TE Premium: Andrews for Carson/Diontae (updated)?

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TE Premium: Andrews for Carson/Diontae (updated)?

Postby mzkp54 » Thu Jul 01, 2021 5:38 am

Team 2 in sig. SF, PPR and 1.5 TE premium.

Would you trade Mark Andrews and a ‘23 2nd for Chris Carson and Deebo Samuel?

EDIT: Rejected and he countered with just Andrews for the pair.

EDIT 2: Newest offer is Andrews/'23 3rd for Carson/Diontae
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Re: TE Premium: Andrews/2nd or Carson/Deebo?

Postby Gator Sens » Thu Jul 01, 2021 5:43 am

With the slight premium I would lean holding Andrews despite the RB help. I think with injuries and age, this is the last year for Carson as a helpful contributor.

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Re: TE Premium: Andrews/2nd or Carson/Deebo?

Postby never_punts » Thu Jul 01, 2021 5:46 am

I don't care for the pieces you are getting back. A young TE who has shown tremendous upside should be worth more in that format.
Team #1: 12-Team - PPR - *SF* - 4pt Pass - IDP
25 Roster + 5 Taxi | QB, RB, 2-WR, TE, SFLX, 3-FLX | DL, LB, DB
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QB: Burrow - Lamar - Kyler
RB: Ekeler - Saquon - Gainwell
WR: Amon Ra - Hopkins - Godwin - K.Allen- QJ - Hollywood - Diontae - Shaheed- Wandale - Woods
TE: Kelce - Engram - Ferg - Chig
DL: Hunter | LB: Okereke | DB: Bynum
'24 Picks: Late 1st, Early 2nd, Late 2nd

Team #2: 12-Team - PPR - *SF* - 6pt Pass - TE Prem
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QB: Murray - Allen - Winston
RB: Cook - Saquon - Mattison - Hull
WR: Diontae - Tyreek - Lockett - Higgins - Chark - TMJ - Kirk - Dell
TE: Ertz - Engram - Mayer
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Re: TE Premium: Andrews/2nd or Carson/Deebo?

Postby mzkp54 » Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:29 am

He countered without the 2nd. Any more appealing?

Other consideration is that it is a contract league and all 3 players are on 1 year contracts so will have to pay to keep them after this year.
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WR- JJ, Lamb, ARSB, DJM, Kirk QJ
TE- Engram, Schultz
PK/CB-
DT- Wilkins, Vea
DE- Bosa, Young, Landry Ebukam
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Re: TE Premium: Andrews/2nd or Carson/Deebo?

Postby sloth8u » Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:50 am

Fair offer, but not a dynasty league trade that I would make. I expect penny to take over eventually and Deebo to be inconsistent. My feeling.... If your moving Andrews, there's got to be a better deal out there.

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Re: TE Premium: Andrews for Carson/Deebo?

Postby murphysxm » Thu Jul 01, 2021 7:17 am

This can not be the best package you can get for Andrews in a format that leans even slightly to a TE's advantage.
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Re: TE Premium: Andrews for Carson/Deebo?

Postby mzkp54 » Thu Jul 01, 2021 7:23 am

murphysxm wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 7:17 am This can not be the best package you can get for Andrews in a format that leans even slightly to a TE's advantage.

Haha well the last offer I got for him was Harrison Bryant and Philip Lindsay so you’d be surprised
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WR- JJ, Lamb, ARSB, DJM, Kirk QJ
TE- Engram, Schultz
PK/CB-
DT- Wilkins, Vea
DE- Bosa, Young, Landry Ebukam
LB- Campbell,Speed, Mcfadden, Dodson
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Re: TE Premium: Andrews/2nd or Carson/Deebo?

Postby sloth8u » Thu Jul 01, 2021 7:39 am

mzkp54 wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:29 am He countered without the 2nd. Any more appealing?

Other consideration is that it is a contract league and all 3 players are on 1 year contracts so will have to pay to keep them after this year.
If you don't plan on resigning Andrews...I think the package gives you a better chance for 1 yr, simply by adding depth for the yr. If the plan is/was to bring him back for a few yrs...I'd stick to the plan. Even if pitts hits, you can play both. I did that an awful lot with gronk/graham, kelce/ertz, and hoping to do so with hock/fant.

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Re: TE Premium: Andrews for Carson/Deebo?

Postby jwb32 » Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:37 am

I would pass. I like Deebo but his injury history scares me. And the end is near for Carson.
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
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RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
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Re: TE Premium: Andrews for Carson/Deebo?

Postby mzkp54 » Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:08 pm

Sorry one more- what do we think if he swapped in Diontae Johnson for Deebo?
12 tm/PPR/SF/TE+/Full IDP (start 11/11)/Contracts
QB- Kyler, TLaw Stafford
RB-
WR- JJ, Lamb, ARSB, DJM, Kirk QJ
TE- Engram, Schultz
PK/CB-
DT- Wilkins, Vea
DE- Bosa, Young, Landry Ebukam
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Re: TE Premium: Andrews for Carson/Diontae (updated)?

Postby HughHoney » Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:22 pm

DJ/Carson comfortably for me.

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Re: TE Premium: Andrews for Carson/Deebo?

Postby never_punts » Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:25 pm

mzkp54 wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:08 pm Sorry one more- what do we think if he swapped in Diontae Johnson for Deebo?
Andrews/'23 3rd for Carson/Diontae - this is much more fair and an offer that would get me very interested. I'd probably take that.
Team #1: 12-Team - PPR - *SF* - 4pt Pass - IDP
25 Roster + 5 Taxi | QB, RB, 2-WR, TE, SFLX, 3-FLX | DL, LB, DB
The Moore the Murray-er (2022 Champ 8-) )
QB: Burrow - Lamar - Kyler
RB: Ekeler - Saquon - Gainwell
WR: Amon Ra - Hopkins - Godwin - K.Allen- QJ - Hollywood - Diontae - Shaheed- Wandale - Woods
TE: Kelce - Engram - Ferg - Chig
DL: Hunter | LB: Okereke | DB: Bynum
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QB: Murray - Allen - Winston
RB: Cook - Saquon - Mattison - Hull
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TE: Ertz - Engram - Mayer
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Re: TE Premium: Andrews for Carson/Diontae (updated)?

Postby Needalife » Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:26 pm

I would take Carson/Diontae but not the Deebo one. Also, I would try and grab Hurst on the cheap in case Pitts gets injured. Your team is too good not to have that insurance because losing Andrews leaves you thin at TE. Logan Thomas could repeat but he also has a new QB which adds uncertainty. Roster is too strong not to tie up those loose ends.
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WR: Michael Pittman, Puka Nacua, Drake London, Christian Kirk, Josh Palmer
TE: Trey McBride, Jake Ferguson, Noah Gray
PK: Justin Tucker, Jason Myers
DT: Grover Stewart, Devonte Wyatt
DE: Alex Highsmith, Jonathan Cooper, Gregory Rousseau, Matt Judon, Baron Browning
LB: Fred Warner, Dre Greenlaw, Ernest Jones, Alex Anzalone, Jack Campbell
CB: L'Jarius Sneed, Deommodore Lenoir, Taron Johnson
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