Harris or Dobbins?

[Edgy68]

I'm not trying to pretend like Dobbins is inferior to Harris in talent. I think it's closer than some in here are saying. Not that anybody is saying anything crazy.
I factor in draft capital at least a little bit here. In a day and age where the 1st round RB is endangered and almost extinct, it says something that PIT took him at 24. Plus we all know how PIT likes to use one horse. That one horse is Harris.
Dobbins will have to compete with both Lamar and Edwards at least in BAL.
I doubt that PIT will go from having the type of line they're used to, to just being okay with the type of line they have now. They will build around Harris and whoever the next QB is. And they will run Harris into the ground for 4 or 5 years. I know he's 22, so those 4 or 5 years is probably all you're going to get. But, that's becoming the way it is with RB's anymore.
I'm one of the few who'd rather have Harris here.

He’s 23 as of this past March and decided not to come out in a class that contained Dobbins. Maybe another year behind Alabama’s line refined him, but I’ll take the younger (9 mos) back who has shown it in the NFL. I don’t think the gap is a 1st, but I’d want a little something to make the switch.

[Dynastydumpsterfire]

Keep 1.01 and draft Chase.

[Dynastydumpsterfire]

keep 1.01 and draft Chase.

[killer_of_giants]

I think both are good assets to have, but give me Dobbins. Run friendly system and proven NFL talent vs a guy who hasn't played a snap yet. Talent wise I've always like Dobbins and had him right up there with Taylor predraft last season.

Situations change quickly in the NFL. Dobbins may get 50 receptions and Pittsburg might remember how to block. Using either as a fact is just speculation.

completely agree with this.

[Zhoward88]

It’s hilarious seeing people on here say dobbins is more talented than najee Harris. That is just funny.

They are probably saying that because he is considerably more talented

There's a reason Najee returned to school over competing with last year's crop of RBs

It's very convenient how many people seem to either forget or overlook this fact.

I’m debating an entirely different aspect of this conversation. It’s impossible to look at a player and say “dobbins is way more talented than this guy”. Is Swift more talented than Taylor? Is Taylor more talented than CMC? Lmao wasting your breathe even discussing that. You’re talking about RBs that’s are the lead backs of their team. Take the guy you want. But it means nothing to me if little Johnny believes dobbins is more talented than one guy or another: know why??? Because there are another 1000 people saying the other way almost always. First round RB, is talented, plays all 3 downs, and Steelers WANTED him. He’s a good option whether people like it or not. Dobbins is a great talent on a run first team, with a mobile QB. Would it shock anyone if dobbins or Harris had more yards/fantasy points next year? I don’t think so. If Harris has more that’s not shocking. If dobbins has more it’s the same. Wouldn’t be surprised either way. It’s like the people on here talking about “they are down on this guy”....ok....cool. 3 other people are high on him. What does it mean that you are not high on a player? Means absolutely nothing to me. Nobody was high on James robinson, then everyone was high on James robinson. Are they still? What do you think of the people saying “I’m not big on UDFA’s, especially with a new coach”. Yea they don’t look to stupid now do they. It’s all just hog wash. I like dobbins and Harris. But I’m not gonna sit here and act like a pro scout. I’m just gonna discuss stuff about their situations and take who I want. Some guys on here have good points and speak well. Others acting like Harris is a below average talent or just a worse player than dobbins is funny. Yes. Funny. Silly boys.

[murphysxm]

Others acting like Harris is a below average talent or just a worse player than dobbins is funny. Yes. Funny. Silly boys.

I have not seen a single post that has said Harris is a below average talent. I think it is a valid point that he was advised and chose to go back to college and not enter a loaded RB class last year, that included Dobbins. This was because there where more talented backs in the class, like Dobbins. I am also no NFL scout, but I listen to what they say. If that makes me silly, bring it on.

[Zhoward88]

I have no problem with anyone leaning one way or another. I have zero stock in either of these players. My point is there isn’t a formula to know who is better or will be better. The nfl scouts get it wrong all the time. Every year to be in fact. Sometimes due to the talent they evaluated, other times because of injury or team fit. But when you say you listen to what scouts say....do you only listen to what you want to hear from them? Because several sites like bleacher report, yahoo sports etc have najee as the consensus #1 RB, and some scouts have said his combination of speed and balance, with his size and vision make him one of the best RB prospects in years. People point to Alabama offense being the reason then watch the highlight reel and see a lot of his production was from his own physicality and talent. Stiffarming defenders and hurdling them for 60 yard tds. It just comes down to preference and if you prefer Harris or dobbins....great! But don’t say you are listening to the scouts. Because many claim he’s a huge asset and a top RB prospect in recent years. Discussing the situations and what is seen on tape is good discussion. Dobbins is going to be a stud. Been trying to obtain a share of him in my main league for months now. This site is a great tool for ideas and help. But it’s crazy what it does to the value of players for no reason. One guy starts saying something and it catches like wildfire. Guess what...I don’t like mixon. Do I expect anyone to care? No. Because a huge amount do like him still!. But I can say I do like his physical attributes and versatility. But his lack of production a majority of the games he has played last two years is not a confidence boost to me. And then of course the injury history. So yea...for anyone to be acting like najee isn’t a premiere rookie RB or doesn’t match up to someone like dobbins just makes no sense to me. Especially when they claim it’s because of what scouts say. Scouts are saying he’s a stud! And FYI...Todd mcshay has been as wrong as anyone on skill position players. I’d look around for some extra info if you take his words sincerely.

