Trade away Zeke on win now team?

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Trade away Zeke on win now team?

Postby Weber27 » Mon May 17, 2021 10:23 am

A team is willing to pay up for Zeke and this is probably the last year to sell him high, but I’d love to have his production on a win now team.

Offer is 22’ 23’ 1sts, Rojo and Fuller for Zeke.

I am countering with Terry McLaurin, Javonte Williams, 22’ 1st for Zeke, Daniel Jones and 2nd or Add Thielen and remove the 2nd and Daniel Hones

Would you do any of these trades? Or hold Zeke for a championship run?
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Re: Trade away Zeke on win now team?

Postby Gator Sens » Mon May 17, 2021 10:28 am

For team 1, I could see your counter helping your build more long term and possibly this year with McLaurin, but I doubt the other owner goes for it. Outside of a solid deal like the counter, I would rather hold Zeke for a win now team. The original offer is solid too in theory if you can flip the pieces coming back.
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Re: Trade away Zeke on win now team?

Postby StripesOfKC » Mon May 17, 2021 10:28 am

I would smash accept on the first one lol

Don't even have to think

Then turn around and flip Rojo/Fuller if you can get something decent

I seem to be one of the few who thinks a 26 year old RB on their second contract after historic usage "bouncing back" after a down season is not some guarantee

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Re: Trade away Zeke on win now team?

Postby Anteaters » Mon May 17, 2021 10:47 am

Weber27 wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 10:23 am A team is willing to pay up for Zeke and this is probably the last year to sell him high, but I’d love to have his production on a win now team.

Offer is 22’ 23’ 1sts, Rojo and Fuller for Zeke.

I am countering with Terry McLaurin, Javonte Williams, 22’ 1st for Zeke, Daniel Jones and 2nd or Add Thielen and remove the 2nd and Daniel Hones

Would you do any of these trades? Or hold Zeke for a championship run?
In larger and/or deeper leagues, RoJo and Fuller have a certain level of usefulness. In this league, not so much for contenders.

In a 10-team league with 2 Flex spots, I don't imagine RoJo has any real value for a contender - he would not start for you even in bye weeks unless you had a long term injury to another RB. Likewise, Fuller would never start for you. So basically the original offer is a late '22 First and a likely late '23 First. That's not nothing, but it's not a smash accept.

Your counter is more realistic. You get back a young WR that is startable in a 10-team 2Flex league for the next 7 years, and a rookie RB who might develop into usefulness. In a 1QB 10team league, DanJones should never be mentioned. Thielen could provide some help during your run this season, but you already have enough starters at least as good as him ... so maybe he's more depth than starter material for you.

I'd consider this deal with TMc. I'd dismiss the original offer.
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Re: Trade away Zeke on win now team?

Postby pmart33 » Mon May 17, 2021 11:08 am

With your roster I'd keep Zeke and try and win now.
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Re: Trade away Zeke on win now team?

Postby Weber27 » Mon May 17, 2021 12:24 pm

New deal:
Give Zeke, Sutton
Get Terry, Javonte, fuller, 22nd’ 1st

Deal or no Deal?
New Mexico Maulers 2019 Champion
12-Team, SF, PPR, TEP, 30 player roster, 5 Rd Rookie Draft Starters: QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 2 Flex, 1 SF
QB: Mahomes, Dak, D. Jones, R. Wilson, Stidham
RB: JT, CMC, Breece, R. White, Izz A, L. Murray, McKinnon, LF, Ahmed, Moss
WR: AJB, Sutton, Jeudy, Addison, London, Godwin, Hardman,
TE: Andrews, Friermuth, Ferguson, , Tremble

Draft Picks:
|2024| 1st, 2nd, 4th
|2025| 1, 2, 4, 5

Rocky Mountain Ramblers 2022 Champion
12 Team, SF, PPR, 30 player roster, 5 Rd Rookie Draft | Starters: QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, Flex, SF
QB: Lamar, TLaw, Dak, Darnold, M. White
RB: CMC, JT, Breece, LF, L. Murray, Ahmed, Mcglauglin, Moss, Mitchell
WR: AJB, Lamb, G. Wilson, DJM, Hopkins, Jeudy, Burks, Kirk,
TE: Pitts, Freiermuth, Dulcich, Jonnu, Johnson
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Re: Trade away Zeke on win now team?

Postby JJRules » Mon May 17, 2021 12:38 pm

Weber27 wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 12:24 pm New deal:
Give Zeke, Sutton
Get Terry, Javonte, fuller, 22nd’ 1st

Deal or no Deal?
I still prefer the Zeke side pretty handily on a win-now team. Unless Williams hits early and in a big way, this would almost certainly worsen your weekly scoring.

The value is probably there if you just really want to move Zeke, but with your roster I stay put.
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Re: Trade away Zeke on win now team?

Postby Gator Sens » Mon May 17, 2021 12:40 pm

Weber27 wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 12:24 pm New deal:
Give Zeke, Sutton
Get Terry, Javonte, fuller, 22nd’ 1st

Deal or no Deal?
I still don't like the deal much for your win now team.

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Re: Trade away Zeke on win now team?

Postby Anteaters » Mon May 17, 2021 4:04 pm

Weber27 wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 12:24 pm New deal:
Give Zeke, Sutton
Get Terry, Javonte, fuller, 22nd’ 1st
It's not a bad deal, but you have to realize it changes the set-up of your team. You go from Win-Now to Be-Good-Now-and-get-help-to-be-good-for-for-the-next-5-years. Being good is different than being good enough to win now. Some owners want teams that can make challenge for the playoffs every year but maybe not be good enough to win in any one year. Some want that special team that can have a real chance to win it all this year.

With Zeke, i think you'll be in the final four competing to make the championship game. With the other side, I think you'll be a strong favorite to make the playoffs, but advancing might be a challenge unless certain things break your way.
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Tre Tucker, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, Greenlaw; (DE/DL) ZCollins, BJHill; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates, Witherspoon
IR: Mike Williams (WR), Joey Bosa (DL)
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion

TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
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