Start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, FLEX, K, DL, LB, DB
2018-2020: consistent ending around 7-9 in standings
2021: 1st in points, playoff runner up
2022: 2nd worst team
QB: Daniel Jones, Purdy
RB: Najee, Jonathan Taylor, Singletary, Jalen Warren, Gibbs
WR: Adams, Pittman, McLaurin, Higgins, Aiyuk, others
TE: Kmet, Henry, Ertz, Ferguson
K: Gay
DL: Nick Bosa
LB: Roquan Smith
DB: Mathieu
Taxi: Hassan Haskins, Keontay Ingram, Boutee
Notable picks: 1 2024 first; 3 2025 1st and 2 2nd; 2026 first and second
Start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, FLEX, K, DL, LB, DB
2018-2020: consistent ending around 7-9 in standings
2021: 1st in points, playoff runner up
2022: 2nd worst team
QB: Daniel Jones, Purdy
RB: Najee, Jonathan Taylor, Singletary, Jalen Warren, Gibbs
WR: Adams, Pittman, McLaurin, Higgins, Aiyuk, others
TE: Kmet, Henry, Ertz, Ferguson
K: Gay
DL: Nick Bosa
LB: Roquan Smith
DB: Mathieu
Taxi: Hassan Haskins, Keontay Ingram, Boutee
Notable picks: 1 2024 first; 3 2025 1st and 2 2nd; 2026 first and second
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Re: Javonte Williams for 2 firsts?
I dont see any red flags, it's just hard to say what direction their offense and new staff goes one the staff gets fired this season or in the offseason. The potential is there but the production is not matching the price tag currently. That could change though obviously in the future.trying_2B_good wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 12:04 pm Thanks for your input. I'm actually surprised you don't buy the hype. Are there any red flags with him i should be aware of? To me he seems like a future RB1.
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Re: Javonte Williams for 2 firsts?
I think I would but I’d also consider trying something like Carter and the late 1st for Javonte. But I don’t consider Carter as anything special for long term. Javonte is going to be a beast
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10 team SF, .5 ppr
1-QB 1-SF 3-WR 2-RB 1-TE 1-Flex
QB: Allen, Burrow, Goff, Aidan OConnel
RB: ETN, K Walker, Swift, D Pierce, Monty, Herbert, McLaughlin
WR: Deebo, AJB, Lamb, DJM, Dell, Higgins, Jeudy, E Moore, Michael Wilson, Tutu
TE: Kinkaid, Schultz, Njoku
10 team SF, .5 ppr
1-QB 1-SF 3-WR 2-RB 1-TE 1-Flex
QB: Allen, Burrow, Goff, Aidan OConnel
RB: ETN, K Walker, Swift, D Pierce, Monty, Herbert, McLaughlin
WR: Deebo, AJB, Lamb, DJM, Dell, Higgins, Jeudy, E Moore, Michael Wilson, Tutu
TE: Kinkaid, Schultz, Njoku
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Re: Javonte Williams for 2 firsts?
This upcoming draft isn't looking that hot. I'd easily cough up a mid and late 1st for Javonte Williams. He looks the part, catches passes and smells like a future three down workhorse. Also only 21. Yummy.
FFPC Format 12 Team PPR (1.5 TE) Dynasty 1QB 2RB 2WR 2FLEX 1TE 1K 1D / Roster cuts to 16 at season end
QB-Russell Wilson
RB-Saquan Barkely, Dalvin Cook, Melvin Gordon, Chris Carson
WR-Davante Adams, Michael Thomas, Amari Cooper
TE-Travis Kelce, Hunter Henry, Ian Thomas, Jack Doyle
D- Patriots
Team #2 PPR (1.5 TE) Dynasty 1QB 2RB 2WR 2FLEX 1TE 1K 1D / Roster cuts to 16 at season end
FFPC 12 Team
QB Lamar Jackson
RB Joe Mixon, Dalvin Cook, Alvin Kamara, Mark Ingram, Royce Freeman
WR Amari Cooper, JuJu Smith-Shuster, DJ Chark, Kenny Golladay, Jamison Crowder
TE Darren Waller, Ian Thomas, Jared Cook
D- Patriots
QB-Russell Wilson
RB-Saquan Barkely, Dalvin Cook, Melvin Gordon, Chris Carson
WR-Davante Adams, Michael Thomas, Amari Cooper
TE-Travis Kelce, Hunter Henry, Ian Thomas, Jack Doyle
D- Patriots
Team #2 PPR (1.5 TE) Dynasty 1QB 2RB 2WR 2FLEX 1TE 1K 1D / Roster cuts to 16 at season end
FFPC 12 Team
QB Lamar Jackson
RB Joe Mixon, Dalvin Cook, Alvin Kamara, Mark Ingram, Royce Freeman
WR Amari Cooper, JuJu Smith-Shuster, DJ Chark, Kenny Golladay, Jamison Crowder
TE Darren Waller, Ian Thomas, Jared Cook
D- Patriots
Re: Javonte Williams for 2 firsts?
Agree with this. Mid to late ‘22 firsts should have less value than most years. Give me Javonte here.franchise 8 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:43 pm This upcoming draft isn't looking that hot. I'd easily cough up a mid and late 1st for Javonte Williams. He looks the part, catches passes and smells like a future three down workhorse. Also only 21. Yummy.
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Re: Javonte Williams for 2 firsts?
It's understandable that you would consider paying this for him, but personally I would pass. Williams looks like a nice solid RB - nothing special. On a really good offense he could be a top-10 RB, but in a mediocre offense I don't see his skillset as one that will overcome bad circumstances to drag his fantasy production to success
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
LAPORTA
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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Re: Javonte Williams for 2 firsts?
The 50/50 split might mean he never sees enough production to warrant the price tag. You might always get mediocre point totals. The idea of him as an alpha is worth more than he is, right now.