[murphysxm]

So yea...for anyone to be acting like najee isn’t a premiere rookie RB or doesn’t match up to someone like dobbins just makes no sense to me. Especially when they claim it’s because of what scouts say. Scouts are saying he’s a stud! And FYI...Todd mcshay has been as wrong as anyone on skill position players. I’d look around for some extra info if you take his words sincerely.

Again, you seem to be putting words in people's mouth. Nobody is saying Harris isn't a premiere rookie RB, he was drafted in round 1 in the NFL for a reeason. All others are saying is there is logic that Dobbins is a superior talent when Harris would have been maybe the 4th or 5th RB taken in 2020. Plus Dobbins is younger and has shown ability in the NFL already. This isn't a bash Harris type of thing, Dobbins just has more boxes checked to me

[Zhoward88]

It’s a very biased forum and rightfully so. But it’s good to get all angles of perceptions, situations, talent. People will knock a guy that they don’t have and talk up a guy they do have. Just part of it I get it. Never meant to legit put words in anyone’s mouth. It’s just common chat throughout this site. Dobbins has as many, if not more reasons to be concerned. 95% of his TDs came from 2 yards out, and almost all of his bigger plays were some HORRID tackling. Pair that with Lamar capable of stealing any and every goaline TD, and the investment they put in for Gus edwards. Idk. Talking up only the positives of one guy and only the negatives of another is just annoying. Happens a lot. Yet again, nobody knows. Either could shine or decline.

[killer_of_giants]

95% of his TDs came from 2 yards out, ... Pair that with Lamar capable of stealing any and every goaline TD

so are we worried that he doesn't get goal line carries, or that he does get too many? i'm confused...

[Zhoward88]

95% of his TDs came from 2 yards out, ... Pair that with Lamar capable of stealing any and every goaline TD

so are we worried that he doesn't get goal line carries, or that he does get too many? i'm confused...

It’s just one facet to look at. Those types of TDs could vary immensely, especially with another RB in the mix that has back to back 700 yard seasons amd the team has talked up this offseason, and a QB that runs for 1000 yards and red zone TDs too. Point being, dobbins didn’t bust many TDs that were long at all. Got caught from behind and didn’t make some guys miss. I can say the same negative things about many other good players. It’s just how these guys get portrayed here. People point out things like that all the time. I actually do not disagree when people say dobbins over Harris. I’ll throw out facts that could seem like like I hate dobbins but I’m just being real. Like the fact he had 2 fumbles in 160 carries last year and Harris had 3 fumbles in 800 in college. Different level of gameplay yes, but numbers are numbers according to many. College production counts so I’d assume fumbles do too. Either way....Harris and dobbins are close in value to me at the moment. But I do feel next year could be a little different. To me it looks like a hard core committee in Baltimore and a workhorse in Pittsburgh.

[DynastyKing23]

I'll take Harris any day and I think the difference will be more obvious easy off season. So many people point to some flaws or that 1 has played in the nfl and the other has yet to take a snap. I do think thats a big factor to consider but it'd not the end of discussion. Would you rather have harris or jacobs, sanders, Montgomery? All 3 have played well in the nfl and all 3 have shown us what we can expect their ceilings to be. I'd take harris over all 3 easily.

From 2020 as of today give me taylor, Swift, Akers over harris and possibly Gibson. I'll take harris over ceh or dobbins all day any day. Even if he's a mid level talent, which he is not, the sheer workload of a work horse back provides a safe floor of a high end rb2 low end rb1.

I think harris has more talent then dobbins, is in a better situation, and the age difference is only 1 year. When you take into account that these young 21 and 22 year Olds sit for most of their first year as opposed to harris who will come in as the starter day 1 the age of fantasy relevance and years of production are basically equal

[atlmoneyman]

The guy with a terrible offensive line or the guy who will lose carries to his QB and maybe another RB. Hmm...