1.04 OTC - trade or Javonte/Pitts available

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1.04 OTC - trade or Javonte/Pitts available

Postby ff330 » Sat May 08, 2021 12:22 pm

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OTC with the 1.04. Team finished 5-8 after losing CMC last year. No real RB after him right now and my WR's are weak after Diggs/Jeudy.

Been offered Miles Sanders and a 2022 probable late 1st for my 1.04/2.04 from the same owner who earlier offered Sanders, Aiyuk, his 1.09 pick, and his 2022 1st for CMC plus Cam and James White. He's also thrown out Sanders plus Cam for just the 1.04.

Thinking Pitts might go at the 1.03 I was looking at ETN and Williams knowing I need a RB here. But with Pitts still around (and me with both Fant and Gesicki at TE), do I go for need with Javonte or BPA who might be Pitts and maybe try to trade one of my TE's?

Think I would prefer either Williams or Pitts over Sanders right now.

Could use some advice here. Appreciate all input.
12 team/PPR

1
QB - Mahomes
RB- Jacobs, Pierce, Penny, Mostert, Singletary, Wilson, Mckinnon, Moss, Foreman, Mitchell
WR - Kupp, Waddle, Lockett, Marquise Brown, OBJ
TE - Kincaid

2021/2012 league champion

2
QB - Dak, GSmith
RB - Swift, Mattison, White, Mostert, Gibbs, Foreman, Mitchell, D. Cook
WR - AJB, Kupp, Kirk, C.Samuel, JWilliams, OBJ, Ross
TE - Kittle, Ferguson

3
QB - Allen, Tua
RB - Kamara, AJones, Walker, Chandler, Pierce, Akers, JWilliams, Jaleel M., Mitchell
WR - Adams, Hopkins, Lockett, J. Watson
TE - Kraft, Dulcich

4
QB - Allen, Burrow (IR)
RB - CMC, Kamara, Stevenson, J.Cook, Foreman, J.Wilson, Jaleel, Mitchell
WR - Diggs, Jeudy, Aiyuk, ARSB, MWilliams Mooney, Downs, N. Brown
TE - Kincaid, Engram

2023 league champion

5
QB - Mahomes, Cousins
RB - Chubb, AJones, Akers, Foreman, Moss, Penny, Jaleel, Mitchell, Gray
WR - Adams, MThomas, Waddle, GDavis, Mooney, JWilliams, Downs, Dell, Skyy, Ross
TE - Goedert

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Re: 1.04 OTC - trade or Javonte/Pitts available

Postby Gator Sens » Sat May 08, 2021 12:30 pm

Based on your build, I prefer Sanders+ to Williams if you go RB. I would try to hold your 2nd out of the trade however.

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Re: 1.04 OTC - trade or Javonte/Pitts available

Postby ff330 » Sat May 08, 2021 12:51 pm

Agree that I would rather hold the 2.04 since there may not be a lot of difference with his late 1st next year. He almost won it all in 2020.

Just not 100% convinced on Sanders yet. Williams would be more for next season assuming Denver lets Gordon walk but I could flex Pitts this year as my TE #2 and team him with either Gesicki or Fant. He could be my 4th WR if he plays to his potential.

With all of his offers of Sanders for my 1.04, I'm not sure if his CMC offer will resurrect itself once we get closer to his 1.09 pick.
12 team/PPR

1
QB - Mahomes
RB- Jacobs, Pierce, Penny, Mostert, Singletary, Wilson, Mckinnon, Moss, Foreman, Mitchell
WR - Kupp, Waddle, Lockett, Marquise Brown, OBJ
TE - Kincaid

2021/2012 league champion

2
QB - Dak, GSmith
RB - Swift, Mattison, White, Mostert, Gibbs, Foreman, Mitchell, D. Cook
WR - AJB, Kupp, Kirk, C.Samuel, JWilliams, OBJ, Ross
TE - Kittle, Ferguson

3
QB - Allen, Tua
RB - Kamara, AJones, Walker, Chandler, Pierce, Akers, JWilliams, Jaleel M., Mitchell
WR - Adams, Hopkins, Lockett, J. Watson
TE - Kraft, Dulcich

4
QB - Allen, Burrow (IR)
RB - CMC, Kamara, Stevenson, J.Cook, Foreman, J.Wilson, Jaleel, Mitchell
WR - Diggs, Jeudy, Aiyuk, ARSB, MWilliams Mooney, Downs, N. Brown
TE - Kincaid, Engram

