Rebuild: ship off nuk and d Henry?

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Nuk and d Henry or package?

Poll ended at Tue Mar 16, 2021 8:23 am

Deandre Hopkins+ Derrick Henry
6
67%
21 1.03, 21 1.12, 22 2nd, D. Monty, Herndon
3
33%
 
Total votes: 9

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Rebuild: ship off nuk and d Henry?

Postby Panthers357 » Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:23 am

In a rebuild in a Superflex 12 teams 1.5 te premium. Trade nuk and Derrick Henry for 21 1.03, 1.12, David Montgomery, Chris Herndon and a 2022 2nd? He also has 2.02, 3.02 and 3.12 and 3 2022 1sts.
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WR- ARSB, Adams, Evans, Marquise brown, Burks Gallup, Alec Pierce, Boutte
TE Kittle, Waller, Pitts, t kraft
K- nick folk , moody, Maher
Def- ravens, Giants
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QB a rich, Kyler, Cousins, Brissett
RB Bijan, Pacheco, jerrick McKinnon, Melvin Gordon, Hubbard, Jaylen Warren
Wr jsn, z flowers, Mike Evans, a cooper, aj brown, skyy moore, Pickens, Christian Watson, John metchie
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Re: Rebuild: ship off nuk and d Henry?

Postby JJRules » Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:28 am

Even for a rebuild this feels kinda light. See if he'll add a '22 first, or at least replace Herndon or the '22 second with a '22 first.
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Re: Rebuild: ship off nuk and d Henry?

Postby Gator Sens » Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:46 am

If you could add a 2022 1st on top, I think it would help your team more in the long run. The return here is decent, but not great even in a rebuild.

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Re: Rebuild: ship off nuk and d Henry?

Postby jwb32 » Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:55 am

Not awful but feels light. Mostly because Monty doesn't really help your rebuild. If you can get him to change the 2022 2nd to one of the 2022 1sts, I'd pull the trigger. I'd even consider swapping out the 1.12 and the 2022 2nd for 2 2022 1sts if that gets it done. Your team is a few years away so 2021 vs 2022 is nearly irrelevant to you.
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09

TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04

TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
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Re: Rebuild: ship off nuk and d Henry?

Postby pmart33 » Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:27 am

Try and get 2.02 added and also try to change that 2022 2nd to a first. Then I'd be in.
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Re: Rebuild: ship off nuk and d Henry?

Postby jwb32 » Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:36 am

jwb32 wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:55 am Not awful but feels light. Mostly because Monty doesn't really help your rebuild. If you can get him to change the 2022 2nd to one of the 2022 1sts, I'd pull the trigger. I'd even consider swapping out the 1.12 and the 2022 2nd for 2 2022 1sts if that gets it done. Your team is a few years away so 2021 vs 2022 is nearly irrelevant to you.
I will add that I think this is likely to be the best offer you recieve. So if your counters are rejected, I would still lean toward accepting. When you are in full rebuild, you can only be so choosy when attempting to move your aging assets. Hopkins and ESPECIALLY Henry values will only go down from here.
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09

TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04

TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
2022 1st, 2nd (2), 3rd (2)

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Re: Rebuild: ship off nuk and d Henry?

Postby Panthers357 » Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:04 am

jwb32 wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:36 am
jwb32 wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:55 am Not awful but feels light. Mostly because Monty doesn't really help your rebuild. If you can get him to change the 2022 2nd to one of the 2022 1sts, I'd pull the trigger. I'd even consider swapping out the 1.12 and the 2022 2nd for 2 2022 1sts if that gets it done. Your team is a few years away so 2021 vs 2022 is nearly irrelevant to you.
I will add that I think this is likely to be the best offer you recieve. So if your counters are rejected, I would still lean toward accepting. When you are in full rebuild, you can only be so choosy when attempting to move your aging assets. Hopkins and ESPECIALLY Henry values will only go down from here.
I entered offer as Monty, 21 1.03, 21 1.12, 22 1st, 21 2.02 and Herndon for Hopkins and Henry. We’ll see what he says/Counters with
Team 1 Fleaflicker 12 Team Half PPR Start 9 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1TE, 1Flex RB, WR,TE 1Def, 1K
QB- A Rich , Stafford, Mac Jones, Minshew
RB- Taylor, Etienne, Ekeler, K Walker, Fournette, k miller, foreman, TDP
WR- ARSB, Adams, Evans, Marquise brown, Burks Gallup, Alec Pierce, Boutte
TE Kittle, Waller, Pitts, t kraft
K- nick folk , moody, Maher
Def- ravens, Giants
24 1st, 2 24 2nds, 3 24 3rds
All 25 picks
26 2nd, 26 3rd and 26 4th

Team 2 Sleeper-Superflex
QB a rich, Kyler, Cousins, Brissett
RB Bijan, Pacheco, jerrick McKinnon, Melvin Gordon, Hubbard, Jaylen Warren
Wr jsn, z flowers, Mike Evans, a cooper, aj brown, skyy moore, Pickens, Christian Watson, John metchie
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Re: Rebuild: ship off nuk and d Henry?

Postby Adam_172 » Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:06 am

Too light, need at least a mid-1st added for me to consider moving top end assets.
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Re: Rebuild: ship off nuk and d Henry?

Postby Gator Sens » Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:06 am

Panthers357 wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:04 am
jwb32 wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:36 am
jwb32 wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:55 am Not awful but feels light. Mostly because Monty doesn't really help your rebuild. If you can get him to change the 2022 2nd to one of the 2022 1sts, I'd pull the trigger. I'd even consider swapping out the 1.12 and the 2022 2nd for 2 2022 1sts if that gets it done. Your team is a few years away so 2021 vs 2022 is nearly irrelevant to you.
I will add that I think this is likely to be the best offer you recieve. So if your counters are rejected, I would still lean toward accepting. When you are in full rebuild, you can only be so choosy when attempting to move your aging assets. Hopkins and ESPECIALLY Henry values will only go down from here.
I entered offer as Monty, 21 1.03, 21 1.12, 22 1st, 21 2.02 and Herndon for Hopkins and Henry. We’ll see what he says/Counters with
I think this deal helps you more long term either with hitting on picks or the value of picks to flip at some point for the right offer. If you are going down a long rebuild path, I would also shop Montgomery if the trade goes through in case a great deal can be had.

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Re: Rebuild: ship off nuk and d Henry?

Postby dblj1199 » Tue Mar 09, 2021 11:01 am

pmart33 wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:27 am Try and get 2.02 added and also try to change that 2022 2nd to a first. Then I'd be in.
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Re: Rebuild: ship off nuk and d Henry?

Postby krtbuckeye » Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:08 pm

I like the counter much better than the original and think that's a good deal for you long term.
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