The rookie SF 1.03 dilemma...

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The rookie SF 1.03 dilemma...

Postby ligma » Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:44 am

Hello everyone. I have a tough decision to make for not just one team, but two teams. Both leagues are 12-team SF 0.5PPR, one with a slight TE premium (1PPR instead of 0.5 for Team 2). I have managed to have the 1.03 rookie pick in both.

Team 1 is an orphaned team in a complete rebuild with few assets, while team 2 is in decent shape and could find itself in a win-now situation with a few moves (I will list the team builds at the bottom of this post).

With this years draft class it seems the consensus is to draft Lawrence at 1.01 and Fields at 1.02 (if either of these two fall I fully intend on drafting them with either team). But pick 1.03 is completely up in the air.

What I am asking you all is what would you do with 1.03? Would you pick Wilson? Chase? RB? Hell, Pitts (would be tough to convince me when he could be around mid-late first)?

For Team 1, I am leaning towards this order of preference.....
Chase > Wilson > Harris/Etn (depends entirely on draft location)
With the WR depth, I still lean Chase at the top and another WR either late 1st or early 2nd...


For Team 2, I lean towards...
Harris/Etn > Wilson > Chase
RB is a need for me and I am not sure the value of the other options outweigh that need. Though, I hope williams falls to 1.09...



Do you agree with these or would you recommend something different? All opinions are appreciated!




Only notable player mentioned below...

Team 1:
QB: Herbert, Newton, Stidham
RB: Swift, Ekeler (trade block), Harris, Cohen
WR: Pittman, Ruggs, TreQuan Smith, Coutee (YUCK to this position)
TE: Hockenson, Tonyan
2021 picks: 1.03, 1.11, 2.03, 3.03

Team 2:
QB: Dak, Tua, Fitz, Kyle Allen
RB: Aaron Jones, Dillon, Lindsay,
WR: Cooper, Aiyuk, Chark, Diontae Johnson, Tyler Boyd, Robby Anderson, Lazard
TE: Gesicki, Everett
2021 picks: 1.03, 1.09, 2.03, 4.03

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Re: The rookie SF 1.03 dilemma...

Postby Jigga94 » Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:48 am

Going through the same thing for my team 2 with 1.03. I agree Lawrence and Fields are the top 2 for me as of now.

I think you take Wilson on team 1 for the rebuild. I wouldn't argue with Chase though.

Team 2 should be the same, but the RB need is glaring so I would be mulling Wilson/Chase/Harris.

You could always move down in either if you are ok with a few players.

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Re: The rookie SF 1.03 dilemma...

Postby Gator Sens » Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:50 am

Team 1, I would be looking to lock up the best QB available for long term hope in a full SF rebuild or trading out for a haul.

BPA for team 2. Tua is risky long term and you have holes to fill at most positions, so BPA seems the best way to go or trading back for a later 1st+.

I would make the picks available in both leagues. It never hurts to shop just in case a great deal is out there.

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Re: The rookie SF 1.03 dilemma...

Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:01 am

I'd try to trade back in both leagues in a rebuild if Trevor and Fields are gone and still grab a QB since I'm not sold on any NYJ QB. But if pressed to make a decision I'd take Wilson in both leagues. I know you need RB in the 2nd league but it's not worth reaching and you aren't contending even with an RB.

You could trade back if you get good value anywhere though
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr

11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)

Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White

Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez

Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo

Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker

24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5

Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE

Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning

JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker

Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,

Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins


24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5

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Re: The rookie SF 1.03 dilemma...

Postby CGW » Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:10 am

Team 1, I for sure would be considering the best remaining QB. In SF, it will never be cheaper to land a starting QB than the draft. I'd then use the rest of your picks on WR dart throws.

Team 2, a little more flexibility here as you dont have glaring holes. Take BPA. For me, that probably still ends up being a QB, but maybe not. I could also see Harris, ETN, Chase, or Pitts depending on landing spots.

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Re: The rookie SF 1.03 dilemma...

Postby abloom » Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:15 am

I think 1.03 either has to be a QB or your trade back. If you ask what QB I think it ultimately depends where they land. If lance ends up in SF Id snap him up at 1.03. Wilson I would try to avoid (assuming he is on the NYJ). I guess really what I'm saying is, if Lance ends up in a good spot, I want lance at 1.03, otherwise I want to trade back because I don't want to take one of the QBs that high and I'm losing value if I select a position player. Starting requirements (if hefty) could also swing this to Pitts especially in the TEP league.
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01

Team #5 4th
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009

Team #6 orphan
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07

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Re: The rookie SF 1.03 dilemma...

