Ja'Marr Chase Hype

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Re: Ja'Marr Chase Hype

Postby StripesOfKC » Tue May 18, 2021 12:55 pm

Zhoward88 wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 6:00 am
ItsHandsomeDave wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 5:20 am I may be mistaken but I think he is the first consensus WR1 on every teams draft board since Calvin Johnson? Can’t remember where I heard it or read it. Now that might also be an indication of a weaker class if it’s true, but I think given his record and measureables it’s hard to argue with those who are targetting him.
So much that the Dolphins traded back and claimed waddle as their top WR???
In that case the Dolphins are either lying or stupid

I'd bet on the former

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Re: Ja'Marr Chase Hype

Postby ItsHandsomeDave » Tue May 18, 2021 4:54 pm

Zhoward88 wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 6:00 am
ItsHandsomeDave wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 5:20 am I may be mistaken but I think he is the first consensus WR1 on every teams draft board since Calvin Johnson? Can’t remember where I heard it or read it. Now that might also be an indication of a weaker class if it’s true, but I think given his record and measureables it’s hard to argue with those who are targetting him.
So much that the Dolphins traded back and claimed waddle as their top WR???
And then tried to trade up when they heard that Bengals were targeting Chase

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Re: Ja'Marr Chase Hype

Postby pandabears » Tue May 18, 2021 9:01 pm

Zhoward88 wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 6:00 am
ItsHandsomeDave wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 5:20 am I may be mistaken but I think he is the first consensus WR1 on every teams draft board since Calvin Johnson? Can’t remember where I heard it or read it. Now that might also be an indication of a weaker class if it’s true, but I think given his record and measureables it’s hard to argue with those who are targetting him.
So much that the Dolphins traded back and claimed waddle as their top WR???
Dolphins would have preferred Chase and probably thought they would get him but were happy with Waddle as consolation.
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Re: Ja'Marr Chase Hype

Postby bridger32 » Wed May 19, 2021 12:32 pm

I took Chase at 1.06 in my SF Rookie draft and am THRILLED! I think he should be a top 10 WR by next year. Hype might be a bit high now, but he will get there.
Team 1 - 12 Team SuperFlex TE Prem

QB: Lamar, A-Rich
RB: CMC, Swift, CEH, Dobbins :(
WR: Ceedee, Chase, A.J. Brown, K.J. Hamler, Van Jefferson
TE: Engram, Njoku, Logan Thomas

2024 Picks: 1.04, 3rd, 4th, 4th
2025 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th

Team 2 - 16 Team .5 PPR $200 Salary/Keeper League

QB: Allen ($46B) Fields ($15C)
RB: Brece Hall (15C), Kamara (55B), Montgomery ($15DE), Swift ($15BF)
WR: Ceedee ($20BF), Amon-Ra ($10C), Godwin ($6EF), Hollywood ($20CD), Bateman ($15C)
TE: Evan Engram ($1C), Isah Likely ($1B)

2024 Picks: 2nd (32nd pick), 3rd (48th pick)
2025 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd

Team 3 - 12 Team SuperFlex TE Prem

QB: Hurts, Herbert, Jimmy G
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, Montgomery, Mattison, Dobbins :(
WR: Deebo, Aiyuk, Addison, Dotson, Diontae Johnson, Bateman
TE: Engram, Henry, Kraft, Likely

2024 Picks: 2024 1.04, 2.08, 5.08
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Re: Ja'Marr Chase Hype

Postby murphysxm » Wed May 19, 2021 12:47 pm

I have an offer out in every league for the 1.02. Had a Reagor and 1.04 rejected. I will keep trying
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Re: Ja'Marr Chase Hype

Postby Anteaters » Wed May 19, 2021 12:51 pm

murphysxm wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 12:47 pm I have an offer out in every league for the 1.02. Had a Reagor and 1.04 rejected. I will keep trying
I would have rejected that too. In fact, if you want to me to take Reagor, you'd have to add the 1.02 to Reagor to get my 1.04.