2023 league champion

5
QB - Mahomes, Cousins
RB - Chubb, AJones, Akers, Foreman, Moss, Penny, Jaleel, Mitchell, Gray
WR - Adams, MThomas, Waddle, GDavis, Mooney, JWilliams, Downs, Dell, Skyy, Ross
TE - Goedert

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Re: 1.04 OTC - trade or Javonte/Pitts available

Postby ff330 » Sat May 08, 2021 1:55 pm

Now it's his 1.09 plus 2022 1st and 2nd late picks for my 1.04. Have a feeling the original offer for CMC has left the building even he said he was still interested last night.

He has Kittle, Logan, and Trautman for TE's so I'm thinking he's more interested in Javonte than Pitts but I really don't know. His RB's right now are Elliot, Hunt, and Sanders.

The owner with the 1.05/1.06/1.08 has said he'd give two of his 1st's for CMC as a start to the conversation.
12 team/PPR

1
QB - Mahomes
RB- Jacobs, Pierce, Penny, Mostert, Singletary, Wilson, Mckinnon, Moss, Foreman, Mitchell
WR - Kupp, Waddle, Lockett, Marquise Brown, OBJ
TE - Kincaid

2021/2012 league champion

2
QB - Dak, GSmith
RB - Swift, Mattison, White, Mostert, Gibbs, Foreman, Mitchell, D. Cook
WR - AJB, Kupp, Kirk, C.Samuel, JWilliams, OBJ, Ross
TE - Kittle, Ferguson

3
QB - Allen, Tua
RB - Kamara, AJones, Walker, Chandler, Pierce, Akers, JWilliams, Jaleel M., Mitchell
WR - Adams, Hopkins, Lockett, J. Watson
TE - Kraft, Dulcich

4
QB - Allen, Burrow (IR)
RB - CMC, Kamara, Stevenson, J.Cook, Foreman, J.Wilson, Jaleel, Mitchell
WR - Diggs, Jeudy, Aiyuk, ARSB, MWilliams Mooney, Downs, N. Brown
TE - Kincaid, Engram

2023 league champion

5
QB - Mahomes, Cousins
RB - Chubb, AJones, Akers, Foreman, Moss, Penny, Jaleel, Mitchell, Gray
WR - Adams, MThomas, Waddle, GDavis, Mooney, JWilliams, Downs, Dell, Skyy, Ross
TE - Goedert

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Re: 1.04 OTC - trade or Javonte/Pitts available

Postby Gator Sens » Sat May 08, 2021 1:58 pm

ff330 wrote: Sat May 08, 2021 1:55 pm Now it's his 1.09 plus 2022 1st and 2nd late picks for my 1.04. Have a feeling the original offer for CMC has left the building even he said he was still interested last night.

He has Kittle, Logan, and Trautman for TE's so I'm thinking he's more interested in Javonte than Pitts but I really don't know. His RB's right now are Elliot, Hunt, and Sanders.

The owner with the 1.05/1.06/1.08 has said he'd give two of his 1st's for CMC as a start to the conversation.
With Sanders coming out if the original deal, I would hold as this trades you out if the elite tier.

CMC is worth more than two mid 1sts still.

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Re: 1.04 OTC - trade or Javonte/Pitts available

Postby ff330 » Sat May 08, 2021 2:12 pm

Thanks Gator. As usual, you're probably the most responsive one here.

Again I agree that giving the 1.04 up for the 1.09 and two unknowns for next year takes me out of the top 5 picks.
Looking at team #4, would you consider taking Devonta or Waddle over Pitts or Williams with that roster? I still feel Pitts is the BPA but this team needs help in several places other than TE.

And yes, two 1sts are not enough for CMC but what do you think about the 1.05/1.06 and 1.08? I don't think he'd give up all three but it could net me Williams with my 1.04, Pitts, Devonta and one more with the 8th pick. Thoughts? Or am I giving up too much in CMC?

