Team 1 in sig. Last year's champ is thinking about blowing it up and he sent me over this offer to get back his first with a few others on top. With Kamara and Evans I think my team becomes very strong; obviously not having a QB3 once Cam loses his job is not ideal and TE is a bit lackluster, but it's .5 PPR with no TE premium so RBs and QBs are king anyway.
Give: 1.06, 1.11, 2 22 1sts (mine and his)
Get: Kamara, M. Evans
Kamara + Evans or picks?
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Kamara + Evans or picks?
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12 tm SF .5 PPR QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, 2FLX, SF
QB - J. Fields, Dak, Russ, Love
RB - ETN, D. Cook, D. Swift, B. Robinson, R. Penny, K. Miller, G. Edwards
WR - G. Wilson, T. Higgins, JSN, D. Samuel, DJM, G. Davis, R. Moore, W. Robinson, M. Wilson
TE - Schultz, Irv, C. Kmet, Everett
2024: 1st, 3rd, 4th
2025: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th
12 tm SF .5 PPR QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, 2FLX, SF
QB - J. Fields, Dak, Russ, Love
RB - ETN, D. Cook, D. Swift, B. Robinson, R. Penny, K. Miller, G. Edwards
WR - G. Wilson, T. Higgins, JSN, D. Samuel, DJM, G. Davis, R. Moore, W. Robinson, M. Wilson
TE - Schultz, Irv, C. Kmet, Everett
2024: 1st, 3rd, 4th
2025: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th
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Re: Kamara + Evans or picks?
Fair price if this puts you over the top. Pricey if not, but picks are never a guarantee to hit. Do you think you are a legit contender?
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Re: Kamara + Evans or picks?
I think it would put me in the top two. The problem is that the other guy has JT/Akers/Chubb/CEH at RB, and JJeff/Terry/Ridley/Cooper at WR. His QBs are weak depending on how long Watson gets suspended though with DD/Cousins/Carr and he's got Engram at TE. Plus he has 1.02 and 1.07 and 2.01 so he's gonna add on additional really good pieces. So I'm torn between trying to open a window and going toe to toe with him now or getting picks and hoping they pan out and playing more of the long game.
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12 tm SF .5 PPR QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, 2FLX, SF
QB - J. Fields, Dak, Russ, Love
RB - ETN, D. Cook, D. Swift, B. Robinson, R. Penny, K. Miller, G. Edwards
WR - G. Wilson, T. Higgins, JSN, D. Samuel, DJM, G. Davis, R. Moore, W. Robinson, M. Wilson
TE - Schultz, Irv, C. Kmet, Everett
2024: 1st, 3rd, 4th
2025: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th
12 tm SF .5 PPR QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, 2FLX, SF
QB - J. Fields, Dak, Russ, Love
RB - ETN, D. Cook, D. Swift, B. Robinson, R. Penny, K. Miller, G. Edwards
WR - G. Wilson, T. Higgins, JSN, D. Samuel, DJM, G. Davis, R. Moore, W. Robinson, M. Wilson
TE - Schultz, Irv, C. Kmet, Everett
2024: 1st, 3rd, 4th
2025: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th
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Re: Kamara + Evans or picks?
That's a rich price to pay In SF for two aging assets, even for a contender. Kamara is a super stud, and probably retains some of that value, but you're moving assets guaranteed to appreciate for assets almost guaranteed to depreciate. I'm afraid this deal looks very bad in a few Months if you don't win the whole thing. It's not a bad deal on paper but I just don't think I could do it unless kamara was *THE* missing piece that gives me 99% chance at a title
You can get Mike Evans level production for much cheaper. Maybe you can give 2 1sts for AK and look elsewhere for a wr2?
You can get Mike Evans level production for much cheaper. Maybe you can give 2 1sts for AK and look elsewhere for a wr2?
Team #1: 12-Team - PPR - *SF* - 4pt Pass - IDP
25 Roster + 5 Taxi | QB, RB, 2-WR, TE, SFLX, 3-FLX | DL, LB, DB
The Moore the Murray-er (2022 Champ )
QB: Burrow - Lamar - Kyler
RB: Ekeler - Saquon - Gainwell
WR: Amon Ra - Hopkins - Godwin - K.Allen- QJ - Hollywood - Diontae - Shaheed- Wandale - Woods
TE: Kelce - Engram - Ferg - Chig
DL: Hunter | LB: Okereke | DB: Bynum
'24 Picks: Late 1st, Early 2nd, Late 2nd
Team #2: 12-Team - PPR - *SF* - 6pt Pass - TE Prem
25 Roster + 5 Taxi | QB, RB, 2-WR, TE, SFLX, 3-FLX
Team #2 (0-0)
QB: Murray - Allen - Winston
RB: Cook - Saquon - Mattison - Hull
WR: Diontae - Tyreek - Lockett - Higgins - Chark - TMJ - Kirk - Dell
TE: Ertz - Engram - Mayer
'24 Picks: My 1st, 2nd, and 3rd
25 Roster + 5 Taxi | QB, RB, 2-WR, TE, SFLX, 3-FLX | DL, LB, DB
The Moore the Murray-er (2022 Champ )
QB: Burrow - Lamar - Kyler
RB: Ekeler - Saquon - Gainwell
WR: Amon Ra - Hopkins - Godwin - K.Allen- QJ - Hollywood - Diontae - Shaheed- Wandale - Woods
TE: Kelce - Engram - Ferg - Chig
DL: Hunter | LB: Okereke | DB: Bynum
'24 Picks: Late 1st, Early 2nd, Late 2nd
Team #2: 12-Team - PPR - *SF* - 6pt Pass - TE Prem
25 Roster + 5 Taxi | QB, RB, 2-WR, TE, SFLX, 3-FLX
Team #2 (0-0)
QB: Murray - Allen - Winston
RB: Cook - Saquon - Mattison - Hull
WR: Diontae - Tyreek - Lockett - Higgins - Chark - TMJ - Kirk - Dell
TE: Ertz - Engram - Mayer
'24 Picks: My 1st, 2nd, and 3rd
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Re: Kamara + Evans or picks?