Bonus question: Which is stronger, the Chase Hype or the Reagor Hate?
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WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
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Re: Ja'Marr Chase Hype

Postby MyTeam » Wed May 19, 2021 12:53 pm

bridger32 wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 12:32 pm I took Chase at 1.06 in my SF Rookie draft and am THRILLED! I think he should be a top 10 WR by next year. Hype might be a bit high now, but he will get there.
He is already a top 10 dynasty WR
Team 1: 12 team, PPR
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex

Mahomes, Lawrence
Najee, Swift, Javonte, Jamaal W, Murray
DK, DJM, Juju, Jameson, Gallup, Van
Pitts, Friermuth
1.01, 1.04, 1.11, 1.12, 3.10, 2 firsts next year

Team 2: 12 Team, SF TEP (1.5 PPR)
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex, 1 SF

Mahomes, Burrow, Cousins, Rudolph
CEH, Swift, Gibson, Jacobs, Mattison, Scott, McFarland
DK, AJB, Ridley, McLaurin, Kupp, Landry, Mims, Hamler, Miller, Johnson, Robinson
Andrews, H. Henry, Sternberger, Alie-Cox, Herndon

Same as Team 2
Watson, Burrow, Lance, Z. Wilson
Pollard, Mattison
Chase, D. Smith, Boyd, Hardman, E. Moore, Cephus, A. Rodgers, Harry, Boykin, A. Tate, Miller
Hockenson, Thomas, Albert O, Njoku
3 additional firsts

Same as Team 2
TLaw, Burrow, Watson, Darnold
CEH, Gus, Cohen
Juju, Chark, Shenault, Boyd, Landry, Renfrow, Robinson,
Engram, Kmet, Firkser, Schultz, Arnold, Herndon
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Re: Ja'Marr Chase Hype

Postby murphysxm » Wed May 19, 2021 12:54 pm

Anteaters wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 12:51 pm
murphysxm wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 12:47 pm I have an offer out in every league for the 1.02. Had a Reagor and 1.04 rejected. I will keep trying
I would have rejected that too. In fact, if you want to me to take Reagor, you'd have to add the 1.02 to Reagor to get my 1.04.

Bonus question: Which is strong, the Chase Hype or the Reagor Hate?
That my friend is a coin flip
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Re: Ja'Marr Chase Hype

Postby CGW » Wed May 19, 2021 12:59 pm

I may find out if the hype is real when I take him as my wr2 to join his old teammate jj in a startup. Risk on.

This guy is good though. Had he not sat out there would be no question at all.

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Re: Ja'Marr Chase Hype

Postby MaddMadden » Wed May 19, 2021 1:18 pm

murphysxm wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 12:47 pm I have an offer out in every league for the 1.02. Had a Reagor and 1.04 rejected. I will keep trying
I was getting destroyed for a couple of trades I made in a SF rebuild. Owned 1.04, but Lance fell and I wanted Chase:

SEND: Cousins, TB12, 1.04 (Lance), Goedert, 2.04, 4.04
RECEIVE: Tua, Baker, 1.06 (Chase), Jonnu Smith, DeVante Parker

(Note: Goedert was my TE2 behind Andrews)

Chase was my guy. I traded back to take him, downgraded my TE2, threw in a couple picks, added depth at WR and got much younger at QB. If you're taking Chase 1.02 I feel a lot better about the value I got.
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2022 picks: 1st, 3rd
2023 picks: 2 1st, 2 2nd, 3 3rd, 2 4ths

Players under contracts 2021 (years)
QB: K. Murray (3), T. Lance (4)
RB: S. Barkley (4), C. Edwards-Helaire (3+1), J. Jacobs (4), M. Davis (1), D. Henderson (1), AJ Dillon (3), Z. Moss (3), T. Pollard (2), T. Etienne (4)
WR: DK Metcalf (2), C. Ridley (2), T. McLaurin (2), J. Chase (4), R. Bateman (4), E. Moore (4), R. Moore (4), J. Reagor (3), B. Edwards (3), KJ Hamler (3)
TE: G. Kittle (3), A. Trautman (3)
K: Y. Koo (1)
DE: D. Hunter (1), C. Young (3+1), J. Bosa (2), J. Allen (2), K. Paye (4)
DT: A. Donald (2), Q. Williams (3)
LB: D. Leonard (2), R. Smith (3), F. Warner (3) P. Queen (3), I. Simmons (3), J. Davis (4)
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Re: Ja'Marr Chase Hype

