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The DLF analyzer has this offer way in my favor (+180) but it's not generating the warm fuzzies on my end.
Everything I've heard so far is that the 2022 class is less than this year's and this would be a late pick based on his team having been in the playoffs 3 out of the last 4 and also the 2018 champ. Kirk would be a bye week player for him as he is set at WR with Adams, Evans. and Moore for starters plus Aiyuk, Shenault, Hamler, Hardman, and Reagor waiting.
Kirk should improve hopefully this year with AJG there to allow him more time in the slot but I still think of him as being the maybe #2 target at best (I have Kirk on one other team so I'm keeping my fingers crossed).
The 1.07 has good potential this year with everyone from maybe Pitts, Javonte, Bateman or Rondale being available at that point. I am weak on WR's so the need for a solid one is there but I just don't see enough value with this offer no matter what the analyzer claims. My league's calculator has the deal about even. He has no early picks for this season to give starting only with a late 3rd.
Any Kirk lovers (or haters) out there? Any thoughts on possible counters? Thx as always.
Kirk plus 2022 1st for my 1.07?
Kirk plus 2022 1st for my 1.07?
12 team/PPR
1
QB - Mahomes
RB- Jacobs, Pierce, Penny, Mostert, Singletary, Wilson, Mckinnon, Moss, Foreman, Mitchell
WR - Kupp, Waddle, Lockett, Marquise Brown, OBJ
TE - Kincaid
2021/2012 league champion
2
QB - Dak, GSmith
RB - Swift, Mattison, White, Mostert, Gibbs, Foreman, Mitchell, D. Cook
WR - AJB, Kupp, Kirk, C.Samuel, JWilliams, OBJ, Ross
TE - Kittle, Ferguson
3
QB - Allen, Tua
RB - Kamara, AJones, Walker, Chandler, Pierce, Akers, JWilliams, Jaleel M., Mitchell
WR - Adams, Hopkins, Lockett, J. Watson
TE - Kraft, Dulcich
4
QB - Allen, Burrow (IR)
RB - CMC, Kamara, Stevenson, J.Cook, Foreman, J.Wilson, Jaleel, Mitchell
WR - Diggs, Jeudy, Aiyuk, ARSB, MWilliams Mooney, Downs, N. Brown
TE - Kincaid, Engram
2023 league champion
5
QB - Mahomes, Cousins
RB - Chubb, AJones, Akers, Foreman, Moss, Penny, Jaleel, Mitchell, Gray
WR - Adams, MThomas, Waddle, GDavis, Mooney, JWilliams, Downs, Dell, Skyy, Ross
TE - Goedert
1
QB - Mahomes
RB- Jacobs, Pierce, Penny, Mostert, Singletary, Wilson, Mckinnon, Moss, Foreman, Mitchell
WR - Kupp, Waddle, Lockett, Marquise Brown, OBJ
TE - Kincaid
2021/2012 league champion
2
QB - Dak, GSmith
RB - Swift, Mattison, White, Mostert, Gibbs, Foreman, Mitchell, D. Cook
WR - AJB, Kupp, Kirk, C.Samuel, JWilliams, OBJ, Ross
TE - Kittle, Ferguson
3
QB - Allen, Tua
RB - Kamara, AJones, Walker, Chandler, Pierce, Akers, JWilliams, Jaleel M., Mitchell
WR - Adams, Hopkins, Lockett, J. Watson
TE - Kraft, Dulcich
4
QB - Allen, Burrow (IR)
RB - CMC, Kamara, Stevenson, J.Cook, Foreman, J.Wilson, Jaleel, Mitchell
WR - Diggs, Jeudy, Aiyuk, ARSB, MWilliams Mooney, Downs, N. Brown
TE - Kincaid, Engram
2023 league champion
5
QB - Mahomes, Cousins
RB - Chubb, AJones, Akers, Foreman, Moss, Penny, Jaleel, Mitchell, Gray
WR - Adams, MThomas, Waddle, GDavis, Mooney, JWilliams, Downs, Dell, Skyy, Ross
TE - Goedert
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Re: Kirk plus 2022 1st for my 1.07?
I like Kirk and think he is a fine buy low, but this is not a buy low. He did not show a ton last year and looks pretty boom or bust. I would hold the 1.07 here pretty easily.
Re: Kirk plus 2022 1st for my 1.07?
I don't like this offer at all. Replace Kirk with Shenault and I'd strongly consider it.
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09
TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04
TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
2022 1st, 2nd (2), 3rd (2)
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09
TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04
TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
2022 1st, 2nd (2), 3rd (2)
Re: Kirk plus 2022 1st for my 1.07?
Your reply cam in as I wrote this. Thought about Shenault as a counter as well.