I appreciate all of your input to a number of my posts here.
12 team/PPR

1
QB - Mahomes
RB- Jacobs, Pierce, Penny, Mostert, Singletary, Wilson, Mckinnon, Moss, Foreman, Mitchell
WR - Kupp, Waddle, Lockett, Marquise Brown, OBJ
TE - Kincaid

2021/2012 league champion

2
QB - Dak, GSmith
RB - Swift, Mattison, White, Mostert, Gibbs, Foreman, Mitchell, D. Cook
WR - AJB, Kupp, Kirk, C.Samuel, JWilliams, OBJ, Ross
TE - Kittle, Ferguson

3
QB - Allen, Tua
RB - Kamara, AJones, Walker, Chandler, Pierce, Akers, JWilliams, Jaleel M., Mitchell
WR - Adams, Hopkins, Lockett, J. Watson
TE - Kraft, Dulcich

4
QB - Allen, Burrow (IR)
RB - CMC, Kamara, Stevenson, J.Cook, Foreman, J.Wilson, Jaleel, Mitchell
WR - Diggs, Jeudy, Aiyuk, ARSB, MWilliams Mooney, Downs, N. Brown
TE - Kincaid, Engram

2023 league champion

5
QB - Mahomes, Cousins
RB - Chubb, AJones, Akers, Foreman, Moss, Penny, Jaleel, Mitchell, Gray
WR - Adams, MThomas, Waddle, GDavis, Mooney, JWilliams, Downs, Dell, Skyy, Ross
TE - Goedert

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Re: 1.04 OTC - trade or Javonte/Pitts available

Postby Gator Sens » Sat May 08, 2021 2:17 pm

ff330 wrote: Sat May 08, 2021 2:12 pm Thanks Gator. As usual, you're probably the most responsive one here.

Again I agree that giving the 1.04 up for the 1.09 and two unknowns for next year takes me out of the top 5 picks.
Looking at team #4, would you consider taking Devonta or Waddle over Pitts or Williams with that roster? I still feel Pitts is the BPA but this team needs help in several places other than TE.

And yes, two 1sts are not enough for CMC but what do you think about the 1.05/1.06 and 1.08? I don't think he'd give up all three but it could net me Williams with my 1.04, Pitts, Devonta and one more with the 8th pick. Thoughts? Or am I giving up too much in CMC?

I appreciate all of your input to a number of my posts here.
I'm probably the wrong person to ask the first question ha ha. I would 100% Smith or Waddle over either and Smith would be my choice.

I think all three picks is decent value in theory, but if none of them hit, it's a big miss. I think an asset like CMC needs to be dealt for picks and at least one known solid asset. Picks are too risky for such an asset in my opinion.

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Re: 1.04 OTC - trade or Javonte/Pitts available

Postby ff330 » Sat May 08, 2021 2:45 pm

I like the last option but don't think he has a solid asset to offer. I'll take another look. I'll think about Devota again for the 1.04 as well.

Since I have your "ear"..... I'm OTC at 1.08 in another draft for team #2 in sig and lost Smith to the 1.07 picker. MY options are now Sermon, Bateman, Carter. It's non-SF so Trevor and the others are still all around but I have hopefully a healthy Dak back for this year.

I planned on maybe going with Sermon a month ago with a late 2nd but after SF picked him he's shot up the board quite a bit.
12 team/PPR

1
QB - Mahomes
RB- Jacobs, Pierce, Penny, Mostert, Singletary, Wilson, Mckinnon, Moss, Foreman, Mitchell
WR - Kupp, Waddle, Lockett, Marquise Brown, OBJ
TE - Kincaid

2021/2012 league champion

2
QB - Dak, GSmith
RB - Swift, Mattison, White, Mostert, Gibbs, Foreman, Mitchell, D. Cook
WR - AJB, Kupp, Kirk, C.Samuel, JWilliams, OBJ, Ross
TE - Kittle, Ferguson

3
QB - Allen, Tua
RB - Kamara, AJones, Walker, Chandler, Pierce, Akers, JWilliams, Jaleel M., Mitchell
WR - Adams, Hopkins, Lockett, J. Watson
TE - Kraft, Dulcich

4
QB - Allen, Burrow (IR)
RB - CMC, Kamara, Stevenson, J.Cook, Foreman, J.Wilson, Jaleel, Mitchell
WR - Diggs, Jeudy, Aiyuk, ARSB, MWilliams Mooney, Downs, N. Brown
TE - Kincaid, Engram

2023 league champion

5
QB - Mahomes, Cousins
RB - Chubb, AJones, Akers, Foreman, Moss, Penny, Jaleel, Mitchell, Gray
WR - Adams, MThomas, Waddle, GDavis, Mooney, JWilliams, Downs, Dell, Skyy, Ross
TE - Goedert

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Re: 1.04 OTC - trade or Javonte/Pitts available

Postby Gator Sens » Sat May 08, 2021 2:50 pm

ff330 wrote: Sat May 08, 2021 2:45 pm I like the last option but don't think he has a solid asset to offer. I'll take another look. I'll think about Devota again for the 1.04 as well.

