Saquon vs Zeke + Jacobs
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Saquon vs Zeke + Jacobs
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Re: Saquon vs Zeke + Jacobs
I still like Jacobs long term and think Zeke is elite for another couple years. Pricey but if you are worried about Zeke getting out with Barkley us not bad.
Re: Saquon vs Zeke + Jacobs
I like Barkley here, but can you squeeze a pick out of him?
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Re: Saquon vs Zeke + Jacobs
I haven't countered yet, but he only has a 2022 1st and 3rd. Doesn't have a 2nd. Doubt he would add the 1st and the 3rd doesn't do anything for me. Seem like Barkley is overvalued...aside for his rookie season when he ran for 1300 yards, he hasn't done much of anything but get hurt and look bad
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QB: Lawrence, Kyler Murray, O’Connell
RB: Gibbs, Etienne, Javonte Williams, Chase Brown
WR: London, Tank Dell, Pickens JSN, Michael Wilson, Quentin Johnston
TE: McBride, Dulcich
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RB: Gibbs, Etienne, Javonte Williams, Chase Brown
WR: London, Tank Dell, Pickens JSN, Michael Wilson, Quentin Johnston
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Re: Saquon vs Zeke + Jacobs
For a couple of reasons I don't like the deal for your team.
1) If you do it, your starting RBs will be the injury prone Barkley and the injury prone Mixon. And your only backup would be JRob who is on a short leash and in a timeshare that will probably tilt further and further out of his favor as the season goes on. The result is everything could go well and your RBs could lead you to a title run, or things could go less well and your RB squad tanks your team. With your current lineup, you still have the upside for "everything going right", but your downside is not nearly as steep.
2) I think there is more value in Zeke+Jacobs than Barkley.
Normally, I prefer 2-for-1 deals like this to get a clearly superior producer. I might be completely wrong about this, but I'm not convinced Saquon retains 100% of his spectacular ability. If I knew I was getting rookie Saquon, I'd do this deal. Because I think 2021 Saquon is likely to be a middle-of-the-pack RB1 instead of a T3RB in a tier clearly above other RB1s, I'd rather keep Zeke+Jacobs.
1) If you do it, your starting RBs will be the injury prone Barkley and the injury prone Mixon. And your only backup would be JRob who is on a short leash and in a timeshare that will probably tilt further and further out of his favor as the season goes on. The result is everything could go well and your RBs could lead you to a title run, or things could go less well and your RB squad tanks your team. With your current lineup, you still have the upside for "everything going right", but your downside is not nearly as steep.
2) I think there is more value in Zeke+Jacobs than Barkley.
Normally, I prefer 2-for-1 deals like this to get a clearly superior producer. I might be completely wrong about this, but I'm not convinced Saquon retains 100% of his spectacular ability. If I knew I was getting rookie Saquon, I'd do this deal. Because I think 2021 Saquon is likely to be a middle-of-the-pack RB1 instead of a T3RB in a tier clearly above other RB1s, I'd rather keep Zeke+Jacobs.
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WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
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Re: Saquon vs Zeke + Jacobs
Well put!Anteaters wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 3:32 am For a couple of reasons I don't like the deal for your team.
1) If you do it, your starting RBs will be the injury prone Barkley and the injury prone Mixon. And your only backup would be JRob who is on a short leash and in a timeshare that will probably tilt further and further out of his favor as the season goes on. The result is everything could go well and your RBs could lead you to a title run, or things could go less well and your RB squad tanks your team. With your current lineup, you still have the upside for "everything going right", but your downside is not nearly as steep.
2) I think there is more value in Zeke+Jacobs than Barkley.
Normally, I prefer 2-for-1 deals like this to get a clearly superior producer. I might be completely wrong about this, but I'm not convinced Saquon retains 100% of his spectacular ability. If I knew I was getting rookie Saquon, I'd do this deal. Because I think 2021 Saquon is likely to be a middle-of-the-pack RB1 instead of a T3RB in a tier clearly above other RB1s, I'd rather keep Zeke+Jacobs.
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Re: Saquon vs Zeke + Jacobs
I'd hold here. Zeke is a bit older, but should still produce. Saquon is getting older too. I'd keep the combo of depth and youth with Jacobs and Zeke.
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QB: K. Murray (3), T. Lance (4)
RB: S. Barkley (4), C. Edwards-Helaire (3+1), J. Jacobs (4), M. Davis (1), D. Henderson (1), AJ Dillon (3), Z. Moss (3), T. Pollard (2), T. Etienne (4)
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CB: K. Moore (2)
2022 picks: 1st, 3rd
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QB: K. Murray (3), T. Lance (4)
RB: S. Barkley (4), C. Edwards-Helaire (3+1), J. Jacobs (4), M. Davis (1), D. Henderson (1), AJ Dillon (3), Z. Moss (3), T. Pollard (2), T. Etienne (4)
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Re: Saquon vs Zeke + Jacobs
Zeke Jacob's for me pretty easily
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Re: Saquon vs Zeke + Jacobs
Not to pile on, but pulling on here. Surprised to see so much live for the zeke side but it's good to see Barkley's BDO come down to Earth a bit, reflecting his production and injury severity. A smell consideration, but a real one for a competing team, is if Barkley will even start the season healthy. Very possible he could miss a few weeks, and how much would that hurt you ?
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Re: Saquon vs Zeke + Jacobs
I was able to trade Barkley for Zeke and AG earlier this offseason. I was concerned with Barkley’s long term health after his injury last year and won it all without him last year and figured he was expendable as a result. I’m still on the fence if it was the right move because I’m usually the guy trading two players to get one but I see enough future upside in Gibson and current value in Zeke and enough potential future trouble with Barkley’s knee to think at least it was an equal move. I think it depends on how you feel about Saquon knee versus the return you get with jacobs and Zeke to determine if you can live with this trade in the future if Barkley comes back full strength. I was willing to risk it and made the trade but I can see why you would or wouldn’t accept this trade. I’d probably make the trade and I’m not even that high on jacobs but it seems like good value for you
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Re: Saquon vs Zeke + Jacobs
Agree with this. Especially considering it takes many athletes a year of play after their injury to return to peak performance. 2021 Barkley isn't likely to look like the player we'd expect to see.
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