ARob v Javonte Williams

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Allen Robinson
16
59%
Javonte Williams
11
41%
 
Total votes: 27

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ARob v Javonte Williams

Postby Adam_172 » Wed May 05, 2021 4:28 am

Team in Sig 3.

Could do with RB help but am I underselling ARob?
TEAM 1
Dynasty PPR 1QB (12 Team League)

QB - Murray, Fields, Pickett, Howell.
RB - Gibbs, R. White, Swift, Javonte Williams, Charbonnet, Allegier, Tank Bigsby, Penny.
WR - Nacua, Dell, Hollywood, Jameson Williams, Burks, Mooney, Atwell, Melton, Phillips, Washington, Lazard.
TE - Ferguson, Mayer, Knox.
DEF - Bills, Vikings.

Rookie Picks: 1.02, 2.02, 3.02, 4.02 and 5.02.


TEAM 2
Dynasty PPR - SuperFlex and TE Prem. (16 teams)

QB - Prescott, Pickett, Ridder, Mariota, Mullins, Willis.
RB - Walker III, R. White, Montgomery, Singletary, R. Jones, Mack, Hull, Sermon.
WR - Adams, Higgins, Watson, Meyers, Gabe Davis, W. Robinson, Dotson, Raymond, ARob.
TE - McBride, H. Henry, B. Jordan, Bates, B. Hopkins.

Rookie Picks: 2.14 and 3.14.

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Re: ARob v Javonte Williams

Postby Adam_172 » Wed May 05, 2021 4:29 am

Javonte just went at 1.10 in the rookie draft.
TEAM 1
Dynasty PPR 1QB (12 Team League)

QB - Murray, Fields, Pickett, Howell.
RB - Gibbs, R. White, Swift, Javonte Williams, Charbonnet, Allegier, Tank Bigsby, Penny.
WR - Nacua, Dell, Hollywood, Jameson Williams, Burks, Mooney, Atwell, Melton, Phillips, Washington, Lazard.
TE - Ferguson, Mayer, Knox.
DEF - Bills, Vikings.

Rookie Picks: 1.02, 2.02, 3.02, 4.02 and 5.02.


TEAM 2
Dynasty PPR - SuperFlex and TE Prem. (16 teams)

QB - Prescott, Pickett, Ridder, Mariota, Mullins, Willis.
RB - Walker III, R. White, Montgomery, Singletary, R. Jones, Mack, Hull, Sermon.
WR - Adams, Higgins, Watson, Meyers, Gabe Davis, W. Robinson, Dotson, Raymond, ARob.
TE - McBride, H. Henry, B. Jordan, Bates, B. Hopkins.

Rookie Picks: 2.14 and 3.14.

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Re: ARob v Javonte Williams

Postby BradysBunch » Wed May 05, 2021 5:00 am

I like where Williams landed ( enough for me to consider him as the same tier as Harris and ETN ), I think by mid season he is the back to have in DEN. I would take Williams over AROB here.
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QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/WR/TE/flex/SF
Mahomes/TLAW/Fields
N. Harris/J. Williams/Gibbs/CEH/A. Jones/Hubbard/Haskins/Ingram
Kupp/Jefferson/Chase/Lamb/Hopkins/MT/Watson/Dotson/
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Re: ARob v Javonte Williams

Postby Jigga94 » Wed May 05, 2021 5:27 am

Give me Williams. He looks good enough to be an RB2, plays at the much more scarce position and is much younger. Oh and he's not stuck in Chicago

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Re: ARob v Javonte Williams

Postby Gator Sens » Wed May 05, 2021 6:00 am

I would need something solid up top of Williams. Robinson is a too 10 producing WR multiple years now. I understand how pricey RBs are and rookies are exciting but this is a very risky deal selling a well established and point scorer straight up.

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Re: ARob v Javonte Williams

Postby Adam_172 » Wed May 05, 2021 6:38 am

Thanks guys, I must admit, I thought i'd see a 80% + split in ARob's favor.

Do you think i'm trying to push too much if I ask him to add a 2022 2nd?

So, ARob for Javonte + 2022 2nd
TEAM 1
Dynasty PPR 1QB (12 Team League)

QB - Murray, Fields, Pickett, Howell.
RB - Gibbs, R. White, Swift, Javonte Williams, Charbonnet, Allegier, Tank Bigsby, Penny.
WR - Nacua, Dell, Hollywood, Jameson Williams, Burks, Mooney, Atwell, Melton, Phillips, Washington, Lazard.
TE - Ferguson, Mayer, Knox.
DEF - Bills, Vikings.

Rookie Picks: 1.02, 2.02, 3.02, 4.02 and 5.02.


TEAM 2
Dynasty PPR - SuperFlex and TE Prem. (16 teams)

QB - Prescott, Pickett, Ridder, Mariota, Mullins, Willis.
RB - Walker III, R. White, Montgomery, Singletary, R. Jones, Mack, Hull, Sermon.
WR - Adams, Higgins, Watson, Meyers, Gabe Davis, W. Robinson, Dotson, Raymond, ARob.
TE - McBride, H. Henry, B. Jordan, Bates, B. Hopkins.

Rookie Picks: 2.14 and 3.14.

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Re: ARob v Javonte Williams

Postby Jigga94 » Wed May 05, 2021 9:46 am

Adam_172 wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 6:38 am Thanks guys, I must admit, I thought i'd see a 80% + split in ARob's favor.

