trading for a RB Harris/Williams/Jacobs

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trading for a RB Harris/Williams/Jacobs

Postby RheinlandChief » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:59 am

Hello again,

I'm still looking for RB help for my team (the one in the sig) but with this big rosters it's hard.
Now one guy in my League would be willing to trade one of his RB because he has a good RB-Squad and could deal with one less.
He has: Elliott, Najee Harris, Josh Jacobs, Javonte Williams as the interesting ones. Besides that Hines/Gurley/L.Murray.

He is a contender (I'm not really) and his biggest needs are TE and QB.
Want to keep my QB but I could help with the other need. But what deal would be good for one of the RB?

First thought was maybe a 1-1 trade Waller vs. Jacobs? Or should I go for Harris/Williams?

He is a Cowboys-Fan and some time ago he asked for Parsons, but I wanted to keep him.
Beside players: he has no picks in the next draft in Round 1-3. I have all and also his 2nd-Rounder.

thanks in advance
16-team Dynasty, 40 Roster, Half-PPR + IDP (QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, W/R, DEF, K, IDP, 2DL, 2LB, 2DB)
QB: Mahomes
RB: Achane, Warren, Spears, McLaughlin, Brown,
WR: DJM, Jeudy, London, Pickens, Downs, Meyers, W. Robinson, Samuel, Tucker
TE: LaPorta, Pitts, Okonkwo, Otton
K: McLaughlin
DEF: Patriots, Bengals
DL: Garrett, Crosby, Hutchinson, Chase Young, J. Bosa, Tuipulotu
LB: Parsons, Bolton, Lloyd, Campbell, Byron Young
DB: Winfield, Pitre, Hufanga, Bland

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Re: trading for a RB Harris/Williams/Jacobs

Postby Gator Sens » Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:46 am

Jacobs and J. Williams hold the most value long term, but I would want something on top to move Waller either way. Jacobs took a big hit and Williams is unknown.

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Re: trading for a RB Harris/Williams/Jacobs

Postby never_punts » Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:48 am

Waller > Jacobs, I would not want to make that move

I'd be looking at Williams, unless you are determined to compete right away this year. His price will be the most reasonable and will be more in line with what I think his true value is and he projects as a 3-down workhorse in '22, if not sooner.
Team #1: 12-Team - PPR - *SF* - 4pt Pass - IDP
25 Roster + 5 Taxi | QB, RB, 2-WR, TE, SFLX, 3-FLX | DL, LB, DB
The Moore the Murray-er (2022 Champ 8-) )
QB: Burrow - Lamar - Kyler
RB: Ekeler - Saquon - Gainwell
WR: Amon Ra - Hopkins - Godwin - K.Allen- QJ - Hollywood - Diontae - Shaheed- Wandale - Woods
TE: Kelce - Engram - Ferg - Chig
DL: Hunter | LB: Okereke | DB: Bynum
'24 Picks: Late 1st, Early 2nd, Late 2nd

Team #2: 12-Team - PPR - *SF* - 6pt Pass - TE Prem
25 Roster + 5 Taxi | QB, RB, 2-WR, TE, SFLX, 3-FLX
Team #2 (0-0)
QB: Murray - Allen - Winston
RB: Cook - Saquon - Mattison - Hull
WR: Diontae - Tyreek - Lockett - Higgins - Chark - TMJ - Kirk - Dell
TE: Ertz - Engram - Mayer
'24 Picks: My 1st, 2nd, and 3rd

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Re: trading for a RB Harris/Williams/Jacobs

Postby RheinlandChief » Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:03 pm

no I'm not determined to compete this year. Williams and Jacobs were my favourite targets.

So what about a trade of Waller vs. Williams and Shenault. He has him on the trade block and I like him.
Would that be too much to demand?
16-team Dynasty, 40 Roster, Half-PPR + IDP (QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, W/R, DEF, K, IDP, 2DL, 2LB, 2DB)
QB: Mahomes
RB: Achane, Warren, Spears, McLaughlin, Brown,
WR: DJM, Jeudy, London, Pickens, Downs, Meyers, W. Robinson, Samuel, Tucker
TE: LaPorta, Pitts, Okonkwo, Otton
K: McLaughlin
DEF: Patriots, Bengals
DL: Garrett, Crosby, Hutchinson, Chase Young, J. Bosa, Tuipulotu
LB: Parsons, Bolton, Lloyd, Campbell, Byron Young
DB: Winfield, Pitre, Hufanga, Bland

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Re: trading for a RB Harris/Williams/Jacobs

Postby Gator Sens » Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:11 pm

RheinlandChief wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:03 pm no I'm not determined to compete this year. Williams and Jacobs were my favourite targets.

