Struggling- Herbert for 4 1sts plus

This is the place for team advice - should I make this trade, should I draft that player, etc.
Badgersfan222
Role Player
Role Player
Posts: 300
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2020 12:43 pm

Struggling- Herbert for 4 1sts plus

Postby Badgersfan222 » Sat Oct 16, 2021 7:44 pm

I got an offer of my J. Herbert, Z. Moss, & Gesicki for 4 1st picks (2 in 2022 & 2 in 2023), 2022 mid 2nd, & Claypool.

The firsts are mid for one set and late for another. That sounds great I don’t think I can do it. Thoughts?

User avatar
Gator Sens
GOAT
GOAT
Posts: 53938
Joined: Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:17 am
Contact:

Re: Struggling- Herbert for 4 1sts plus

Postby Gator Sens » Sat Oct 16, 2021 8:14 pm

Really solid value even in SF with getting Claypool too. With none of the 1sts likely to be early, it makes it not as great. I would not fault anyone for taking or holding here. Tough call...

User avatar
jab3120
Role Player
Role Player
Posts: 426
Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:32 am

Re: Struggling- Herbert for 4 1sts plus

Postby jab3120 » Sat Oct 16, 2021 8:19 pm

I would hold, but it's SUPER close for me.
10 Team Non-PPR league. 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2RB/WR/TE, 1K, 1 DEF (Return Yds *25 yds per 1pt & Ret TD's only count for the player)

QB: J.Allen, T.Tagovailoa
RB: J.Taylor, T.Etienne, N.Harris, J.Conner, Z.Charbonnet, K.Miller, D.Johnson, D.Vaugn
WR: C.Kupp, J.Waddle, DJ Moore, DK Metcalf, J.Reed, Z.Flowers, Jameson, J.Dotson
TE: S.LaPorta, D.Kincaid, T.Kraft
K: J. Tucker
DEF: BAL,

IR: J.K. Dobbins
IR: E.Hull
IR: K.Mitchell
IR: R.Stevenson

2024 1st
2024 1st




2020 League CHAMPION!!
2023 League CHAMPION!!


User avatar
jobiegermano
Captain
Captain
Posts: 845
Joined: Fri May 04, 2018 7:06 am

Re: Struggling- Herbert for 4 1sts plus

Postby jobiegermano » Sat Oct 16, 2021 10:43 pm

Ugh, that’s crazy tough. My gut says take the picks. My OCD needs to know what other QB options you have and if you are a contender this year or not.
Bling Dyna$ty:
10 Owners, Single QB, Non-PPR, TDs = 6
16 Player Roster, 2 Year Taxi Squad
10 Keepers, 2 Round Rookie Draft, 6 Round Supplemental Auction
$100 Combined Auction/FAAB Dollar Base
Lineup: QB, 2xRB, 2xWR, TE, RWT(FLEX), DEF, K


QB: P. Mahomes, B. Mayfield
RB: C. McCaffrey, D. Montgomery, R. Mostert, Jeff Wilson Jr., R. Dowdle, D'Ernest Johnson
WR: D. Moore, P. Nacua, S. Diggs, K. Allen
TE: T. Kelce, I. Likely
K: B. Aubrey
DEF: Browns
IR: N/A
Taxi: N/A

2024 Rookie (Taxi) Picks: 0 x 1st & 0 x 2nd
2024 Auction/FAAB: $100
2025 Rookie (Taxi) Picks: 0 x 1st & 0 x 2nd
2025 Auction/FAAB: $100
2026 Rookie (Taxi) Picks: 1 x 1st & 1 x 2nd
2026 Auction/FAAB: $100

Badgersfan222
Role Player
Role Player
Posts: 300
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2020 12:43 pm

Re: Struggling- Herbert for 4 1sts plus

Postby Badgersfan222 » Sun Oct 17, 2021 3:16 am

jobiegermano wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 10:43 pm Ugh, that’s crazy tough. My gut says take the picks. My OCD needs to know what other QB options you have and if you are a contender this year or not.
Not a contender. I’m 0-10 and likely 1.1 or 1.2 when looking at standings. I have J. Allen, Newton, & Trask.

Lots of good young WR’s though.

