14 Team 2QB TE Premium Startup

[slaughterrt]

Updated a couple rounds...

Added Cohen, Crowder, Campbell.

[McCafsteez]

Buckle up guy...

14 team / start 2QB / TE premium (TE get 1.5 ppr vs normal 1ppr, TE gets 7 point TD vs normal 6)

Starting lineup:
QB
QB
RB
RB
WR
WR
WR
TE
Flex (RB/WR/TE)
Flex (RB/WR/TE)

Startup:

1.10 - Deshaun Watson
2.05 - Justin Jefferson
3.10 - Calvin Ridley
4.05 - Tom Brady
5.10 - TJ Hockenson
6.05 - Jared Goff
7.10 - Odell Beckham
8.05 - Deebo Samuel
9.10 - Will Fuller
10.05 - Nyheim Hines
11.10 - Tarik Cohen
12.05 - Jamison Crowder
13.10 - Parris Campbell

Lemme have it...

Any chance you can post the first three rounds of the draft? Tough to analyze without knowing what was on the board and when.

[slaughterrt]

Update: Drafted Van Jefferson


Round 1
Mahomes
Allen
Lamar
Russell
Kyler
Herbert
ARod
Burrow
Dak
Watson
Baker
CMC
Saquon
Kamara

Round 2
Jonathan Taylor
Tanny
Davante
Dalvin
Justin Jefferson
Stafford
Kelce
Henry
Diggs
Tua
Chubb
Dobbins
Hopkins
DK

Round 3
Zeke
AJB
Tyreek
James Robinson
Tee Higgins
Josh Jacobs
MT
Wentz
Aaron Jones
Ridley
Claypool
Carr
Hurts
Ekeler

[abloom]

Buckle up guy...

14 team / start 2QB / TE premium (TE get 1.5 ppr vs normal 1ppr, TE gets 7 point TD vs normal 6)

Starting lineup:
QB
QB
RB
RB
WR
WR
WR
TE
Flex (RB/WR/TE)
Flex (RB/WR/TE)

Startup:

1.10 - Deshaun Watson
2.05 - Justin Jefferson
3.10 - Calvin Ridley
4.05 - Tom Brady
5.10 - TJ Hockenson
6.05 - Jared Goff
7.10 - Odell Beckham
8.05 - Deebo Samuel
9.10 - Will Fuller
10.05 - Nyheim Hines
11.10 - Tarik Cohen
12.05 - Jamison Crowder
13.10 - Parris Campbell
14.05 - Van Jefferson

Lemme have it...

I liked cohen until williams signed there. I don't have really any different opinion than when you has the first 7-8 rounds. I still don't like the obj pick. I like your team if you can acquire some 2022 1sts a lot more. But I don't think you'll be a legit contender without getting some RBs and it may be a couple seasons unless you trade some of your other assets.

[Jigga94]

Wow so Baker went before any other position... Carr went 3rd round but Goff was there in the 6th... There's a couple other things I could nitpick, like Hopkins over the following few WR, but those QB selections stand out the most

[McCafsteez]

Wow so Baker went before any other position... Carr went 3rd round but Goff was there in the 6th... There's a couple other things I could nitpick, like Hopkins over the following few WR, but those QB selections stand out the most

Yeah, this draft was weird. I've never seen so many QBs go that early in a SF. Honestly I would have taken CMC at the 1.10 since he was there before Watson, and then would have looked to grab Cook / Henry in the 2nd. Hindsight is 20/20!

[abloom]

Wow so Baker went before any other position... Carr went 3rd round but Goff was there in the 6th... There's a couple other things I could nitpick, like Hopkins over the following few WR, but those QB selections stand out the most

Yeah, this draft was weird. I've never seen so many QBs go that early in a SF. Honestly I would have taken CMC at the 1.10 since he was there before Watson, and then would have looked to grab Cook / Henry in the 2nd. Hindsight is 20/20!

1) Its a 14 teamer
2) Its not a SF, unless the original post was incorrect, its a start 2 QB. As in you're getting 0s if you only have 1 starter on a week.



Looking at draft:
Round 1
Mahomes - chalk
Allen - chalk
Lamar - chalk
Russell - chalk
Kyler - chalk
Herbert - chalk
ARod - Seems high
Burrow - seems high
Dak - seems low
Watson - yikes. I still think this is a good pick, but yea i get it.
Baker - QB11, seems about right. A little worried that hes on a run first team. Not sure there are better QB options out there though.
CMC - I think I'm probably fine taking a RB at this point. Interesting point though, with rookie picks being done in reverse order of starting draft (BTW NEVER EVER DO THIS AGAIN FOR THE FOLLOWING REASON) RBs here are incredibly good, because you're going to be using the 1.01 - 1.03 (if not 1.04) on QBs.
Saquon - good
Kamara - good, better hope Hill doesn't get the job.