I'm seeing estimates on Captain Kirk's value being between a mid to late 2nd. He only had the single big 100+ yd game last season with 6 TD's clustered in the middle of the year. It's hard to predict who might slip down to the 1.07 but I'd rather hang onto that and maybe even hope for a draft day offer to move up.
Originally I thought about offering the 1.07 plus one of my RB's (team 1) for the 1.01 or 1.02 but feel that's a bit too much even for Chase or Harris.
I'm seeing estimates on Captain Kirk's value being between a mid to late 2nd. He only had the single big 100+ yd game last season with 6 TD's clustered in the middle of the year. It's hard to predict who might slip down to the 1.07 but I'd rather hang onto that and maybe even hope for a draft day offer to move up.
Originally I thought about offering the 1.07 plus one of my RB's (team 1) for the 1.01 or 1.02 but feel that's a bit too much even for Chase or Harris.
12 team/PPR
1
QB - Mahomes
RB- Jacobs, Pierce, Penny, Mostert, Singletary, Wilson, Mckinnon, Moss, Foreman, Mitchell
WR - Kupp, Waddle, Lockett, Marquise Brown, OBJ
TE - Kincaid
2021/2012 league champion
2
QB - Dak, GSmith
RB - Swift, Mattison, White, Mostert, Gibbs, Foreman, Mitchell, D. Cook
WR - AJB, Kupp, Kirk, C.Samuel, JWilliams, OBJ, Ross
TE - Kittle, Ferguson
3
QB - Allen, Tua
RB - Kamara, AJones, Walker, Chandler, Pierce, Akers, JWilliams, Jaleel M., Mitchell
WR - Adams, Hopkins, Lockett, J. Watson
TE - Kraft, Dulcich
4
QB - Allen, Burrow (IR)
RB - CMC, Kamara, Stevenson, J.Cook, Foreman, J.Wilson, Jaleel, Mitchell
WR - Diggs, Jeudy, Aiyuk, ARSB, MWilliams Mooney, Downs, N. Brown
TE - Kincaid, Engram
2023 league champion
5
QB - Mahomes, Cousins
RB - Chubb, AJones, Akers, Foreman, Moss, Penny, Jaleel, Mitchell, Gray
WR - Adams, MThomas, Waddle, GDavis, Mooney, JWilliams, Downs, Dell, Skyy, Ross
TE - Goedert
1
QB - Mahomes
RB- Jacobs, Pierce, Penny, Mostert, Singletary, Wilson, Mckinnon, Moss, Foreman, Mitchell
WR - Kupp, Waddle, Lockett, Marquise Brown, OBJ
TE - Kincaid
2021/2012 league champion
2
QB - Dak, GSmith
RB - Swift, Mattison, White, Mostert, Gibbs, Foreman, Mitchell, D. Cook
WR - AJB, Kupp, Kirk, C.Samuel, JWilliams, OBJ, Ross
TE - Kittle, Ferguson
3
QB - Allen, Tua
RB - Kamara, AJones, Walker, Chandler, Pierce, Akers, JWilliams, Jaleel M., Mitchell
WR - Adams, Hopkins, Lockett, J. Watson
TE - Kraft, Dulcich
4
QB - Allen, Burrow (IR)
RB - CMC, Kamara, Stevenson, J.Cook, Foreman, J.Wilson, Jaleel, Mitchell
WR - Diggs, Jeudy, Aiyuk, ARSB, MWilliams Mooney, Downs, N. Brown
TE - Kincaid, Engram
2023 league champion
5
QB - Mahomes, Cousins
RB - Chubb, AJones, Akers, Foreman, Moss, Penny, Jaleel, Mitchell, Gray
WR - Adams, MThomas, Waddle, GDavis, Mooney, JWilliams, Downs, Dell, Skyy, Ross
TE - Goedert
Re: Kirk plus 2022 1st for my 1.07?
About 2 minutes after I declined the original offer, he countered by adding Hardman to the mix, another flex or bye replacement for his team.
