Smash Accept?

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Which Side 12 team PPR

K. Allen, Lockett
12
43%
Ridley
16
57%
 
Total votes: 28

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Smash Accept?

Postby SStory93 » Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:57 am

Give: Allen and T. Lockett

for

Get: Ridley
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RB: Hall | Achane | Ekeler| Chubb | Kamara
WR: Hill | AJ Brown | Chase | Aiyuk
TE: Njoku | Waller

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RB: Bijan | Saquon | Ford
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Re: Smash Accept?

Postby Vcize » Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:57 am

Smash accept.
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Re: Smash Accept?

Postby Jigga94 » Thu Apr 22, 2021 9:00 am

I don't think it's a smash, but it's definitely an accept. Semantics.

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Re: Smash Accept?

Postby SStory93 » Thu Apr 22, 2021 9:03 am

Jigga94 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 9:00 am I don't think it's a smash, but it's definitely an accept. Semantics.
1 smash, 1 Yes, so far.
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QB: Hurts | Watson | Cousins
RB: Hall | Achane | Ekeler| Chubb | Kamara
WR: Hill | AJ Brown | Chase | Aiyuk
TE: Njoku | Waller

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12 Team PPR SuperFlex IDP

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RB: Bijan | Saquon | Ford
WR: Chase | Jefferson | AJ Brown | Metcalf | Puka | Collins
TE: Pitts | Freieemuth
DL: T. Watt
LB: White
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Re: Smash Accept?

Postby Gator Sens » Thu Apr 22, 2021 9:04 am

I like Ridley here, but I'm very high on him. I really like Allen too, so it's closer but age is on Ridley's side.

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Re: Smash Accept?

Postby SStory93 » Thu Apr 22, 2021 9:06 am

Gator Sens wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 9:04 am I like Ridley here, but I'm very high on him. I really like Allen too, so it's closer but age is on Ridley's side.
Not digging in to deep I was thinking Ridley was more on the 24-25 scale vs the 26-27. Do you think his production continues into his 30's?
12 Team PPR 2 Flex

QB: Hurts | Watson | Cousins
RB: Hall | Achane | Ekeler| Chubb | Kamara
WR: Hill | AJ Brown | Chase | Aiyuk
TE: Njoku | Waller

πŸ†: 2023


12 Team PPR SuperFlex IDP

QB: Hurts | Fields | Mayfield
RB: Bijan | Saquon | Ford
WR: Chase | Jefferson | AJ Brown | Metcalf | Puka | Collins
TE: Pitts | Freieemuth
DL: T. Watt
LB: White
DB: Adams | Kearse | Stingley

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Re: Smash Accept?

Postby Gator Sens » Thu Apr 22, 2021 9:09 am

SStory93 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 9:06 am
Gator Sens wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 9:04 am I like Ridley here, but I'm very high on him. I really like Allen too, so it's closer but age is on Ridley's side.
Not digging in to deep I was thinking Ridley was more on the 24-25 scale vs the 26-27. Do you think his production continues into his 30's?
I do. Ridley is an elite route runner with great hands and does not rely on speed for his production which helps the transition into age. He is similar to Allen in that sense. Ridley is easily a top 10 dynasty WR for me. I have a penchant for Alabama WR's though :D

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Re: Smash Accept?

Postby Jigga94 » Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:42 am

Gator Sens wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 9:09 am
SStory93 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 9:06 am
Gator Sens wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 9:04 am I like Ridley here, but I'm very high on him. I really like Allen too, so it's closer but age is on Ridley's side.
Not digging in to deep I was thinking Ridley was more on the 24-25 scale vs the 26-27. Do you think his production continues into his 30's?
I do. Ridley is an elite route runner with great hands and does not rely on speed for his production which helps the transition into age. He is similar to Allen in that sense. Ridley is easily a top 10 dynasty WR for me. I have a penchant for Alabama WR's though :D
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Re: Smash Accept?

Postby abloom » Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:47 am

Not that I'm a huge fan of Lockett, but give me Keenan here on a competitive team.

edit:
Last 3 years (1ppr)

Keenan Allen:
2020 - 249pts, WR 12
2019 - 261pts, WR 6
2018 - 262pts, WR 12

Lockett:
2020 - 265pts, WR8
2019 - 235pts, WR13
2018 - 222pts, WR16

Ridley:
2020 - 284pts, WR5
2019 - 197pts, WR27
2018 - 208pts, WR20

Do I expect Lockett's and Allen's production to fall off more than Ridley's over the next few years, sure. But I think the two together are more valuable as starters than Ridley + whoever else.

Edit 2:
First on the Keenan side. Go Keenan go, catch up to that "smash accept" ridley side.
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Re: Smash Accept?

Postby PR0v3 » Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:15 pm

This is a smash reject for me.
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Re: Smash Accept?

Postby shiningaxl » Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:31 pm

I would rather have Keenan over the next two years. He is criminal underrated but especially with Herbert at the helm he should be able to maintain value. If you are not competing in the next two years then take the Ridley sides I guess but I wouldn't say its a smash accept.
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Re: Smash Accept?

Postby dblj1199 » Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:45 pm

In a rebuild I'd take Ridley, but I'd want more in return for the two wr's. If I'm a team that is competing I'd want the two wr's here.
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Re: Smash Accept?

Postby Huddle3233 » Thu Apr 22, 2021 3:45 pm

Depends on roster- but its Ridley side easy for me.

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Re: Smash Accept?

Postby Anteaters » Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:03 pm

abloom wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:47 am Not that I'm a huge fan of Lockett, but give me Keenan here on a competitive team.
Nice stats and research.

I'm big on Keenan, but I'm bigger on Ridley.

I see Ridley as a Top6Wr for the next few years, while I see Keenan as more of a WR8-18 for the next few years. I admit I have nothing but gut feeling to go on for this. Otherwise, Keenan+Lockett looks great. I'd love to have shares in Lockett on my teams.

I think Ridley is the best asset of the three, but I can't present a fact-based argument against the fact that Keenan+Lockett is a better value.
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Re: Smash Accept?

Postby halfbaked88 » Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:06 pm

Keenan & Lockett. I think this is a classic dynasty case of overvaluing youth when you have 2 very solid WRs for 1... Of course I may be overconfident in being able to retool my WRs through the draft longterm... But if I'm able to fill my roster with players like K. Allen and Lockett I'm excited and hopefully making a run for the championship.

If I'm a bottom half team then I can see taking Ridley here.


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