Trade Derrick Henry for Kelce or Waller?

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Trade Derrick Henry for Kelce or Waller?

Postby FantasyFootballTeam » Sat Mar 27, 2021 7:19 am

8 Team PPR 2TE 2QB

I have a couple of potential trades involving giving Derrick Henry for Waller or Kelce.

My RB depth is Kamara Henry JRob then Harris and Davis with no picks to draft another decent RB.

I was thinking it could be a good strategy to trade him for Kelce or Waller so I keep elite production in my lineup whilst mitigating a sudden drop in value when Henry potentially falls off a cliff.

I'm thinking of offering:

Henry and L. Thomas for Kelce and Dillon

Or

Henry and L. Thomas for Waller and 3.02 3.03(Haven't got much else to trade for except maybe Hunt or Carson)


Maybe wait to see who the Jags draft to make sure I've got a decent RB2 in JRob?
8 Team PPR 2QB, 2RB, 3WR, 2TE, FLEX, 5 Bench

QB - Mahomes, Prescott, Carr
RB - R. Stevenson, A.Jones, A. Kamara, K. Herbert
WR - Adams, Diggs, Godwin, Hollywood , JuJu
TE - Kittle, Waller, Higbee
TAXI - Brian Robinson, J. Warren

Picks
23' 1st, 3rd, 3rd
24' 2nd
25' 1st and 2nd

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Re: Trade Derrick Henry for Kelce or Waller?

Postby Gator Sens » Sat Mar 27, 2021 7:44 am

Either would be a big land in a 2TE format if on the table, but I dont think holding off until post NFL draft is a bad idea either. This would leave you very thin at RB either way and maybe not the best for your build, but I understand trying to get great value for Henry before his cliff hits.

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Re: Trade Derrick Henry for Kelce or Waller?

Postby TheBelgian » Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:34 am

If the goal is to avoid a value drop with Henry then I would trade for Waller. Kelce will have a similar value drop coming as well.

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Re: Trade Derrick Henry for Kelce or Waller?

Postby FantasyFootballTeam » Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:50 am

Yeah Waller will probably be the ideal target. If I trade Henry and Thomas for Waller what would you expect back in return on top of Waller?

Their players of note:

QB - Rodgers, Ryan, Carr, Love
RB - McCaffery, Carson, Hunt,
WR - Jefferson, McLaurin, Cooper, Julio, Deebo
TE - Waller, Gronk
Picks - 3.02 3.03
8 Team PPR 2QB, 2RB, 3WR, 2TE, FLEX, 5 Bench

QB - Mahomes, Prescott, Carr
RB - R. Stevenson, A.Jones, A. Kamara, K. Herbert
WR - Adams, Diggs, Godwin, Hollywood , JuJu
TE - Kittle, Waller, Higbee
TAXI - Brian Robinson, J. Warren

Picks
23' 1st, 3rd, 3rd
24' 2nd
25' 1st and 2nd

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Re: Trade Derrick Henry for Kelce or Waller?

Postby jwb32 » Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:54 am

With no picks, I don’t see how you can lose Henry and have any chance to compete in an 8 team league.
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09

TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04

TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
2022 1st, 2nd (2), 3rd (2)

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Re: Trade Derrick Henry for Kelce or Waller?

Postby FantasyFootballTeam » Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:47 am

I see what you're saying. I guess it's a lineup difference of Henry + Thomas vs JRob + Waller.

Although I will be left thin at RB but have more longevity with Waller.

My closest rival is probably:

QB: Allen Herbert Goff
RB: Barkley A.Jones R.Jones Hines
WR: Hopkins Lamb Woods Boyd Cooks Lockett
TE: Ertz Hooper Shultz
Picks: 1.03 3.08
8 Team PPR 2QB, 2RB, 3WR, 2TE, FLEX, 5 Bench

QB - Mahomes, Prescott, Carr
RB - R. Stevenson, A.Jones, A. Kamara, K. Herbert
WR - Adams, Diggs, Godwin, Hollywood , JuJu
TE - Kittle, Waller, Higbee
TAXI - Brian Robinson, J. Warren

Picks
23' 1st, 3rd, 3rd
24' 2nd
25' 1st and 2nd

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Re: Trade Derrick Henry for Kelce or Waller?

Postby krtbuckeye » Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:46 pm

I’d take either TE here in 2TE, but would lean Waller.
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Re: Trade Derrick Henry for Kelce or Waller?

Postby Shoreline Steamers » Sat Mar 27, 2021 7:00 pm

FantasyFootballTeam wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:50 am Yeah Waller will probably be the ideal target. If I trade Henry and Thomas for Waller what would you expect back in return on top of Waller?

Their players of note:

QB - Rodgers, Ryan, Carr, Love
RB - McCaffery, Carson, Hunt,
WR - Jefferson, McLaurin, Cooper, Julio, Deebo
TE - Waller, Gronk
Picks - 3.02 3.03
That bolded guy above is who I'd try to get back. Timeshare RB, the 1B to a stud in Chubb. Still fairly young, and could be useful to you for a few years if you can get it done.
14 Team, No-PPR, 20 Man Roster, TD Heavy, TD = 6, FG = 3, Start: QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, Flex, K, D
QB: L. Jackson, B. Purdy, T. Lance
RB: J. Mixon, N. Chubb, A. Dillon, J. Cook, K. Mitchell, J. McLaughlin, Z. Evans
WR: J. Chase, C. Godwin, D. Johnson, J. Reed, C. Tillman
TE: TJ Hockenson, D. Njoku, B. Jordan

14 Team, .5 PPR, 18 Man Roster, Rush/Rec TD = 6, Pass TD = 4, FG = 3, Start: QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, Flex, K, D
QB: L. Jackson, T. Tagovailoa
RB: B. Robinson, K. Walker, R. Stevenson, K. Herbertl
WR: C. Olave, T. Higgins, B. Aiyuk, N. Collins, Z. Flowers, M. Mims
TE: K. Pitts, D. Njoku

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Re: Trade Derrick Henry for Kelce or Waller?

