Which side is better?

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Which one?

A. 2.10
8
44%
B. Darnell Mooney
10
56%
 
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Which side is better?

Postby NY CAT » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:29 pm

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Which would you rather have?

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Re: Which side is better?

Postby tsarpepe » Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:23 pm

Easily Mooney for me.

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Re: Which side is better?

Postby Gator Sens » Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:36 pm

Mooney for me.

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Re: Which side is better?

Postby DynastyDynasty » Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:53 pm

NY CAT wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:29 pm 12 team 1Qb
IDP league

Which would you rather have?
I'm also in a 12 team 1 Qb IDP league, Mooney is on our waiver wire. So, I'll take the 2.10.
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Re: Which side is better?

Postby StripesOfKC » Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:58 pm

I get selling Mooney but not for such a tiny return

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Re: Which side is better?

Postby Anteaters » Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:51 am

I'm not sure if I would unload Mooney to receive a 2.10, but I'm positive I would not trade a 2.10 to get Mooney.
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Re: Which side is better?

Postby abloom » Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:51 am

It depends how much idp and how far down that extends the value in the draft. As of right now I'd rather mooney over an uncertain rookie. During the draft I very easily may have someone at 2.10 that I would like to draft instead of keeping mooney
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Re: Which side is better?

Postby Jigga94 » Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:53 am

DynastyDynasty wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:53 pm
NY CAT wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:29 pm 12 team 1Qb
IDP league

Which would you rather have?
I'm also in a 12 team 1 Qb IDP league, Mooney is on our waiver wire. So, I'll take the 2.10.
The team in your sig? If so, I prefer Mooney to a few of those WR

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Re: Which side is better?

Postby DynastyDynasty » Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:33 pm

Jigga94 wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:53 am
DynastyDynasty wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:53 pm
NY CAT wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:29 pm 12 team 1Qb
IDP league

Which would you rather have?
I'm also in a 12 team 1 Qb IDP league, Mooney is on our waiver wire. So, I'll take the 2.10.
The team in your sig? If so, I prefer Mooney to a few of those WR
Yeah, the team in my sig. I'm all ears. I appreciate the input. What am I missing on Mooney? I don't see a guy I even need to roster when I watch him. But, I've been wrong before.
12 Team, PPR, TE Premium, IDP, 1RB, 1WR, 1TE, 3Flex, 1DL, 1LB, 1DB, 1Flex
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RB-McCaffrey,Kamara,J.Wilson,Jam.Williams,Hines,S.Perine,Hubbard
WR-Hill,Ridley,Golladay,Thielen,Godwin,Boyd,Hardman,Campbell,Coutee,Patrick
TE-Kittle,Pitts,Dwelley,Butler,Reyes
DL-Hunter,Ogbah,Graham,Q.Williams,Paye
LB-Leonard,Wagner,David,Reddick,Morrow,D.Davis,Thompson,W.Gay,Mosley
DB-Curl,Ryan,Clark,Phillips
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Re: Which side is better?

Postby krtbuckeye » Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:36 pm

I’d rather hold Mooney on upside rather than the dart throw at 2.10.
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Re: Which side is better?

Postby StripesOfKC » Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:38 pm

DynastyDynasty wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:33 pm
Jigga94 wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:53 am
DynastyDynasty wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:53 pm

I'm also in a 12 team 1 Qb IDP league, Mooney is on our waiver wire. So, I'll take the 2.10.
The team in your sig? If so, I prefer Mooney to a few of those WR
Yeah, the team in my sig. I'm all ears. I appreciate the input. What am I missing on Mooney? I don't see a guy I even need to roster when I watch him. But, I've been wrong before.
I mean...he had more yards as a rookie playing with Nick Foles and Mitch Trubisky than at least three of your WRs have had in a season their whole careers

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Re: Which side is better?

Postby DynastyDynasty » Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:43 pm

StripesOfKC wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:38 pm
DynastyDynasty wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:33 pm
Jigga94 wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:53 am

The team in your sig? If so, I prefer Mooney to a few of those WR
Yeah, the team in my sig. I'm all ears. I appreciate the input. What am I missing on Mooney? I don't see a guy I even need to roster when I watch him. But, I've been wrong before.
I mean...he had more yards as a rookie playing with Nick Foles and Mitch Trubisky than at least three of your WRs have had in a season their whole careers
True. No doubt about that. But, would you honestly drop any of the 3 for Mooney? I guess that's somewhat rhetorical, because you're saying you would. I'll have to give it some thought. I still like the upside of all of my bench WR's over Mooney's. Even though he didn't do terrible in the situation you described.
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RB-McCaffrey,Kamara,J.Wilson,Jam.Williams,Hines,S.Perine,Hubbard
WR-Hill,Ridley,Golladay,Thielen,Godwin,Boyd,Hardman,Campbell,Coutee,Patrick
TE-Kittle,Pitts,Dwelley,Butler,Reyes
DL-Hunter,Ogbah,Graham,Q.Williams,Paye
LB-Leonard,Wagner,David,Reddick,Morrow,D.Davis,Thompson,W.Gay,Mosley
DB-Curl,Ryan,Clark,Phillips
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Re: Which side is better?