Yeah that makes a lot of sense. I went back with 1.06 and his 22 1st for Kamara and he shot me down so I guess I'll just hang on and develop through the draft like I originally planned on unless something else comes along.never_punts wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 6:48 pm That's a rich price to pay In SF for two aging assets, even for a contender. Kamara is a super stud, and probably retains some of that value, but you're moving assets guaranteed to appreciate for assets almost guaranteed to depreciate. I'm afraid this deal looks very bad in a few Months if you don't win the whole thing. It's not a bad deal on paper but I just don't think I could do it unless kamara was *THE* missing piece that gives me 99% chance at a title
You can get Mike Evans level production for much cheaper. Maybe you can give 2 1sts for AK and look elsewhere for a wr2?
#1
12 tm SF .5 PPR QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, 2FLX, SF
QB - J. Fields, Dak, Russ, Love
RB - ETN, D. Cook, D. Swift, B. Robinson, R. Penny, K. Miller, G. Edwards
WR - G. Wilson, T. Higgins, JSN, D. Samuel, DJM, G. Davis, R. Moore, W. Robinson, M. Wilson
TE - Schultz, Irv, C. Kmet, Everett
2024: 1st, 3rd, 4th
2025: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th
12 tm SF .5 PPR QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, 2FLX, SF
QB - J. Fields, Dak, Russ, Love
RB - ETN, D. Cook, D. Swift, B. Robinson, R. Penny, K. Miller, G. Edwards
WR - G. Wilson, T. Higgins, JSN, D. Samuel, DJM, G. Davis, R. Moore, W. Robinson, M. Wilson
TE - Schultz, Irv, C. Kmet, Everett
2024: 1st, 3rd, 4th
2025: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th
Re: Kamara + Evans or picks?
Kamara side
TEAM 1
12 Team Half PPR Superflex ..1Qb , 2Rb, 3Wr,1 Te, 2Flex 1Superflex 1Def
QBs: Dak,Goff, Burrow
RBS: Bijan,Pacheco,D.Harris,Fournette,GibsonDillon,Penny, Darell Williams,Chestnut,Ty Chandler,M
Ingram, Goodson, K.Ingram
WR:Lamb,Tee,DJM,AJB, Boyd
TE Goedert,
DEF Eagles, Broncos,
12 Team Half PPR Superflex ..1Qb , 2Rb, 3Wr,1 Te, 2Flex 1Superflex 1Def
QBs: Dak,Goff, Burrow
RBS: Bijan,Pacheco,D.Harris,Fournette,GibsonDillon,Penny, Darell Williams,Chestnut,Ty Chandler,M
Ingram, Goodson, K.Ingram
WR:Lamb,Tee,DJM,AJB, Boyd
TE Goedert,
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Re: Kamara + Evans or picks?
I would gladly trade the picks if those players made me a sure fire favorite for a 2021 championship. But even then there is risk…that’s a big price.
Re: Kamara + Evans or picks?
That risk is too great. If you don’t win this year, you’ve eliminated your top draft capital typically used to retool. I don’t see your WR corps as strong enough to make this kind of an all-in move. I would hold and make your picks this year. Then you can see how your roster develops over the season with those two 1sts in your pocket. That 1.06 will be valuable with this draft class.