12 team/PPR
1
QB - Mahomes
RB- Jacobs, Pierce, Penny, Mostert, Singletary, Wilson, Mckinnon, Moss, Foreman, Mitchell
WR - Kupp, Waddle, Lockett, Marquise Brown, OBJ
TE - Kincaid
2021/2012 league champion
2
QB - Dak, GSmith
RB - Swift, Mattison, White, Mostert, Gibbs, Foreman, Mitchell, D. Cook
WR - AJB, Kupp, Kirk, C.Samuel, JWilliams, OBJ, Ross
TE - Kittle, Ferguson
3
QB - Allen, Tua
RB - Kamara, AJones, Walker, Chandler, Pierce, Akers, JWilliams, Jaleel M., Mitchell
WR - Adams, Hopkins, Lockett, J. Watson
TE - Kraft, Dulcich
4
QB - Allen, Burrow (IR)
RB - CMC, Kamara, Stevenson, J.Cook, Foreman, J.Wilson, Jaleel, Mitchell
WR - Diggs, Jeudy, Aiyuk, ARSB, MWilliams Mooney, Downs, N. Brown
TE - Kincaid, Engram
2023 league champion
5
QB - Mahomes, Cousins
RB - Chubb, AJones, Akers, Foreman, Moss, Penny, Jaleel, Mitchell, Gray
WR - Adams, MThomas, Waddle, GDavis, Mooney, JWilliams, Downs, Dell, Skyy, Ross
TE - Goedert
1
QB - Mahomes
RB- Jacobs, Pierce, Penny, Mostert, Singletary, Wilson, Mckinnon, Moss, Foreman, Mitchell
WR - Kupp, Waddle, Lockett, Marquise Brown, OBJ
TE - Kincaid
2021/2012 league champion
2
QB - Dak, GSmith
RB - Swift, Mattison, White, Mostert, Gibbs, Foreman, Mitchell, D. Cook
WR - AJB, Kupp, Kirk, C.Samuel, JWilliams, OBJ, Ross
TE - Kittle, Ferguson
3
QB - Allen, Tua
RB - Kamara, AJones, Walker, Chandler, Pierce, Akers, JWilliams, Jaleel M., Mitchell
WR - Adams, Hopkins, Lockett, J. Watson
TE - Kraft, Dulcich
4
QB - Allen, Burrow (IR)
RB - CMC, Kamara, Stevenson, J.Cook, Foreman, J.Wilson, Jaleel, Mitchell
WR - Diggs, Jeudy, Aiyuk, ARSB, MWilliams Mooney, Downs, N. Brown
TE - Kincaid, Engram
2023 league champion
5
QB - Mahomes, Cousins
RB - Chubb, AJones, Akers, Foreman, Moss, Penny, Jaleel, Mitchell, Gray
WR - Adams, MThomas, Waddle, GDavis, Mooney, JWilliams, Downs, Dell, Skyy, Ross
TE - Goedert
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Re: Kirk plus 2022 1st for my 1.07?
again no on that too.
PW league - 10 tm Dynasty league-Roster/Keep 28 - Pass:1/20 3pt TD; Run/Rec:1/10 6pt TD; no ppr; no neg pts
st:1 qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, 1 te, 1 k, 1 d, no flex
QB - TLaw, Tua, JimmyG
RB - Chubb, Javonte, Perine, Jaleel, BRob, Moss, Bigsby, RoJo (Chi), Tucker, C-Rod, Chase, Spiller, Zamir
WR - Addison, Godwin, Nico, Gabe, Zay Jones, Mooney, Hyatt, Tillman
TE - Kincaid, Kraft
PK -Tucker
Def - 49ers
Picks: 2024 - 1-7, add’l 3rd; 2025 - 1-7
E league - 14 team-can keep up to 9 but keeper round moves up 1 each year, no 1st or 2nd round players can be kept; number is parens = next year’s keeper round; * = player was kept for 2023
Pass 1/20, 4pt TD, Run/Rec 1/10, 6pt TD, 1ppr, Fum/Int = -1, other scoring is pretty regular
QB - Jimmy G(*16), Purdy(*9), Stafford(12)
RB - D-Mont, AJ Dillon, Lenny(17), Carter (19), D’Onta(9), P Taylor
WR - JJeff(3), Adams(*4), Godwin(*8), MWill(*5), OBJ(*13), Woods, Hyatt(10), Tillman(18)
TE - PatF(6), Mayer(10)
PK - Moody
Def - TBB
st:1 qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, 1 te, 1 k, 1 d, no flex
QB - TLaw, Tua, JimmyG
RB - Chubb, Javonte, Perine, Jaleel, BRob, Moss, Bigsby, RoJo (Chi), Tucker, C-Rod, Chase, Spiller, Zamir
WR - Addison, Godwin, Nico, Gabe, Zay Jones, Mooney, Hyatt, Tillman
TE - Kincaid, Kraft
PK -Tucker
Def - 49ers
Picks: 2024 - 1-7, add’l 3rd; 2025 - 1-7
E league - 14 team-can keep up to 9 but keeper round moves up 1 each year, no 1st or 2nd round players can be kept; number is parens = next year’s keeper round; * = player was kept for 2023
Pass 1/20, 4pt TD, Run/Rec 1/10, 6pt TD, 1ppr, Fum/Int = -1, other scoring is pretty regular
QB - Jimmy G(*16), Purdy(*9), Stafford(12)
RB - D-Mont, AJ Dillon, Lenny(17), Carter (19), D’Onta(9), P Taylor
WR - JJeff(3), Adams(*4), Godwin(*8), MWill(*5), OBJ(*13), Woods, Hyatt(10), Tillman(18)
TE - PatF(6), Mayer(10)
PK - Moody
Def - TBB