Postby joeday » Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:01 am

Are you sure Fields goes at 2? With all the draftniks seemingly souring on him it may filter down to fantasy drafters as well. I agree he should be pick 2 in a SF league but you never know how people react to things like that. That said, I really think I would take whichever QB the 49ers take if he is available. Give me the guy going into a great system with a great coach and great weapons that cost a ton of draft capital. I honestly kinda think they should take Lance since he would be a project and with the 9ers financially attached to Jimmy G they could let Lance sit and learn for a season. But if it is Mac Jones like everyone seems to think, thats fine too. The 9ers feel very bama-ish too me...a great system, great OL, great skill position players, and don't ask their QBs to do a ton.
BERLIN BOMBERS (0 – 0)
1996 | 2005 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014 | 2017 – 🏆
1999 | 2000 | 2019 | 2020 – 🥈

14 team | 4 keepers | non ppr | est. 1996
QB –
RB – Christian McCaffrey | Josh Jacobs
WR – AJ Brown | CeeDee Lamb
TE –

ROCKY MOUNTAIN MASTODONS (0 – 0)
2011 | 2013 | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2020 – 🏆
2008 | 2012 | 2014 | 2019 – 🥈

12 team | 10 keepers | non ppr | est. 2001
QB – Joe Burrow
RB – Tony Pollard | Kenneth Walker III | Rhamondre Stevenson
WR – Justin Jefferson | Stefon Diggs | DK Metcalf | Tee Higgins | Jameson Williams
TE – Trey McBride

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Re: The rookie SF 1.03 dilemma...

Postby ligma » Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:12 am

Appreciate all the insight everyone.

Seems like the most popular opinion is Team 1 is QB and team 2 is BPA. I also share the concerns with NYJ and Wilson but I second guess myself and think that thought is just a matter of NYJ recency bias. Will probably end up taking him for team 1 unless Chase ends up in an ideal situation. Team 2 is going to be a tricky on the clock situation.

I will definitely be shopping both picks when on the board but I plan to wait as if Fields falls I will immediately pick him without hesitation since I believe he is a special player. I really hope someone wants to overpay in either league for 1.03 with a later 1st and a future pick...

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Re: The rookie SF 1.03 dilemma...

Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:14 am

NYJ problems start at the very top and filter down is the issue
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr

11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)

Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White

Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez

Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo

Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker

24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5

Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE

Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning

JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker

Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,

Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins


24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5

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Re: The rookie SF 1.03 dilemma...

Postby ligma » Thu Apr 22, 2021 9:56 am

Right but my thought is a new coach and a new QB could help sway the tides in the right direction...as someone who loves using the Jets as a punchline, trying to talk myself into them as a functional organization is tough

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Re: The rookie SF 1.03 dilemma...

Postby yinzername » Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:55 am

Team 1 I would go; QB3 (and hope it’s Shannahan’s guy), WR, WR

Team 2 I would go; BPA, BPA, BPA and honestly wouldn’t fault you for whoever you feel those guys might be at any of the picks you have
SF - PPR - 12t - start10
Notable Assets in Rebuild
QB: Mahomes - Levis - Rudolph
RB: K Mitchell - J McLaughlin - C Rodriguez - Z Evans
WR: AJB - M Pittman- R Doubs - E Moore - Shaheed - C Tillman- A Iosivas
TE: MAndrews - Kraft
'24: 1.1, 1.7, 2.1, 2.6, 2.10, 3.1, 3.10
‘25: 1 1st, 2 2nds, 2 3rds

2nd year DFF
SF - PPR - 12t - start10
QB: TLaw - Purdy - Goff
RB: Chubb - D Montgomery - D Singletary - A Mattison - K Miller - J Hill
WR: CeeDee - Aiyuk - Rice - Godwin - J Reed - E Moore
TE: Kittle - Kincaid - Chig
picks: 1.09, 2.11

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Re: The rookie SF 1.03 dilemma...

Postby murphysxm » Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:36 am

Team 1 is abslutely Wilson IMO. Special players rise a team, he has that potential.

For team 2, the TE premium doesn't put Pitts over Chase for me. I wouldn't take a RB at all here. Trading back does make sense, but not too far, 1.03 is a premium pick this year if somebody seems somevody as their guy after the top two QB's go.
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