Since I have your "ear"..... I'm OTC at 1.08 in another draft for team #2 in sig and lost Smith to the 1.07 picker. MY options are now Sermon, Bateman, Carter. It's non-SF so Trevor and the others are still all around but I have hopefully a healthy Dak back for this year.

I planned on maybe going with Sermon a month ago with a late 2nd but after SF picked him he's shot up the board quite a bit.
Tough place to be in the other draft. Honestly, I like Lawrence the most on value and upside at that spot but Carter on opportunity if you dont want to go QB.

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Re: 1.04 OTC - trade or Javonte/Pitts available

Postby ff330 » Sat May 08, 2021 2:57 pm

I also am not thrilled with the spot. Should have tried to trade back but was hoping Smith would slip a bit here. Trevor could be Dak injury insurance or maybe trade bait if he starts hot...

Too early for Bateman, Rondale, or Elijah Moore (I already have Mims there)?

Thx again. Glad my other two drafts scheduled for this morning were put on hold.
12 team/PPR

1
QB - Mahomes
RB- Jacobs, Pierce, Penny, Mostert, Singletary, Wilson, Mckinnon, Moss, Foreman, Mitchell
WR - Kupp, Waddle, Lockett, Marquise Brown, OBJ
TE - Kincaid

2021/2012 league champion

2
QB - Dak, GSmith
RB - Swift, Mattison, White, Mostert, Gibbs, Foreman, Mitchell, D. Cook
WR - AJB, Kupp, Kirk, C.Samuel, JWilliams, OBJ, Ross
TE - Kittle, Ferguson

3
QB - Allen, Tua
RB - Kamara, AJones, Walker, Chandler, Pierce, Akers, JWilliams, Jaleel M., Mitchell
WR - Adams, Hopkins, Lockett, J. Watson
TE - Kraft, Dulcich

4
QB - Allen, Burrow (IR)
RB - CMC, Kamara, Stevenson, J.Cook, Foreman, J.Wilson, Jaleel, Mitchell
WR - Diggs, Jeudy, Aiyuk, ARSB, MWilliams Mooney, Downs, N. Brown
TE - Kincaid, Engram

2023 league champion

5
QB - Mahomes, Cousins
RB - Chubb, AJones, Akers, Foreman, Moss, Penny, Jaleel, Mitchell, Gray
WR - Adams, MThomas, Waddle, GDavis, Mooney, JWilliams, Downs, Dell, Skyy, Ross
TE - Goedert

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Re: 1.04 OTC - trade or Javonte/Pitts available

Postby Gator Sens » Sat May 08, 2021 2:58 pm

ff330 wrote: Sat May 08, 2021 2:57 pm I also am not thrilled with the spot. Should have tried to trade back but was hoping Smith would slip a bit here. Trevor could be Dak injury insurance or maybe trade bait if he starts hot...

Too early for Bateman, Rondale, or Elijah Moore (I already have Mims there)?

Thx again. Glad my other two drafts scheduled for this morning were put on hold.
Not crazy about the landing spots for those mentioned, but the upside is there too. Total gamble 😀

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Re: 1.04 OTC - trade or Javonte/Pitts available

Postby ff330 » Sat May 08, 2021 3:08 pm

Thx Gator. I'll stop bugging you now...... :)
12 team/PPR

1
QB - Mahomes
RB- Jacobs, Pierce, Penny, Mostert, Singletary, Wilson, Mckinnon, Moss, Foreman, Mitchell
WR - Kupp, Waddle, Lockett, Marquise Brown, OBJ
TE - Kincaid

2021/2012 league champion

2
QB - Dak, GSmith
RB - Swift, Mattison, White, Mostert, Gibbs, Foreman, Mitchell, D. Cook
WR - AJB, Kupp, Kirk, C.Samuel, JWilliams, OBJ, Ross
TE - Kittle, Ferguson