Round 2
Jonathan Taylor - good value, terrible team building. Better hope those QBs falls in 3rd/4th. But as said before having Lawrence is a huge advantage. Kamara, JT, Lawrence start, will be interesting to compare to the Mahomes start.
Tanny - Yea, seems right
Davante - Dont like this from a team building standpoint.
Dalvin - Not sure I like this one either
Justin Jefferson - Nice
Stafford - probably right
Kelce - awesome
Henry - Okayish
Diggs - Fine
Tua - Seems like good value
Chubb - Seems high
Dobbins - Seems really high
Hopkins - Good
DK - Awesome

Round 3
Zeke - Seems fine, maybe a bit of a steal, but now we have Mahomes, DK, Zeke + 1.14 vs: Kamara, JT, Lawrence and 3.14 startup.
AJB - Nice
Tyreek - Nice
James Robinson - Big reach, really not liking this team with Chubb (assuming no trades)
Tee Higgins - seems high
Josh Jacobs - seems okay
MT - Steal
Wentz - nice
Aaron Jones - nice
Ridley - nice
Claypool - reach
Carr - did cousins already get picked? Been expecting him to go the last couple QBs
Hurts - BAhahhahaha! better hope he can start throwing
Ekeler - fine

Overall: Weird draft for a start 2 QB 14 teamer. Its compounded by not having rookies (or atleast rookie picks) included in the draft. there are several players that a a bunch of QBs should have been picked over. I'd be interested to see the complete or at least first 6-7 rounds at some point.

[MyTeam]

I actually don't mind the no RB startup and I think it can add a lot of depth if building for the future. But without a starting RB I would definitely like to see a better QB core than Watson with his lawsuits, Brady who is older than Betty White, and Goff who the Lions received a first just to take. Big fan of Jefferson where you got him and I really like Ridley but OBJ being your WR3 without having a RB makes this a tough team. I would have stayed super young because you can't compete without a RB. So I'd look to sell most of your team.

[MyTeam]

Wow so Baker went before any other position... Carr went 3rd round but Goff was there in the 6th... There's a couple other things I could nitpick, like Hopkins over the following few WR, but those QB selections stand out the most

Yeah, this draft was weird. I've never seen so many QBs go that early in a SF. Honestly I would have taken CMC at the 1.10 since he was there before Watson, and then would have looked to grab Cook / Henry in the 2nd. Hindsight is 20/20!

1) Its a 14 teamer
2) Its not a SF, unless the original post was incorrect, its a start 2 QB. As in you're getting 0s if you only have 1 starter on a week.



Looking at draft:
Round 1
Mahomes - chalk
Allen - chalk
Lamar - chalk
Russell - chalk
Kyler - chalk
Herbert - chalk
ARod - Seems high
Burrow - seems high
Dak - seems low
Watson - yikes. I still think this is a good pick, but yea i get it.
Baker - QB11, seems about right. A little worried that hes on a run first team. Not sure there are better QB options out there though.
CMC - I think I'm probably fine taking a RB at this point. Interesting point though, with rookie picks being done in reverse order of starting draft (BTW NEVER EVER DO THIS AGAIN FOR THE FOLLOWING REASON) RBs here are incredibly good, because you're going to be using the 1.01 - 1.03 (if not 1.04) on QBs.
Saquon - good
Kamara - good, better hope Hill doesn't get the job.

Round 2
Jonathan Taylor - good value, terrible team building. Better hope those QBs falls in 3rd/4th. But as said before having Lawrence is a huge advantage. Kamara, JT, Lawrence start, will be interesting to compare to the Mahomes start.
Tanny - Yea, seems right
Davante - Dont like this from a team building standpoint.
Dalvin - Not sure I like this one either
Justin Jefferson - Nice
Stafford - probably right
Kelce - awesome
Henry - Okayish
Diggs - Fine
Tua - Seems like good value
Chubb - Seems high
Dobbins - Seems really high
Hopkins - Good
DK - Awesome

Round 3
Zeke - Seems fine, maybe a bit of a steal, but now we have Mahomes, DK, Zeke + 1.14 vs: Kamara, JT, Lawrence and 3.14 startup.
AJB - Nice
Tyreek - Nice
James Robinson - Big reach, really not liking this team with Chubb (assuming no trades)
Tee Higgins - seems high
Josh Jacobs - seems okay
MT - Steal
Wentz - nice
Aaron Jones - nice
Ridley - nice
Claypool - reach
Carr - did cousins already get picked? Been expecting him to go the last couple QBs
Hurts - BAhahhahaha! better hope he can start throwing
Ekeler - fine

Overall: Weird draft for a start 2 QB 14 teamer. Its compounded by not having rookies (or atleast rookie picks) included in the draft. there are several players that a a bunch of QBs should have been picked over. I'd be interested to see the complete or at least first 6-7 rounds at some point.

