Kamara Uncertainty.

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Kamara Uncertainty.

Postby wesurug » Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:54 am

Not trying to move immediately. But would you all consider moving Kamara for say, Zeke and a mid 1st? Trying to look for value without losing production, but we know Zeke's production with Dak, we also know Kamara's with Hill, but unknown with Winston.

Again, curious.
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Re: Kamara Uncertainty.

Postby Gator Sens » Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:00 am

Zeke and a mid 1st is a great return for Kamara. Both backs are aging a bit, but Zeke has always had a much more guaranteed workload. The difference between Kamara and Zeke is much less than a mid 1st and this is great value.

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Re: Kamara Uncertainty.

Postby robinoso » Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:02 am

I’m crazy, but I’m not adding a 1st to Zeke for Kamara (now).
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Re: Kamara Uncertainty.

Postby krtbuckeye » Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:56 am

I moved Kamara/my 2022 1st for Zeke/2021 lottery (top 4) 1st/2023 1st earlier in the offseason and felt lucky to do so. I was able to move Zeke and the pick in different deals to retool to get younger guys (they were added into deals that netted Metcalf, Dobbins, and Claypool), but I'm only saying that to say that Zeke was much easier to market as a trade asset than Kamara was, so I think the return here is great for you.
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Re: Kamara Uncertainty.

Postby RB6 » Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:28 pm

The difference between Kamara and Zeke is less than mid first.
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Re: Kamara Uncertainty.

Postby Mtt33 » Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:34 pm

RB6 wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:28 pm The difference between Kamara and Zeke is less than mid first.
Startup data shows there is a big difference though. 1qb Adp looks like it has kamara 4 overall and zeke at 20. Pretty big gap there. I’m certainly not paying a mid 1st on top of zeke, just pointing out the market is very low on zeke.

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Re: Kamara Uncertainty.

Postby RB6 » Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:46 pm

Mtt33 wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:34 pm
RB6 wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:28 pm The difference between Kamara and Zeke is less than mid first.
Startup data shows there is a big difference though. 1qb Adp looks like it has kamara 4 overall and zeke at 20. Pretty big gap there. I’m certainly not paying a mid 1st on top of zeke, just pointing out the market is very low on zeke.
Of course his market is low. Dak missed 75% of the season. You don’t think Zeke’s down year correlates with that?

That’s a rhetorical question. No need to respond.
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Re: Kamara Uncertainty.

Postby Mtt33 » Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:59 pm

RB6 wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:46 pm
Mtt33 wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:34 pm
RB6 wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:28 pm The difference between Kamara and Zeke is less than mid first.
Startup data shows there is a big difference though. 1qb Adp looks like it has kamara 4 overall and zeke at 20. Pretty big gap there. I’m certainly not paying a mid 1st on top of zeke, just pointing out the market is very low on zeke.
Of course his market is low. Dak missed 75% of the season. You don’t think Zeke’s down year correlates with that?

That’s a rhetorical question. No need to respond.
I’m going to answer anyways and ask what your point is here. Market drives worth, you said he’s not worth that, market seems to think there’s a big gap there. The reasons are irrelevant. Saying you wouldn’t pay x price or you would snap accept that price is different than referencing worth. The market/what your league mates will pay defines worth.

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Re: Kamara Uncertainty.

Postby DynastyDynasty » Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:12 pm

I would not give away Kamara for Zeke & a mid 1st. Call me crazy, but I'm almost always going to be the guy giving away a 1st for an upgrade. Unless I'm in a full-on rebuild. In my league, the Zeke owner has had him on the block all offseason, he hasn't gotten one offer. He's offered him up to others anyway, and can't get anything in return. I would agree with Mtt33, the market seems pretty low on him right now. There's uncertainty with Kamara without Brees for sure. But, I'm taking him over Zeke & a mid 1st pretty easily.
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Re: Kamara Uncertainty.

Postby tsarpepe » Sun Apr 04, 2021 12:48 pm

I'd certainly consider the idea if I were you. You don't have many picks this year; while some spots on your roster need attention. If Watson is suspended you'll be weak at QB. And an upgrade at TE is a definite need.

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Re: Kamara Uncertainty.

Postby Pullo Vision » Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:09 pm

I'm not selling Kamara for Zeke and a 1. With Sean Peyton still there, I'm not terribly concerned for Kamara. Zeke, though, looked bad without regards to Dak being out.
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Re: Kamara Uncertainty.

Postby wesurug » Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:19 pm

Thanks for the input guys. Nothing moved so far, but yeah definitely have to do something about QB and depth in other areas.

I wouldn't be concerned having him going into the season. Though I'd rather get him shipped tbh before possible decline in 'type of value'.

What quality of RB would you guys want on top of let's say, Dak or Mahomes/Top5 QB, for Kamara?

Same for what type of WR would you guys want on top of a Top 5 QB?
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