Trade 2021 first for 2 2022 firsts?

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Trade 2021 first for 2 2022 firsts?

Postby MyTeam » Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:51 pm

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Major rebuild. Received an offer of 1.04 for 2 2022 firsts.

One first is from a mid team (5-9) but the other is from a team with a build similar to mine. Should be a top 4 pick next year.
Last edited by MyTeam on Tue Apr 13, 2021 4:04 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Team 1: 12 team, PPR
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex

Mahomes, Lawrence
Najee, Swift, Javonte, Jamaal W, Murray
DK, DJM, Juju, Jameson, Gallup, Van
Pitts, Friermuth
1.01, 1.04, 1.11, 1.12, 3.10, 2 firsts next year

Team 2: 12 Team, SF TEP (1.5 PPR)
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex, 1 SF

Mahomes, Burrow, Cousins, Rudolph
CEH, Swift, Gibson, Jacobs, Mattison, Scott, McFarland
DK, AJB, Ridley, McLaurin, Kupp, Landry, Mims, Hamler, Miller, Johnson, Robinson
Andrews, H. Henry, Sternberger, Alie-Cox, Herndon

Same as Team 2
Watson, Burrow, Lance, Z. Wilson
Pollard, Mattison
Chase, D. Smith, Boyd, Hardman, E. Moore, Cephus, A. Rodgers, Harry, Boykin, A. Tate, Miller
Hockenson, Thomas, Albert O, Njoku
3 additional firsts

Same as Team 2
TLaw, Burrow, Watson, Darnold
CEH, Gus, Cohen
Juju, Chark, Shenault, Boyd, Landry, Renfrow, Robinson,
Engram, Kmet, Firkser, Schultz, Arnold, Herndon
5 additional firsts

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Re: Trade 2021 first for 2 2022 firsts?

Postby Gator Sens » Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:54 pm

Your rebuild looks to be off to a great start based on your build for team 2. I would rather hold the known early 1st. I can see the value but picks are tough to predict a year out no matter how obvious they seem.

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Re: Trade 2021 first for 2 2022 firsts?

Postby MyTeam » Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:55 pm

Gator Sens wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:54 pm Your rebuild looks to be off to a great start based on your build for team 2. I would rather hold the known early 1st. I can see the value but picks are tough to predict a year out no matter how obvious they seem.
Sorry, It is for team 3 not team 2! Team 2 was my rebuild project this year so I am just so used to saying team 2 for a rebuild!
Team 1: 12 team, PPR
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex

Mahomes, Lawrence
Najee, Swift, Javonte, Jamaal W, Murray
DK, DJM, Juju, Jameson, Gallup, Van
Pitts, Friermuth
1.01, 1.04, 1.11, 1.12, 3.10, 2 firsts next year

Team 2: 12 Team, SF TEP (1.5 PPR)
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex, 1 SF

Mahomes, Burrow, Cousins, Rudolph
CEH, Swift, Gibson, Jacobs, Mattison, Scott, McFarland
DK, AJB, Ridley, McLaurin, Kupp, Landry, Mims, Hamler, Miller, Johnson, Robinson
Andrews, H. Henry, Sternberger, Alie-Cox, Herndon

Same as Team 2
Watson, Burrow, Lance, Z. Wilson
Pollard, Mattison
Chase, D. Smith, Boyd, Hardman, E. Moore, Cephus, A. Rodgers, Harry, Boykin, A. Tate, Miller
Hockenson, Thomas, Albert O, Njoku
3 additional firsts

Same as Team 2
TLaw, Burrow, Watson, Darnold
CEH, Gus, Cohen
Juju, Chark, Shenault, Boyd, Landry, Renfrow, Robinson,
Engram, Kmet, Firkser, Schultz, Arnold, Herndon
5 additional firsts

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Re: Trade 2021 first for 2 2022 firsts?

Postby Gator Sens » Tue Apr 13, 2021 4:00 pm

MyTeam wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:55 pm
Gator Sens wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:54 pm Your rebuild looks to be off to a great start based on your build for team 2. I would rather hold the known early 1st. I can see the value but picks are tough to predict a year out no matter how obvious they seem.
Sorry, It is for team 3 not team 2! Team 2 was my rebuild project this year so I am just so used to saying team 2 for a rebuild!
Got it. I still like the known early pick, but this team needs a lot of help so I would make the deal if you could get a young piece added on top of the picks.

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Re: Trade 2021 first for 2 2022 firsts?

Postby Jigga94 » Tue Apr 13, 2021 4:07 pm

Agree with Gator. Another piece would help me make this deal. Otherwise you likely take Wilson/Fields, Chase/Pitts and still have 8 and 11. You'll probably be 0 RB for another year but that's not a huge deal

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Re: Trade 2021 first for 2 2022 firsts?

Postby SoftwoodGrampian » Tue Apr 13, 2021 6:55 pm

I can’t get the 1.12 (or better) for a future (rando) 1st.
Single QB albeit
To use that as a guide, I think two future rando 1sts still doesn’t get you to the 1.04 this year

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Re: Trade 2021 first for 2 2022 firsts?