3
QB - Allen, Tua
RB - Kamara, AJones, Walker, Chandler, Pierce, Akers, JWilliams, Jaleel M., Mitchell
WR - Adams, Hopkins, Lockett, J. Watson
TE - Kraft, Dulcich

4
QB - Allen, Burrow (IR)
RB - CMC, Kamara, Stevenson, J.Cook, Foreman, J.Wilson, Jaleel, Mitchell
WR - Diggs, Jeudy, Aiyuk, ARSB, MWilliams Mooney, Downs, N. Brown
TE - Kincaid, Engram

2023 league champion

5
QB - Mahomes, Cousins
RB - Chubb, AJones, Akers, Foreman, Moss, Penny, Jaleel, Mitchell, Gray
WR - Adams, MThomas, Waddle, GDavis, Mooney, JWilliams, Downs, Dell, Skyy, Ross
TE - Goedert

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Postby Gator Sens » Sat May 08, 2021 3:13 pm

ff330 wrote: Sat May 08, 2021 3:08 pm Thx Gator. I'll stop bugging you now...... :)
All good, I'm happy to help! I'm just hanging out waiting for the hockey game and for a family bday party to start. My wife is at work and the dogs don't always want to talk dynasty.

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Re: 1.04 OTC - trade or Javonte/Pitts available

Postby ff330 » Sat May 08, 2021 3:25 pm

What's hockey? Just kidding. Used to watch the Rangers when I was younger....

I lied about not bugging you again - He sent another offer for my 1.04.

He gives:
Aiyuk,Brandon WR SF
DRAFTPICK:#9 Round-1 Pick-9
DRAFTPICK:#33 Round-3 Pick-9

I give:
DRAFTPICK:#4 Round-1 Pick-4
DRAFTPICK:#16 Round-2 Pick-4
Newton,Cam QB NE

Aiyuk is possibly his #4 or #5 WR so he can afford to give him up if he has to for another top asset.

And I still haven't made up my mind between Devonta, Pitts, and Williams. Don't you just love slow drafts????
12 team/PPR

1
QB - Mahomes
RB- Jacobs, Pierce, Penny, Mostert, Singletary, Wilson, Mckinnon, Moss, Foreman, Mitchell
WR - Kupp, Waddle, Lockett, Marquise Brown, OBJ
TE - Kincaid

2021/2012 league champion

2
QB - Dak, GSmith
RB - Swift, Mattison, White, Mostert, Gibbs, Foreman, Mitchell, D. Cook
WR - AJB, Kupp, Kirk, C.Samuel, JWilliams, OBJ, Ross
TE - Kittle, Ferguson

3
QB - Allen, Tua
RB - Kamara, AJones, Walker, Chandler, Pierce, Akers, JWilliams, Jaleel M., Mitchell
WR - Adams, Hopkins, Lockett, J. Watson
TE - Kraft, Dulcich

4
QB - Allen, Burrow (IR)
RB - CMC, Kamara, Stevenson, J.Cook, Foreman, J.Wilson, Jaleel, Mitchell
WR - Diggs, Jeudy, Aiyuk, ARSB, MWilliams Mooney, Downs, N. Brown
TE - Kincaid, Engram

2023 league champion

5
QB - Mahomes, Cousins
RB - Chubb, AJones, Akers, Foreman, Moss, Penny, Jaleel, Mitchell, Gray
WR - Adams, MThomas, Waddle, GDavis, Mooney, JWilliams, Downs, Dell, Skyy, Ross
TE - Goedert

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Re: 1.04 OTC - trade or Javonte/Pitts available

Postby Gator Sens » Sat May 08, 2021 3:29 pm

ff330 wrote: Sat May 08, 2021 3:25 pm What's hockey? Just kidding. Used to watch the Rangers when I was younger....

I lied about not bugging you again - He sent another offer for my 1.04.

He gives:
Aiyuk,Brandon WR SF
DRAFTPICK:#9 Round-1 Pick-9
DRAFTPICK:#33 Round-3 Pick-9

I give:
DRAFTPICK:#4 Round-1 Pick-4
DRAFTPICK:#16 Round-2 Pick-4
Newton,Cam QB NE

Aiyuk is possibly his #4 or #5 WR so he can afford to give him up if he has to for another top asset.

And I still haven't made up my mind between Devonta, Pitts, and Williams. Don't you just love slow drafts????
I'm super high on Smith, so again tough for me to say but I see the value here with how well Aiyuk showed last year.


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