User avatar
jobiegermano
Captain
Captain
Posts: 845
Joined: Fri May 04, 2018 7:06 am

Re: Struggling- Herbert for 4 1sts plus

Postby jobiegermano » Sun Oct 17, 2021 5:03 am

Badgersfan222 wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 3:16 am Not a contender. I’m 0-10 and likely 1.1 or 1.2 when looking at standings. I have J. Allen, Newton, & Trask.
Assuming this is single QB, you are leaving either Herbert’s or Allen’s points on your bench every week. I don’t know if you’re going to get a better offer than that and into one would ever fault you for taking it. If you’d rather get players then picks in return, I’d get it, but I’d personally look to move one of those QBs to improve my roster somewhere else. Maybe decide which QB you would rather have and then if it’s Herbert you could see if they’d switch Allen in Herbert’s place. If you don’t need Claypool, you should view him as another asset for your next trade, or maybe he replaces someone else on your roster and they get traded, either way I like collecting assets however I can whether to use myself or as trade pieces.

Like I said, it’s a tough call, but a fair offer, and I’d look to trade one those WBs away to improve my weekly output, otherwise you’ll have one on your bench forever.
Bling Dyna$ty:
10 Owners, Single QB, Non-PPR, TDs = 6
16 Player Roster, 2 Year Taxi Squad
10 Keepers, 2 Round Rookie Draft, 6 Round Supplemental Auction
$100 Combined Auction/FAAB Dollar Base
Lineup: QB, 2xRB, 2xWR, TE, RWT(FLEX), DEF, K


QB: P. Mahomes, B. Mayfield
RB: C. McCaffrey, D. Montgomery, R. Mostert, Jeff Wilson Jr., R. Dowdle, D'Ernest Johnson
WR: D. Moore, P. Nacua, S. Diggs, K. Allen
TE: T. Kelce, I. Likely
K: B. Aubrey
DEF: Browns
IR: N/A
Taxi: N/A

2024 Rookie (Taxi) Picks: 0 x 1st & 0 x 2nd
2024 Auction/FAAB: $100
2025 Rookie (Taxi) Picks: 0 x 1st & 0 x 2nd
2025 Auction/FAAB: $100
2026 Rookie (Taxi) Picks: 1 x 1st & 1 x 2nd
2026 Auction/FAAB: $100

Badgersfan222
Role Player
Role Player
Posts: 300
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2020 12:43 pm

Re: Struggling- Herbert for 4 1sts plus

Postby Badgersfan222 » Sun Oct 17, 2021 5:17 am

It’s SF

SteveMaddensShoes
Legend
Legend
Posts: 5063
Joined: Sun May 03, 2015 11:28 pm

Re: Struggling- Herbert for 4 1sts plus

Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:48 am

This is awful close. The equivalant of five 1sts for a QB is probably enough to take it. You are getting another QB next year with your pick. Then hopefully you snag a Wilson/Mac Jones type in the middle to late 1st.

Really hard to get rid of Herbert but I think you have to pull the trigger on it. for an 0-10 team this makes alot of sense for the complete overhaul.

A mid plus late 2023 1st is going to look really nice in a couple years. If you could move those 2022 1sts into 2023 then it would look even better. Getting Claypool plus 4 2023 1sts is going to be huge.
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr

11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)

Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White

Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez

Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo

Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker

24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5

Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE

Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning

JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker

Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,

Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins


24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5

abloom
GOAT
GOAT
Posts: 11628
Joined: Tue Mar 06, 2018 9:33 am

Re: Struggling- Herbert for 4 1sts plus

Postby abloom » Mon Oct 18, 2021 5:20 am

Why don't you start by posting your league size, starting requirements, and your roster.

If this is a 10 team SF this is a snap accept. If it's 14+ teams it's probably a snap decline. 12 team I think it really depends on your outlook.
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01

Team #5 4th
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009

Team #6 orphan
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07

jwb32
Ring of Fame
Ring of Fame
Posts: 3827
Joined: Wed May 10, 2017 8:11 am

Re: Struggling- Herbert for 4 1sts plus

Postby jwb32 » Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:17 am

5 1sts???? As a rebuild (at 0-10!!!), you HAVE to take this. Rolling out Allen/Herbert each week is of no benefit if the rest of your team is trash. You cannot turn a team around making a single early pick each year. You need to be aggressive and shock your roster.
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09

TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04

TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
2022 1st, 2nd (2), 3rd (2)


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], Black Adam, Google [Bot], Peener, UsualSuspects and 82 guests