Postby Needalife » Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:35 pm

Nope. Stay put. with 3 and 4 you either go RB/RB or Chase/RB or sub in Pitts into one of those scenarios. This year's picks can really start shaping this team. Start the build now and don't push it off for another year.
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1 Q / 2 RB / 2 WR / 1 TE / 1 SF / 3 F / 1 DT / 2 DE / 3 LB / 2 CB / 2 S / 1 F


QB: Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawrence
RB: Zamir White, Jaylen Warren, James Conner, Raheem Mostert
WR: Michael Pittman, Puka Nacua, Drake London, Marquise Brown, Christian Kirk, Josh Palmer
TE: Trey McBride, Jake Ferguson, Noah Gray
PK: Justin Tucker, Jason Myers
DT: Aaron Donald, Grover Stewart, Devonte Wyatt
DE: Alex Highsmith, Jonathan Cooper, Gregory Rousseau, Matt Judon, Baron Browning
LB: Fred Warner, Dre Greenlaw, Ernest Jones, Alex Anzalone, Jack Campbell
CB: L'Jarius Sneed, Deommodore Lenoir, Taron Johnson
S: Derwin James, Rayshawn Jenkins, Talanoa Hufanga, Kareem Jackson
DEVY: RB Trey Benson FSU, RB Will Shipley Clemson
2024 DEVY DEPLETED PICKS: 1.03, 1.11, 1.13, 2.03, 2.05, 2.13, 3.01, 3.07, 3.10, 3.12, 4.03, 4.11, 4.15, 5.01, 5.13

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Re: Trade 2021 first for 2 2022 firsts?

Postby atlmoneyman » Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:24 pm

1.04 all the way

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Re: Trade 2021 first for 2 2022 firsts?

Postby krtbuckeye » Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:19 am

I would hold 1.04 pretty easily in SF.
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Start: QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, SF, FLX (RB/WR), K, 2 DL, LB, 2 DB, 2 IDP FLX

**IDP scoring is TKL heavy (1.0 solo and asst), no QBH or TFL.**

QB: Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts
RB: Jahmyr Gibbs, D’Andre Swift, Jerome Ford, Khalil Herbert, Jaleel McLaughlin, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Isaiah Spiller, Chase Brown, Evan Hull (IR), Sean Tucker
WR: Amon-Ra St. Brown, DeVonta Smith, Tee Higgins, Jordan Addison, Jaxon Smith-Njigba, Josh Palmer, Demario Douglas, Alec Pierce, Michael Wilson, Jalin Hyatt, Kayshon Boutte (Taxi)
TE: Sam LaPorta, Trey McBride
K: Jake Elliott
DL: Danielle Hunter, Aiden Hutchinson, Jaelan Phillips (IR)
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Re: Trade 2021 first for 2 2022 firsts?

Postby dblj1199 » Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:54 am

With both the 1.3 and 1.4 I'm holding and looking to see who is there. Possibly rookie fever hits when your on the clock with the 1.4 and they will pay up more for the pick.
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Qb- Mahomes, Prudy, Baker
RB- S Barkley, Pollard, B Hall, K Herbert, D Foreman, R Johnson, Zeke, J Robinson, Z White, J Wilson(i.r.), J McKinnon, J Mason, J Hill
WR- J Jefferson, Deebo, DJ Moore, OBJ, S Moore, J Jennings, C Austin, Trey Palmer
TE- Andrews, Higbee, Dulchich, Ferguson, D Washington
IDP(3)- P Queen,D Perryman, J Jewell, J Campbell, N Dean (i.r.)
K- E McPherson, Butker

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2025- 3, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Trade 2021 first for 2 2022 firsts?

Postby CL3VELANDBR0WNS » Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:05 am

I would probably even reject that in a standard league.
I'm pretty confident that Lawrence, Chase, Harris, and Pitts will be better than any prospect next year in a SF TE premium format.... possibly by a lot.

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Re: Trade 2021 first for 2 2022 firsts?

Postby DYNASTY BALLA$ » Wed Apr 14, 2021 12:25 pm

Given the state of Team 3, I am most likely trading the 1.04 for as much as I can get and I would also suggest the same for the 1.03. Most importantly though, I would wait until you are OTC before trading those picks unless you get offered a ridiculous offer that you can't turn down (aka a King's ransom). That is when the picks will be the most valuable as someone (or multiple owners) will be salivating for whoever is currently available at 1.03 and 1.04 especially in a SF league.

I say trade out because of the state of your team. You only have two QB and one of them is DeShaun Watson who likely could be suspended this year. The other is Joe Burrow who is coming off an ACL. That alone could easily help your team suffer defeats all year, thus resulting in you obtaining the 1.01 next year, which will also be worth a boat load of picks as well.

Your RB squad is nearly non-existent and your WR/TE squads are just okay.