Postby abloom » Sat Mar 27, 2021 7:05 pm

If I were him, I wouldn't budge on kelce or waller in a start 2TE league. You're looking at a big overpay to get one of them. I'd aim for waller just because ehe might be cheaper.
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, Fields, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens, wilson
T: Kelce, Goedert, Thomas, woods
D: cle, nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson, Browning, Rudolph, Zappe
R: Swift, Walker, Dobbins, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen, Nuk, Tre tucker, C Samuel,
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

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Re: Trade Derrick Henry for Kelce or Waller?

Postby MaddMadden » Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:18 pm

In an 8 team league, you need studs. Henry is at peak value IMO.

I'd target Waller due to youth personally, but if you can pull it off, pull the trigger.
10 team half-PPR league. Starters: QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 2FLEX, K, 2DE, DT, 2LB, S, CB, 2IDP. 40man roster. Salary Cap pinned to NFL.

2022 picks: 1st, 3rd
2023 picks: 2 1st, 2 2nd, 3 3rd, 2 4ths

Players under contracts 2021 (years)
QB: K. Murray (3), T. Lance (4)
RB: S. Barkley (4), C. Edwards-Helaire (3+1), J. Jacobs (4), M. Davis (1), D. Henderson (1), AJ Dillon (3), Z. Moss (3), T. Pollard (2), T. Etienne (4)
WR: DK Metcalf (2), C. Ridley (2), T. McLaurin (2), J. Chase (4), R. Bateman (4), E. Moore (4), R. Moore (4), J. Reagor (3), B. Edwards (3), KJ Hamler (3)
TE: G. Kittle (3), A. Trautman (3)
K: Y. Koo (1)
DE: D. Hunter (1), C. Young (3+1), J. Bosa (2), J. Allen (2), K. Paye (4)
DT: A. Donald (2), Q. Williams (3)
LB: D. Leonard (2), R. Smith (3), F. Warner (3) P. Queen (3), I. Simmons (3), J. Davis (4)
S: D. James (2), R. Grant (4)
CB: K. Moore (2)

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Re: Trade Derrick Henry for Kelce or Waller?

Postby FantasyFootballTeam » Sun Mar 28, 2021 1:24 am

So Henry and Thomas for Waller and Hunt seems reasonable?
8 Team PPR 2QB, 2RB, 3WR, 2TE, FLEX, 5 Bench

QB - Mahomes, Prescott, Carr
RB - R. Stevenson, A.Jones, A. Kamara, K. Herbert
WR - Adams, Diggs, Godwin, Hollywood , JuJu
TE - Kittle, Waller, Higbee
TAXI - Brian Robinson, J. Warren

Picks
23' 1st, 3rd, 3rd
24' 2nd
25' 1st and 2nd

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Re: Trade Derrick Henry for Kelce or Waller?

Postby abloom » Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:41 am

FantasyFootballTeam wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 1:24 am So Henry and Thomas for Waller and Hunt seems reasonable?
Not even close for me
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, Fields, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens, wilson
T: Kelce, Goedert, Thomas, woods
D: cle, nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson, Browning, Rudolph, Zappe
R: Swift, Walker, Dobbins, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen, Nuk, Tre tucker, C Samuel,
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
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Team #5 4th
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Re: Trade Derrick Henry for Kelce or Waller?

Postby FantasyFootballTeam » Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:23 am

abloom wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:41 am
FantasyFootballTeam wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 1:24 am So Henry and Thomas for Waller and Hunt seems reasonable?
Not even close for me
Sorry, not close which way round? Not sure how much premium people put on Waller in a 2TE league
8 Team PPR 2QB, 2RB, 3WR, 2TE, FLEX, 5 Bench

QB - Mahomes, Prescott, Carr
RB - R. Stevenson, A.Jones, A. Kamara, K. Herbert
WR - Adams, Diggs, Godwin, Hollywood , JuJu
TE - Kittle, Waller, Higbee
TAXI - Brian Robinson, J. Warren

Picks
23' 1st, 3rd, 3rd
24' 2nd
25' 1st and 2nd

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Re: Trade Derrick Henry for Kelce or Waller?

Postby abloom » Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:31 am

FantasyFootballTeam wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:23 am
abloom wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:41 am
FantasyFootballTeam wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 1:24 am So Henry and Thomas for Waller and Hunt seems reasonable?
Not even close for me
Sorry, not close which way round? Not sure how much premium people put on Waller in a 2TE league
Waller side by a lot.
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, Fields, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens, wilson
T: Kelce, Goedert, Thomas, woods
D: cle, nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson, Browning, Rudolph, Zappe
R: Swift, Walker, Dobbins, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen, Nuk, Tre tucker, C Samuel,
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
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Team #5 4th
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Re: Trade Derrick Henry for Kelce or Waller?

Postby zaner75 » Sun Mar 28, 2021 9:16 am

If you can get either Kelce or Waller, I would consider it a big win. Good luck.


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