I'm glad you pointed out how terrible the reverse order rookie draft is. Everyone in this league just gave the guy with the last pick the biggest advantage. Lawrence would have gone right around 1.07 and now the guy at 14 gets essentially 2 firsts because this league set up is so bad.

[abloom]

I'm glad you pointed out how terrible the reverse order rookie draft is. Everyone in this league just gave the guy with the last pick the biggest advantage. Lawrence would have gone right around 1.07 and now the guy at 14 gets essentially 2 firsts because this league set up is so bad.

There are a couple points that I try to never let get overlooked.

(1) Not all Superflex leagues are created equal (big difference between 10 and 12 team leagues)
(2) NEVER EVER EVER have a startup draft and rookie draft in the same year where you just reverse the draft order (I always point out Barkley's rookie year for 1QB)
(3) SF bestball leagues weaken QB value a bit

[Mtt33]

Yeah, this draft was weird. I've never seen so many QBs go that early in a SF. Honestly I would have taken CMC at the 1.10 since he was there before Watson, and then would have looked to grab Cook / Henry in the 2nd. Hindsight is 20/20!

1) Its a 14 teamer
2) Its not a SF, unless the original post was incorrect, its a start 2 QB. As in you're getting 0s if you only have 1 starter on a week.



Looking at draft:
Round 1
Mahomes - chalk
Allen - chalk
Lamar - chalk
Russell - chalk
Kyler - chalk
Herbert - chalk
ARod - Seems high
Burrow - seems high
Dak - seems low
Watson - yikes. I still think this is a good pick, but yea i get it.
Baker - QB11, seems about right. A little worried that hes on a run first team. Not sure there are better QB options out there though.
CMC - I think I'm probably fine taking a RB at this point. Interesting point though, with rookie picks being done in reverse order of starting draft (BTW NEVER EVER DO THIS AGAIN FOR THE FOLLOWING REASON) RBs here are incredibly good, because you're going to be using the 1.01 - 1.03 (if not 1.04) on QBs.
Saquon - good
Kamara - good, better hope Hill doesn't get the job.

Round 2
Jonathan Taylor - good value, terrible team building. Better hope those QBs falls in 3rd/4th. But as said before having Lawrence is a huge advantage. Kamara, JT, Lawrence start, will be interesting to compare to the Mahomes start.
Tanny - Yea, seems right
Davante - Dont like this from a team building standpoint.
Dalvin - Not sure I like this one either
Justin Jefferson - Nice
Stafford - probably right
Kelce - awesome
Henry - Okayish
Diggs - Fine
Tua - Seems like good value
Chubb - Seems high
Dobbins - Seems really high
Hopkins - Good
DK - Awesome

Round 3
Zeke - Seems fine, maybe a bit of a steal, but now we have Mahomes, DK, Zeke + 1.14 vs: Kamara, JT, Lawrence and 3.14 startup.
AJB - Nice
Tyreek - Nice
James Robinson - Big reach, really not liking this team with Chubb (assuming no trades)
Tee Higgins - seems high
Josh Jacobs - seems okay
MT - Steal
Wentz - nice
Aaron Jones - nice
Ridley - nice
Claypool - reach
Carr - did cousins already get picked? Been expecting him to go the last couple QBs
Hurts - BAhahhahaha! better hope he can start throwing
Ekeler - fine

Overall: Weird draft for a start 2 QB 14 teamer. Its compounded by not having rookies (or atleast rookie picks) included in the draft. there are several players that a a bunch of QBs should have been picked over. I'd be interested to see the complete or at least first 6-7 rounds at some point.

I'm glad you pointed out how terrible the reverse order rookie draft is. Everyone in this league just gave the guy with the last pick the biggest advantage. Lawrence would have gone right around 1.07 and now the guy at 14 gets essentially 2 firsts because this league set up is so bad.

Honestly it’s not that much better than the Mahomes advantage would be in a 14 team 2qb startup with rookie picks in the draft. I completely agree with you the rookie picks need to be in the draft, just pointing out Mahomes gives a similar advantage in this format.

[slaughterrt]

https://www.fantrax.com/newui/fantasy/d ... ulkmji8fhd

Not sure if it’s viewable to the public but here’s the draft so far.

[wiebal]

14 teams TE premium and no kittle??

[slaughterrt]

14 teams TE premium and no kittle??

Kittle went 4.02 - which is later than I would have thought, Waller went right after.

[slaughterrt]

Wow so Baker went before any other position... Carr went 3rd round but Goff was there in the 6th... There's a couple other things I could nitpick, like Hopkins over the following few WR, but those QB selections stand out the most

Yeah, this draft was weird. I've never seen so many QBs go that early in a SF. Honestly I would have taken CMC at the 1.10 since he was there before Watson, and then would have looked to grab Cook / Henry in the 2nd. Hindsight is 20/20!

Must start 2QB. Not superflex.