Postby MaddMadden » Wed May 19, 2021 1:20 pm

Sidenote: Reagor hate is in the same lane as CEH hate... over hyped guys who still have a bright future that came back to earth. Reagor landed in a dumpster fire. I think drafting the Slim Reaper will help his value.
10 team half-PPR league. Starters: QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 2FLEX, K, 2DE, DT, 2LB, S, CB, 2IDP. 40man roster. Salary Cap pinned to NFL.

2022 picks: 1st, 3rd
2023 picks: 2 1st, 2 2nd, 3 3rd, 2 4ths

Players under contracts 2021 (years)
QB: K. Murray (3), T. Lance (4)
RB: S. Barkley (4), C. Edwards-Helaire (3+1), J. Jacobs (4), M. Davis (1), D. Henderson (1), AJ Dillon (3), Z. Moss (3), T. Pollard (2), T. Etienne (4)
WR: DK Metcalf (2), C. Ridley (2), T. McLaurin (2), J. Chase (4), R. Bateman (4), E. Moore (4), R. Moore (4), J. Reagor (3), B. Edwards (3), KJ Hamler (3)
TE: G. Kittle (3), A. Trautman (3)
K: Y. Koo (1)
DE: D. Hunter (1), C. Young (3+1), J. Bosa (2), J. Allen (2), K. Paye (4)
DT: A. Donald (2), Q. Williams (3)
LB: D. Leonard (2), R. Smith (3), F. Warner (3) P. Queen (3), I. Simmons (3), J. Davis (4)
S: D. James (2), R. Grant (4)
CB: K. Moore (2)

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Re: Ja'Marr Chase Hype

Postby yellowdart2448 » Wed May 19, 2021 8:56 pm

All I will say is look at Jefferson and Lamb last year. Lamb wasn’t even that good last year and he’s already considered a top 10 WR in dynasty. Chase is considered the better prospect and already has the chemistry with Burrow. Bengals defense is still terrible so Burrow will have to chuck it. They still have Higgins Boyd and Mixon so he can’t be doubled.

The “issue” is you’re drafting Chase with no room to profit where you could make a big profit on Lamb and Jefferson last year. It’s likely Chase will live up to the hype but there is very little value to gain outside of him being the next Calvin Johnson.

It’s the same issue with Lawrence. He’s likely to deliver as a consistent top 8 QB but that’s where you have to draft him in startups to get him. It’s an interesting discussion for sure.

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Re: Ja'Marr Chase Hype

Postby pnrsteelers » Wed May 19, 2021 9:10 pm

Yes he might be getting a little overhyped but the talent and potential are there and I can see him going in that range. However I would probably still pick Godwin, Ridley, and McLaurin as they have proven there worth and Chase has not. Its a little bit of a gamble to take him this early but I can see doing it.
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RB A Jones M Sanders B Robinson K Miller
WR A.J Brown CD Lamb G Wilson M Pittman G Davis D Hopkins C Sutton
D Mooney J Myers
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QB Mahomes Tua
RB Montgomery Hunt Michel
WR Hopkins Lamb, Boyd McLaurin Higgins Pittman Hardman Mooney G Davis
TE Engram, Fant, Gesicki

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QB Herbert Fields
RB A Kamara B Robinson J Ford K Miller
WR Metcalf Olave K Shakir D Wicks G Davis J Palmer J Myers Mims
TE Kittle Freiermuth

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QB Burrow Carr Goff
RB M Sanders K Herbert R Johnson C Rodtiguez
WR J Chase T Higgins C Olave C Godwin D Samuel C Sutton G Davis J Hyatt J Palmer D Wicks
TE G Kittle D Shultz Fant