Do you think i'm trying to push too much if I ask him to add a 2022 2nd?

So, ARob for Javonte + 2022 2nd
If he came to you, that's more than fair

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Re: ARob v Javonte Williams

Postby Anteaters » Wed May 05, 2021 11:42 am

I love ARob and think he is criminally undervalued. But dang, I think Javonte is the real deal and he landed in a great spot. It's tearing me apart, but I chose Javonte. But I agree with Gator that something else should come back on top of Javonte. A 2022 2nd (hopefully high) looks good.
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, Greenlaw; (DE/DL) ZCollins, BJHill; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates, Witherspoon
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QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
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Re: ARob v Javonte Williams

Postby Zhoward88 » Wed May 05, 2021 12:21 pm

This is easily Williams. Robinsons age and WR being so easy to replace for production allows Williams the answer here. 35th overall in the draft on a team that just moved off a RB and has another injury prone back in front of him. Yep, JW all day everyday here. Might not get anything close to what you want for robinson this time next year.
10 team league....16 offensive keepers selected by April first. 28 man rosters during the season. 1 keeper defense and 1 keeper kicker.

.5 ppr, TE premium +.5, .2 return yards, big play bonuses, 4 team playoffs and 2 week super bowl (wk 15,16).
Start 1 QB 6 pt passing TD, 2 RBs, 3 WR, 1 flex, 1 TE.

QBs- Dak P
RBs- miles sanders, CEH, Najee Harris, Antonio gibson, James robinson, Boston Scott, qadree ollison, eno Benjamin, Sony michel, kerryon Johnson, gerrid Doaks, Larry rountree,
WRs- Brandon aiyuk, shenault, Adam thielen, Antonio brown, kadarius Toney, Jacobi Meyers, Dwayne eskridge, jalen Darden.

TEs- Goedert, fant, Hayden hurst, Dan Arnold, Donald parham
Kicker- koo

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Re: ARob v Javonte Williams

Postby OhSnapItsAnt » Wed May 05, 2021 4:49 pm

Gator Sens wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 6:00 am I would need something solid up top of Williams. Robinson is a too 10 producing WR multiple years now. I understand how pricey RBs are and rookies are exciting but this is a very risky deal selling a well established and point scorer straight up.
Completely agree with this..
I remember thinking Rashaad Penny and Darrel Henderson landed in great spots....

You’re trading a proven STUD for an unproven rookie..you’re taking the risk. i think it’s extreme to say Williams>Allen Robinson when we have no idea how he’s going to pan out. You’re taking a huge risk with your team.
I’d feel way more comfortable trying to get a 2nd added if you can.
But dont get me wrong, I love Javonte and I have him ranked as my #2 rookie RB. So I wouldn’t be completely mad if you did this straight up. But to be realistic ARob>javonte

Btw in a team not in my sig. I sold ARob and 2.5 for CEH, Viska, so I do think it’s a good time to sell him.
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QB: Allen, Burrow, Goff, Aidan OConnel
RB: ETN, K Walker, Swift, D Pierce, Monty, Herbert, McLaughlin
WR: Deebo, AJB, Lamb, DJM, Dell, Higgins, Jeudy, E Moore, Michael Wilson, Tutu
TE: Kinkaid, Schultz, Njoku

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Re: ARob v Javonte Williams

Postby punintended » Wed May 05, 2021 4:51 pm

Zero chance I trade my arob for 1.10.

With your team and lack of WR depth even less of a chance I would do that. He’s criminally underrated and no Dalton and Fields are significantly better than anyone he’s played with.

Rookie fever is alive and well.

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Re: ARob v Javonte Williams

Postby Madcity_matt » Wed May 05, 2021 4:56 pm

Adam_172 wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 6:38 am Thanks guys, I must admit, I thought i'd see a 80% + split in ARob's favor.

Do you think i'm trying to push too much if I ask him to add a 2022 2nd?

So, ARob for Javonte + 2022 2nd
absolutely try for it

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Re: ARob v Javonte Williams

Postby Adam_172 » Thu May 06, 2021 3:24 am

Thanks guys, love the comments. I'm gonna counter with the 2nd added.
TEAM 1
Dynasty PPR 1QB (12 Team League)

QB - Murray, Fields, Pickett, Howell.
RB - Gibbs, R. White, Swift, Javonte Williams, Charbonnet, Allegier, Tank Bigsby, Penny.
WR - Nacua, Dell, Hollywood, Jameson Williams, Burks, Mooney, Atwell, Melton, Phillips, Washington, Lazard.
TE - Ferguson, Mayer, Knox.
DEF - Bills, Vikings.

Rookie Picks: 1.02, 2.02, 3.02, 4.02 and 5.02.


TEAM 2
Dynasty PPR - SuperFlex and TE Prem. (16 teams)

QB - Prescott, Pickett, Ridder, Mariota, Mullins, Willis.
RB - Walker III, R. White, Montgomery, Singletary, R. Jones, Mack, Hull, Sermon.
WR - Adams, Higgins, Watson, Meyers, Gabe Davis, W. Robinson, Dotson, Raymond, ARob.
TE - McBride, H. Henry, B. Jordan, Bates, B. Hopkins.

Rookie Picks: 2.14 and 3.14.


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