So what about a trade of Waller vs. Williams and Shenault. He has him on the trade block and I like him.
Would that be too much to demand?
Williams and Shenault is solid value long term and a fair ask for the second best TE in fantasy. Waller is known and Williams and Shenault are both gambles.

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Re: trading for a RB Harris/Williams/Jacobs

Postby never_punts » Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:15 pm

RheinlandChief wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:03 pm no I'm not determined to compete this year. Williams and Jacobs were my favourite targets.

So what about a trade of Waller vs. Williams and Shenault. He has him on the trade block and I like him.
Would that be too much to demand?
I usually hate to gamble with a stud like Waller. You're trading a known for two unknowns. With that said, once JW hits the field his value will = or surpass Waller soon after. I think it's a fair return if you're willing to take a risk that the two guys coming back could bust. Because this time next year it may look like you traded an aging TE for a dynasty RB1 and a 's stud WR2 paired with Lawrence. It's definitely a fair deal on paper considering all we know right now.
Team #1: 12-Team - PPR - *SF* - 4pt Pass - IDP
25 Roster + 5 Taxi | QB, RB, 2-WR, TE, SFLX, 3-FLX | DL, LB, DB
The Moore the Murray-er (2022 Champ 8-) )
QB: Burrow - Lamar - Kyler
RB: Ekeler - Saquon - Gainwell
WR: Amon Ra - Hopkins - Godwin - K.Allen- QJ - Hollywood - Diontae - Shaheed- Wandale - Woods
TE: Kelce - Engram - Ferg - Chig
DL: Hunter | LB: Okereke | DB: Bynum
'24 Picks: Late 1st, Early 2nd, Late 2nd

Team #2: 12-Team - PPR - *SF* - 6pt Pass - TE Prem
25 Roster + 5 Taxi | QB, RB, 2-WR, TE, SFLX, 3-FLX
Team #2 (0-0)
QB: Murray - Allen - Winston
RB: Cook - Saquon - Mattison - Hull
WR: Diontae - Tyreek - Lockett - Higgins - Chark - TMJ - Kirk - Dell
TE: Ertz - Engram - Mayer
'24 Picks: My 1st, 2nd, and 3rd

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Re: trading for a RB Harris/Williams/Jacobs

Postby RheinlandChief » Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:19 pm

yeah it feels wrong to give Waller away and i would love to go into the season with both Waller and Pitts... but seeing my team, I think its the best way to get help.
And yes, it is a risk but both players can be become really good.
16-team Dynasty, 40 Roster, Half-PPR + IDP (QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, W/R, DEF, K, IDP, 2DL, 2LB, 2DB)
QB: Mahomes
RB: Achane, Warren, Spears, McLaughlin, Brown,
WR: DJM, Jeudy, London, Pickens, Downs, Meyers, W. Robinson, Samuel, Tucker
TE: LaPorta, Pitts, Okonkwo, Otton
K: McLaughlin
DEF: Patriots, Bengals
DL: Garrett, Crosby, Hutchinson, Chase Young, J. Bosa, Tuipulotu
LB: Parsons, Bolton, Lloyd, Campbell, Byron Young
DB: Winfield, Pitre, Hufanga, Bland

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Re: trading for a RB Harris/Williams/Jacobs

Postby bennythedog93 » Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:55 pm

I like that offer.
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RB - Chubb, Javonte, Perine, Jaleel, BRob, Moss, Bigsby, RoJo (Chi), Tucker, C-Rod, Chase, Spiller, Zamir
WR - Addison, Godwin, Nico, Gabe, Zay Jones, Mooney, Hyatt, Tillman
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QB - Jimmy G(*16), Purdy(*9), Stafford(12)
RB - D-Mont, AJ Dillon, Lenny(17), Carter (19), D’Onta(9), P Taylor
WR - JJeff(3), Adams(*4), Godwin(*8), MWill(*5), OBJ(*13), Woods, Hyatt(10), Tillman(18)
TE - PatF(6), Mayer(10)
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Re: trading for a RB Harris/Williams/Jacobs

Postby RheinlandChief » Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:41 am