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Re: Ja'Marr Chase Hype

Postby MyTeam » Thu May 20, 2021 5:08 am

MaddMadden wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 1:20 pm Sidenote: Reagor hate is in the same lane as CEH hate... over hyped guys who still have a bright future that came back to earth. Reagor landed in a dumpster fire. I think drafting the Slim Reaper will help his value.
Reagor is nothing like CEH, CEH was a RB1 through week 12 when he got hurt. Reagor had 2 games over 10 points last season.
Team 1: 12 team, PPR
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex

Mahomes, Lawrence
Najee, Swift, Javonte, Jamaal W, Murray
DK, DJM, Juju, Jameson, Gallup, Van
Pitts, Friermuth
1.01, 1.04, 1.11, 1.12, 3.10, 2 firsts next year

Team 2: 12 Team, SF TEP (1.5 PPR)
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex, 1 SF

Mahomes, Burrow, Cousins, Rudolph
CEH, Swift, Gibson, Jacobs, Mattison, Scott, McFarland
DK, AJB, Ridley, McLaurin, Kupp, Landry, Mims, Hamler, Miller, Johnson, Robinson
Andrews, H. Henry, Sternberger, Alie-Cox, Herndon

Same as Team 2
Watson, Burrow, Lance, Z. Wilson
Pollard, Mattison
Chase, D. Smith, Boyd, Hardman, E. Moore, Cephus, A. Rodgers, Harry, Boykin, A. Tate, Miller
Hockenson, Thomas, Albert O, Njoku
3 additional firsts

Same as Team 2
TLaw, Burrow, Watson, Darnold
CEH, Gus, Cohen
Juju, Chark, Shenault, Boyd, Landry, Renfrow, Robinson,
Engram, Kmet, Firkser, Schultz, Arnold, Herndon
5 additional firsts

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Re: Ja'Marr Chase Hype

Postby MaddMadden » Thu May 20, 2021 6:41 am

MyTeam wrote: Thu May 20, 2021 5:08 am
MaddMadden wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 1:20 pm Sidenote: Reagor hate is in the same lane as CEH hate... over hyped guys who still have a bright future that came back to earth. Reagor landed in a dumpster fire. I think drafting the Slim Reaper will help his value.
Reagor is nothing like CEH, CEH was a RB1 through week 12 when he got hurt. Reagor had 2 games over 10 points last season.

Sure, but he was going top 5 in start ups. I don't disagree that Reagor is by far the bigger disappointment, but whenever people get burned by hype, hate follows.

I think CEH is a great buy low candidate. I think Reagor may be able to pull it out still. Not comparing the two as prospects or potential, but there is an equivalence to frustration among owners who see their value evaporating.
10 team half-PPR league. Starters: QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 2FLEX, K, 2DE, DT, 2LB, S, CB, 2IDP. 40man roster. Salary Cap pinned to NFL.

2022 picks: 1st, 3rd
2023 picks: 2 1st, 2 2nd, 3 3rd, 2 4ths

Players under contracts 2021 (years)
QB: K. Murray (3), T. Lance (4)
RB: S. Barkley (4), C. Edwards-Helaire (3+1), J. Jacobs (4), M. Davis (1), D. Henderson (1), AJ Dillon (3), Z. Moss (3), T. Pollard (2), T. Etienne (4)
WR: DK Metcalf (2), C. Ridley (2), T. McLaurin (2), J. Chase (4), R. Bateman (4), E. Moore (4), R. Moore (4), J. Reagor (3), B. Edwards (3), KJ Hamler (3)
TE: G. Kittle (3), A. Trautman (3)
K: Y. Koo (1)
DE: D. Hunter (1), C. Young (3+1), J. Bosa (2), J. Allen (2), K. Paye (4)
DT: A. Donald (2), Q. Williams (3)
LB: D. Leonard (2), R. Smith (3), F. Warner (3) P. Queen (3), I. Simmons (3), J. Davis (4)
S: D. James (2), R. Grant (4)
CB: K. Moore (2)


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