12 team SF PPR 1-2QB, 2-5RB, 2-5WR, 1-4TE, D
Key pieces coming out of a dispersal (have some building to do for sure)....
QB: Jones
RB: Dobbins, Monty, Coleman, Michel, Vaughn
WR: Cooper, Pittman, Reagor, G Davis, Ruggs, Reynolds, Hamler
TE: Jonnu, Hurst
Have picks:
1.1 (will be Lawrence)
1.2 (leaning Chase or trade out)
1.4 (will likely be Lance or Fields)
So, I was offered:
McLaurin, 2.8, 3.8
for
1.2 pick (Chase as comparison)
I was also offered
Jacobs, 1.12
for
1.2 pick
Thoughts? How much more value does Chase (or 1.2) have than McLaurin? Given my team, do I take the upside rookie or go for an established upside player with other pieces?
Thanks
McLaurin vs. Chase
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Re: McLaurin vs. Chase
Chase will likely have a ton of value coming in post draft, as the top rookies are always valued super high. If you want to take any bust rate out, I could see making the McLaurin deal as he is already very solid. If you want to gamble on the huge upside, I would see holding too.
I would pass on the Jacobs deal.
I would pass on the Jacobs deal.
Re: McLaurin vs. Chase
So, I think the value is there on the Chase trade, but I am assuming the other owner is desparate for a QB and doesn't have a pick to land one. I would try to levarage to get him to move to the 1.04 pick or get a higher pick in return if he is set on 1.02. With only having Jones at QB, it is not unreasonable for him to think you are taking 3 QB's. Use that to your advantage.
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Re: McLaurin vs. Chase
Instead of making this trade a comparison of McLaurin and Chase, I think you should view it as 2ndBestRookieQB and McLaurin. In SF, I think the Rookie QB wins this versus every time.
Because of that, the other owner has to offer a lot more than a borderline WR2/WR1+2.8+3.8. At a minimum, I'd need McLaurin+1st. Ideally, I'd want McLaurin+2021first and a second round pick either '21 or '22. The other owner has a chance to land a starting QB for the next decade. in SF, that's worth a lot more than McLaurin.
To be clear, I'm high on McLaurin and looking to get him whereever I can. But he's not nearly enough to land the 1.2 in SF.
Because of that, the other owner has to offer a lot more than a borderline WR2/WR1+2.8+3.8. At a minimum, I'd need McLaurin+1st. Ideally, I'd want McLaurin+2021first and a second round pick either '21 or '22. The other owner has a chance to land a starting QB for the next decade. in SF, that's worth a lot more than McLaurin.
To be clear, I'm high on McLaurin and looking to get him whereever I can. But he's not nearly enough to land the 1.2 in SF.
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, Greenlaw; (DE/DL) ZCollins, BJHill; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates, Witherspoon
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, Greenlaw; (DE/DL) ZCollins, BJHill; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates, Witherspoon
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser
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Re: McLaurin vs. Chase
Definitely would not move the 1.02 in SF and only get back McLaurin and some change.
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Re: McLaurin vs. Chase
I totally missed the SF format somehow...definitely pass and hold the 1.02.atlmoneyman wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 5:32 pm Definitely would not move the 1.02 in SF and only get back McLaurin and some change.
Re: McLaurin vs. Chase
In a recent start up, 1.02 went at 3.05 and McLaurin at 5.02
Team 1: 12 team, PPR
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex
Mahomes, Lawrence
Najee, Swift, Javonte, Jamaal W, Murray
DK, DJM, Juju, Jameson, Gallup, Van
Pitts, Friermuth
1.01, 1.04, 1.11, 1.12, 3.10, 2 firsts next year
Team 2: 12 Team, SF TEP (1.5 PPR)
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex, 1 SF
Mahomes, Burrow, Cousins, Rudolph
CEH, Swift, Gibson, Jacobs, Mattison, Scott, McFarland
DK, AJB, Ridley, McLaurin, Kupp, Landry, Mims, Hamler, Miller, Johnson, Robinson
Andrews, H. Henry, Sternberger, Alie-Cox, Herndon
Same as Team 2
Watson, Burrow, Lance, Z. Wilson
Pollard, Mattison
Chase, D. Smith, Boyd, Hardman, E. Moore, Cephus, A. Rodgers, Harry, Boykin, A. Tate, Miller
Hockenson, Thomas, Albert O, Njoku
3 additional firsts
Same as Team 2
TLaw, Burrow, Watson, Darnold
CEH, Gus, Cohen
Juju, Chark, Shenault, Boyd, Landry, Renfrow, Robinson,
Engram, Kmet, Firkser, Schultz, Arnold, Herndon
5 additional firsts
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex
Mahomes, Lawrence
Najee, Swift, Javonte, Jamaal W, Murray
DK, DJM, Juju, Jameson, Gallup, Van
Pitts, Friermuth
1.01, 1.04, 1.11, 1.12, 3.10, 2 firsts next year
Team 2: 12 Team, SF TEP (1.5 PPR)
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex, 1 SF
Mahomes, Burrow, Cousins, Rudolph
CEH, Swift, Gibson, Jacobs, Mattison, Scott, McFarland
DK, AJB, Ridley, McLaurin, Kupp, Landry, Mims, Hamler, Miller, Johnson, Robinson
Andrews, H. Henry, Sternberger, Alie-Cox, Herndon
Same as Team 2
Watson, Burrow, Lance, Z. Wilson
Pollard, Mattison
Chase, D. Smith, Boyd, Hardman, E. Moore, Cephus, A. Rodgers, Harry, Boykin, A. Tate, Miller
Hockenson, Thomas, Albert O, Njoku
3 additional firsts
Same as Team 2
TLaw, Burrow, Watson, Darnold
CEH, Gus, Cohen
Juju, Chark, Shenault, Boyd, Landry, Renfrow, Robinson,
Engram, Kmet, Firkser, Schultz, Arnold, Herndon
5 additional firsts
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Re: McLaurin vs. Chase
I'd take this approach. I would much rather have 1.02 than McLaurin but if you could squeeze more out of him or use your 1.04 instead I think it could be a winner.murphysxm wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 2:17 pm So, I think the value is there on the Chase trade, but I am assuming the other owner is desparate for a QB and doesn't have a pick to land one. I would try to levarage to get him to move to the 1.04 pick or get a higher pick in return if he is set on 1.02. With only having Jones at QB, it is not unreasonable for him to think you are taking 3 QB's. Use that to your advantage.
12 team, 20 player dynasty, non-PPR, 6pt all TDs, QB 2RB 3WR TE 1FLEX
Wilson Stafford Winston | CMC Jacobs Akers Gaskin DJ Conner | Adams Hopkins Cooper JuJu Woods Jeudy Mims | Kelce Jonnu | 1.01/1.08/3.04
Wilson Stafford Winston | CMC Jacobs Akers Gaskin DJ Conner | Adams Hopkins Cooper JuJu Woods Jeudy Mims | Kelce Jonnu | 1.01/1.08/3.04