Ok, news here:
The tradepartner is still considering but doesn't want to give away to much. He said just Williams vs. Waller but I declined that (of course).
He is high on Pitts and wants him in trade vs. J.Williams/Shenault.
But I don't know. Is this fair? In general I want to hold Pitts. Maybe he goes to J.Williams/Jeudy for Pitts.
16-team Dynasty, 40 Roster, Half-PPR + IDP (QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, W/R, DEF, K, IDP, 2DL, 2LB, 2DB)
QB: Mahomes
RB: Achane, Warren, Spears, McLaughlin, Brown,
WR: DJM, Jeudy, London, Pickens, Downs, Meyers, W. Robinson, Samuel, Tucker
TE: LaPorta, Pitts, Okonkwo, Otton
K: McLaughlin
DEF: Patriots, Bengals
DL: Garrett, Crosby, Hutchinson, Chase Young, J. Bosa, Tuipulotu
LB: Parsons, Bolton, Lloyd, Campbell, Byron Young
DB: Winfield, Pitre, Hufanga, Bland

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Re: trading for a RB Harris/Williams/Jacobs

Postby tsarpepe » Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:28 am

If you're not ready to compete, Pitts is the kind of player that you hold on to. But I would trade him for Javonte + Jeudy instantly.

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Re: trading for a RB Harris/Williams/Jacobs

Postby The.Big.Spank » Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:01 am

If you are not going to compete I think RB's are a waste to pursue. I would not trade Javonte + Jeudy for him.

Javonte is a dime a dozen RB in a RBBC. Jeudy has struggled with drops for a couple of years and has a crappy qb and lots of top tier competition and there is a new major stud WR every year, usually more than one.

Pitts, if he is what we think he is, is generational. Jeudy is good, but he is no Calvin, Julio, AJ. Javonte might just stink. He only has one year of production and that was on limited carries.

Just be patient and continue to gather WR/TE/QB talent and then get the RB.
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WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer

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QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
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Re: trading for a RB Harris/Williams/Jacobs

Postby tsarpepe » Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:15 pm

The.Big.Spank wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:01 am Javonte might just stink. He only has one year of production and that was on limited carries.
I don't get the logic here... Why are Javonte and Jeudy more likely to fail than Pitts?

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Re: trading for a RB Harris/Williams/Jacobs

Postby Zhoward88 » Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:50 pm

The.Big.Spank wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:01 am If you are not going to compete I think RB's are a waste to pursue. I would not trade Javonte + Jeudy for him.

Javonte is a dime a dozen RB in a RBBC. Jeudy has struggled with drops for a couple of years and has a crappy qb and lots of top tier competition and there is a new major stud WR every year, usually more than one.

Pitts, if he is what we think he is, is generational. Jeudy is good, but he is no Calvin, Julio, AJ. Javonte might just stink. He only has one year of production and that was on limited carries.

Just be patient and continue to gather WR/TE/QB talent and then get the RB.
J Williams is a dime a dozen in RBBC???
Jeudy has struggled with drops for years???
IF Pitts is what we think he is???

What is going on here?? Jeudy will likely be very good for years, gets crapped on for whatever reason. Williams is solid, tough and decent capital and behind Gordon...not sure that equates to dime a dozen. This just all seems bad when you too it off by assuming Pitts pans out hahahaha
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Re: trading for a RB Harris/Williams/Jacobs

Postby Finfansteve » Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:21 pm

If I were you and not a contender as you claim in one of your posts I’d start collecting young talent with running backs being the last pieces you collect to complete your team as their careers are the shortest and you have the smallest window of opportunity with them. Build the other positions up on your team and keep Pitts as he’s the kind of player you can possibly build a team around. You do need to trade Waller for something because by the time your team becomes good he’ll be older and you can jump start your build by trading him now. I’d trade him for either high picks or young wr(s) that haven’t broken out yet and keep building your team. It’s gonna take 2-3 years but it’ll be worth it. But don’t trade Waller for anything. He’s quite valuable to a contender and could possibly be the final piece that owner needs to make a run for it this year and/or next. Don’t give such a valuable piece away be smart with him and capitalize on his value to one of the many teams that can use him
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Re: trading for a RB Harris/Williams/Jacobs

Postby tsarpepe » Fri Jun 18, 2021 2:38 pm

Finfansteve wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:21 pm But don’t trade Waller for anything. He’s quite valuable to a contender and could possibly be the final piece that owner needs to make a run for it this year and/or next. Don’t give such a valuable piece away be smart with him and capitalize on his value to one of the many teams that can use him
^ this. Don't trade Waller during the offseason.


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