Postby Jigga94 » Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:49 pm

DynastyDynasty wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:33 pm
Jigga94 wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:53 am
DynastyDynasty wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:53 pm

I'm also in a 12 team 1 Qb IDP league, Mooney is on our waiver wire. So, I'll take the 2.10.
The team in your sig? If so, I prefer Mooney to a few of those WR
Yeah, the team in my sig. I'm all ears. I appreciate the input. What am I missing on Mooney? I don't see a guy I even need to roster when I watch him. But, I've been wrong before.
Personally, he has more of a shot than Keke at this point. And I'd probably take him over Patrick also. Mooney's in the Parris Campbell, Hardman range for me

Mooney is still a long shot, don't get me wrong (all Day 3 NFL drafted WR are), but I believe he had solid separation numbers his rookie year. He was out-snapping Anthony Miller, so it was encouraging he climbed to WR2 on the depth chart. He won't push ARob, but he's a complimentary WR to him. And even then, ARob is probably on his way out next year. Not to mention Dalton is a QB upgrade, albeit slight. Lots of little things working in his favor, but it could very well be nothing.

But the decision for his potential over Keke is clear. Keke hasn't had a season over 300 yards in his first 3... Mooney just had 61/631/4. Even as prospects, I like Mooney more. Worse draft capital by a round (both still day 3 picks), but slightly faster, taller, bigger hands, earlier breakout.

And if you buy into ADP, Mooney is WR61, Keke isn't in the top100. Tim Patrick is 102... Hope this helps!

Also, I pick up these end of the bench guys so frequently and cycle them through and most never start for me so I started shooting for upside. The better they perform earlier on, the better in my opinion

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Re: Which side is better?

Postby DynastyDynasty » Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:05 pm

Jigga94 wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:49 pm
DynastyDynasty wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:33 pm
Jigga94 wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:53 am

The team in your sig? If so, I prefer Mooney to a few of those WR
Yeah, the team in my sig. I'm all ears. I appreciate the input. What am I missing on Mooney? I don't see a guy I even need to roster when I watch him. But, I've been wrong before.
Personally, he has more of a shot than Keke at this point. And I'd probably take him over Patrick also. Mooney's in the Parris Campbell, Hardman range for me

Mooney is still a long shot, don't get me wrong (all Day 3 NFL drafted WR are), but I believe he had solid separation numbers his rookie year. He was out-snapping Anthony Miller, so it was encouraging he climbed to WR2 on the depth chart. He won't push ARob, but he's a complimentary WR to him. And even then, ARob is probably on his way out next year. Not to mention Dalton is a QB upgrade, albeit slight. Lots of little things working in his favor, but it could very well be nothing.

But the decision for his potential over Keke is clear. Keke hasn't had a season over 300 yards in his first 3... Mooney just had 61/631/4. Even as prospects, I like Mooney more. Worse draft capital by a round (both still day 3 picks), but slightly faster, taller, bigger hands, earlier breakout.

And if you buy into ADP, Mooney is WR61, Keke isn't in the top100. Tim Patrick is 102... Hope this helps!

Also, I pick up these end of the bench guys so frequently and cycle them through and most never start for me so I started shooting for upside. The better they perform earlier on, the better in my opinion
I see where you're coming from. I can get down with that. I appreciate the thorough input. I can definitely see the case for him over Coutee or Patrick at this point. I'm still pretty hi on both Hardman and Campbell at this point though.
12 Team, PPR, TE Premium, IDP, 1RB, 1WR, 1TE, 3Flex, 1DL, 1LB, 1DB, 1Flex
QB-Mahomes,Ryan,Roeth
RB-McCaffrey,Kamara,J.Wilson,Jam.Williams,Hines,S.Perine,Hubbard
WR-Hill,Ridley,Golladay,Thielen,Godwin,Boyd,Hardman,Campbell,Coutee,Patrick
TE-Kittle,Pitts,Dwelley,Butler,Reyes
DL-Hunter,Ogbah,Graham,Q.Williams,Paye
LB-Leonard,Wagner,David,Reddick,Morrow,D.Davis,Thompson,W.Gay,Mosley
DB-Curl,Ryan,Clark,Phillips
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Re: Which side is better?

Postby Jigga94 » Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:08 pm

DynastyDynasty wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:05 pm
Jigga94 wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:49 pm
DynastyDynasty wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:33 pm

Yeah, the team in my sig. I'm all ears. I appreciate the input. What am I missing on Mooney? I don't see a guy I even need to roster when I watch him. But, I've been wrong before.
Personally, he has more of a shot than Keke at this point. And I'd probably take him over Patrick also. Mooney's in the Parris Campbell, Hardman range for me

Mooney is still a long shot, don't get me wrong (all Day 3 NFL drafted WR are), but I believe he had solid separation numbers his rookie year. He was out-snapping Anthony Miller, so it was encouraging he climbed to WR2 on the depth chart. He won't push ARob, but he's a complimentary WR to him. And even then, ARob is probably on his way out next year. Not to mention Dalton is a QB upgrade, albeit slight. Lots of little things working in his favor, but it could very well be nothing.

But the decision for his potential over Keke is clear. Keke hasn't had a season over 300 yards in his first 3... Mooney just had 61/631/4. Even as prospects, I like Mooney more. Worse draft capital by a round (both still day 3 picks), but slightly faster, taller, bigger hands, earlier breakout.

And if you buy into ADP, Mooney is WR61, Keke isn't in the top100. Tim Patrick is 102... Hope this helps!

Also, I pick up these end of the bench guys so frequently and cycle them through and most never start for me so I started shooting for upside. The better they perform earlier on, the better in my opinion
I see where you're coming from. I can get down with that. I appreciate the thorough input. I can definitely see the case for him over Coutee or Patrick at this point. I'm still pretty hi on both Hardman and Campbell at this point though.
Anytime! Agreed on Hardman and Campbell. I probably wouldn't move either for Mooney, but similar potential imo


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