If it's me, I'm melting those 1.03 and 1.04 down into as many 1st rounders and young/upside starters as you can get. Maybe the guy will give you a young/upside QB plus the two 2022's for the 1.04, just a thought. I'd also try to trade Pollard and Mattison to the Zeke and Cook owners for 2nd round picks in 2022 if they won't give you 2021 2nd's. Either way you need to completely rebuild. Adding studs to a mediocre roster will take years to build, in the meantime you're donating your time and money. I've burned down and rebuilt a few teams and it's much better than using the 1.03, or 1.04 etc this year and still sucking. Plus if you have too many upside players on a bad team it will prevent you from obtaining the 1.01 or 1.02 next year which should be something you want to keep in mind if you are rebuilding. Ideally you want the 1.01/1.02 yourself with as many other 1st and 2nd rounders for next year. Then you can effectively rebuild, or you can trade those picks into a competitive team, depending on what your goals are.
FFPC $2500 #6 ~ 12 team PPR/QB/TE1.5
QB: Josh Allen
RB: CMC, Zeke, Spears, Mattison, Justice Hill
WR: Kupp, Tyreek, Diggs, DSmith, MWilliams
TE: Andrews, Ferguson

FFPC $2500 #5 ~ 12 team PPR/QB/TE1.5 (2021 Champ)
QB: Josh Allen
RB: CMC, Jacobs, Ekeler, Monty, Achane,
WR: Kupp, Pittman, Amari, Ridley, Lockett
TE: Andrews, Ferguson

FFPC $750 #46 ~ 12 team PPR/QB/TE1.5
QB: Mahomes
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, Saquon, Kyren, Javonte
WR: Tyreek, Kupp, Waddle, Wan'Dale
TE: Hock, LaPorta

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Re: Trade 2021 first for 2 2022 firsts?

Postby MyTeam » Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:17 pm

DYNASTY BALLA$ wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 12:25 pm Given the state of Team 3, I am most likely trading the 1.04 for as much as I can get and I would also suggest the same for the 1.03. Most importantly though, I would wait until you are OTC before trading those picks unless you get offered a ridiculous offer that you can't turn down (aka a King's ransom). That is when the picks will be the most valuable as someone (or multiple owners) will be salivating for whoever is currently available at 1.03 and 1.04 especially in a SF league.

I say trade out because of the state of your team. You only have two QB and one of them is DeShaun Watson who likely could be suspended this year. The other is Joe Burrow who is coming off an ACL. That alone could easily help your team suffer defeats all year, thus resulting in you obtaining the 1.01 next year, which will also be worth a boat load of picks as well.

Your RB squad is nearly non-existent and your WR/TE squads are just okay.

If it's me, I'm melting those 1.03 and 1.04 down into as many 1st rounders and young/upside starters as you can get. Maybe the guy will give you a young/upside QB plus the two 2022's for the 1.04, just a thought. I'd also try to trade Pollard and Mattison to the Zeke and Cook owners for 2nd round picks in 2022 if they won't give you 2021 2nd's. Either way you need to completely rebuild. Adding studs to a mediocre roster will take years to build, in the meantime you're donating your time and money. I've burned down and rebuilt a few teams and it's much better than using the 1.03, or 1.04 etc this year and still sucking. Plus if you have too many upside players on a bad team it will prevent you from obtaining the 1.01 or 1.02 next year which should be something you want to keep in mind if you are rebuilding. Ideally you want the 1.01/1.02 yourself with as many other 1st and 2nd rounders for next year. Then you can effectively rebuild, or you can trade those picks into a competitive team, depending on what your goals are.
In the start up draft, I specifically avoided all RBs to tank my max PF to get 1.01 next year. I drafted handcuffs as leverage for a couple seconds. I knew this year was going to be a throw in so I went picks and youth. This league is full of people afraid to get burned by a trade right now so there is almost no movement. I sent offers during the start up and couldn't even lose value on trades to move up OR down.
Team 1: 12 team, PPR
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex

Mahomes, Lawrence
Najee, Swift, Javonte, Jamaal W, Murray
DK, DJM, Juju, Jameson, Gallup, Van
Pitts, Friermuth
1.01, 1.04, 1.11, 1.12, 3.10, 2 firsts next year

Team 2: 12 Team, SF TEP (1.5 PPR)
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex, 1 SF

Mahomes, Burrow, Cousins, Rudolph
CEH, Swift, Gibson, Jacobs, Mattison, Scott, McFarland
DK, AJB, Ridley, McLaurin, Kupp, Landry, Mims, Hamler, Miller, Johnson, Robinson
Andrews, H. Henry, Sternberger, Alie-Cox, Herndon

Same as Team 2
Watson, Burrow, Lance, Z. Wilson
Pollard, Mattison
Chase, D. Smith, Boyd, Hardman, E. Moore, Cephus, A. Rodgers, Harry, Boykin, A. Tate, Miller
Hockenson, Thomas, Albert O, Njoku
3 additional firsts

Same as Team 2
TLaw, Burrow, Watson, Darnold
CEH, Gus, Cohen
Juju, Chark, Shenault, Boyd, Landry, Renfrow, Robinson,
Engram, Kmet, Firkser, Schultz, Arnold, Herndon
5 additional firsts


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