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12-team, PPR 25 roster 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1(RB/WR/TE), 1 D/ST
QB J. Burrow, A. Richardson
RB J. Taylor, D. Henry, M. Sanders, B. Hall, T. Sermon, C. Patterson, P. Strong, K. Ingram, TDP, D. Achane, K. Miller, R. Johnson
WR AJ Brown, C. Ridley, J. Chase, C. Lamb, JSN, G. Pickens, K. Osborn, J. Meyers, A. Pierce, T. Scott
TE T. Kelce, D. Goedert, G. Dulcich, J. Woods
D/ST MIN, PIT, DEN
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QB J. Burrow, A. Richardson, J. Winston, S. Howell
RB J. Mixon, E. Elliott, N. Chubb, J. Kelley, K. Harris, J. Ford
WR D. Hopkins, C. Godwin, T. Higgins, C. Ridley, J. Smith-Njigba, J. Mingo
TE T. Kelce, K. Pitts, Z. Ertz, D. Goedert, J. Ferguson
DB R. Grant, J. Simmons
DL D. Hunter, A. Highsmith, S. Hubbard
LB C. Mosley, A. Singleton, P. Queen, D. Deablo
12-team, PPR 25 roster 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1(RB/WR/TE), 1 D/ST
QB J. Burrow, A. Richardson
RB J. Taylor, D. Henry, M. Sanders, B. Hall, T. Sermon, C. Patterson, P. Strong, K. Ingram, TDP, D. Achane, K. Miller, R. Johnson
WR AJ Brown, C. Ridley, J. Chase, C. Lamb, JSN, G. Pickens, K. Osborn, J. Meyers, A. Pierce, T. Scott
TE T. Kelce, D. Goedert, G. Dulcich, J. Woods
D/ST MIN, PIT, DEN
Panthers
12-team SF, .5 PPR 35 roster: 1QB, 1SF, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FLEX, 2DB, 2LB, 2DL, 1FLEX
QB J. Burrow, A. Richardson, J. Winston, S. Howell
RB J. Mixon, E. Elliott, N. Chubb, J. Kelley, K. Harris, J. Ford
WR D. Hopkins, C. Godwin, T. Higgins, C. Ridley, J. Smith-Njigba, J. Mingo
TE T. Kelce, K. Pitts, Z. Ertz, D. Goedert, J. Ferguson
DB R. Grant, J. Simmons
DL D. Hunter, A. Highsmith, S. Hubbard
LB C. Mosley, A. Singleton, P. Queen, D. Deablo
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Re: Kamara + Evans or picks?
Go win it. Take a risk blah blah blah appreciating v. depreciating blah blah blah, how about if you hold those picks and dont win it this year or next or in three. Kamara and evans could help a contender for a few years. You could regret not doing this in 4 years when you have a second place finish, a third and miss the playoffs. Go get em!
Team 1 -10 Team 1pt ppr. START 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 2 RB/WR/TE 1LB 1 S/CB 1DL 1DFLEX
QB.-Brady, Stafford, Garoppolo, Ridder
RB.-Chubb, Kamara, Fournette, K Hunt, Z White,
WR.- Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Keenan Allen, DJ Moore, Diontae Johnson, B Cooks, MVS, Thielen, Marvin Jones, Zay Jones, Skowronek, Velus Jones
TE.- Hurst, Conklin, Schultz, Taysom Hill
K.-Carlson
LB.- Brooks, Loyd
S/CB.- Love, Neal
DL.-Hunter,Hubbard
Picks
23 2 3rds
24 1 3rd
Team 2 - 10 Team 1pt ppr. START 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 2 RB/WR/TE 1LB 1 S/CB 1DL 1DFLEX
QB- Goff, Stafford
Rb - Taylor ,Harris, Montgomery, Eno Benjamin, J Warren, Burkhead, Jeff Wilson, Brian Robinson, Spiller, C Evans
Wr- AJ Brown, Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, Mike Williams, Jameson Williams, Lazzard, D Carter, M Jones, J Reynolds, B Cooks, DJ Chark, Calvin Austin, D Bell
TE - Kittle, Higbee, Schultz
K- McPherson
LB - Brooks, Okereke, TJ Watt
DL- M Garrett, Cam Jordan
S- C Gardner Johnson, Fitzpatrick.
Picks 1 23 3rd, 1 24 3rd.
QB.-Brady, Stafford, Garoppolo, Ridder
RB.-Chubb, Kamara, Fournette, K Hunt, Z White,
WR.- Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Keenan Allen, DJ Moore, Diontae Johnson, B Cooks, MVS, Thielen, Marvin Jones, Zay Jones, Skowronek, Velus Jones
TE.- Hurst, Conklin, Schultz, Taysom Hill
K.-Carlson
LB.- Brooks, Loyd
S/CB.- Love, Neal
DL.-Hunter,Hubbard
Picks
23 2 3rds
24 1 3rd
Team 2 - 10 Team 1pt ppr. START 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 2 RB/WR/TE 1LB 1 S/CB 1DL 1DFLEX
QB- Goff, Stafford
Rb - Taylor ,Harris, Montgomery, Eno Benjamin, J Warren, Burkhead, Jeff Wilson, Brian Robinson, Spiller, C Evans
Wr- AJ Brown, Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, Mike Williams, Jameson Williams, Lazzard, D Carter, M Jones, J Reynolds, B Cooks, DJ Chark, Calvin Austin, D Bell
TE - Kittle, Higbee, Schultz
K- McPherson
LB - Brooks, Okereke, TJ Watt
DL- M Garrett, Cam Jordan
S- C Gardner Johnson, Fitzpatrick.
Picks 1 23 3rd, 1 24 3rd.
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