Matty Ice value in 14 - Team SF (updatet)

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Re: Matty Ice value in 14 - Team SF

Postby ravn88 » Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:39 am

krtbuckeye wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:01 pm Just seeing all this, the 1.02/Ryan counter on Burrow made me laugh given the irony of his ridiculous expectation on a return for Ryan 😂 I agree, probably best to move on from this cat and let him enjoy his Matt Ryan.
Funny enough he didnt reply.

DonBrazi wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:05 am Matt Ryan types are über replaceable nowadays. You should never pay premium prices for that kind of expected production.

1-to-1, he's probably 'worth' a late-1st in a 14-teamer.. but I'd have a hard time making that move. I'd consider a package that was valued at a late-1st (eg. early-2nd/mid-2nd).. but not sure I could move a 1st for him.
That was kind pf my starting bid.
Team 1 : 1QB 2RB 3 WR 1TE 1Flex 1K 1TM 2 IR 12 Keepers

QB: Carson Wentz, P. Mahomes
RB: A. Jones, MGIII, Dobbins, L. Bell, Ingram, J Williams & Gaskin
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones, K. Allen, J Crowder, Humpries & Agolor
TE: E. Engram, Trey Burton, V Davis & J. Doyle

Team 2: 1QB 1 SF 3RB 5WR 2TE 2FLEX DEF 26 Keepers 2019 Champ :thumbup: 2020 third place

QB: J. Allen Wentz Watson D. Lock.
RB: Barkley Zeke CEH J. Robinson D. Freeman Penny
WR: M. Thomas Cooper Godwin Juju J. Washington Renfrow, Jeudy, R. Moore TreQuan, P. Williams
TE: Waller Engram OJH & Everett
DEF: Pats & Browns

Team 3: 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF K

QB: Wilson Wentz Tannehill Brees Haskins Foles
RB: CMC Zeke Miles CEH AP J. Jackson B. Scott
WR: Evans Adams Landry Metcalf E. Sanders Lazard
TE: Engram Hurts Ebron Herndon

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Re: Matty Ice value in 14 - Team SF

Postby Crouchy » Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:51 am

Just offer him David Montgomery and be done with it.

But I do not think you will be trade partners on this deal!

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Re: Matty Ice value in 14 - Team SF

Postby ravn88 » Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:32 am

Crouchy wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:51 am Just offer him David Montgomery and be done with it.

But I do not think you will be trade partners on this deal!
Why would i pay premium price, and loose a starting player from my lineup?
Team 1 : 1QB 2RB 3 WR 1TE 1Flex 1K 1TM 2 IR 12 Keepers

QB: Carson Wentz, P. Mahomes
RB: A. Jones, MGIII, Dobbins, L. Bell, Ingram, J Williams & Gaskin
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones, K. Allen, J Crowder, Humpries & Agolor
TE: E. Engram, Trey Burton, V Davis & J. Doyle

Team 2: 1QB 1 SF 3RB 5WR 2TE 2FLEX DEF 26 Keepers 2019 Champ :thumbup: 2020 third place

QB: J. Allen Wentz Watson D. Lock.
RB: Barkley Zeke CEH J. Robinson D. Freeman Penny
WR: M. Thomas Cooper Godwin Juju J. Washington Renfrow, Jeudy, R. Moore TreQuan, P. Williams
TE: Waller Engram OJH & Everett
DEF: Pats & Browns

Team 3: 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF K

QB: Wilson Wentz Tannehill Brees Haskins Foles
RB: CMC Zeke Miles CEH AP J. Jackson B. Scott
WR: Evans Adams Landry Metcalf E. Sanders Lazard
TE: Engram Hurts Ebron Herndon

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Re: Matty Ice value in 14 - Team SF

Postby Crouchy » Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:42 am

ravn88 wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:32 am
Crouchy wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:51 am Just offer him David Montgomery and be done with it.

But I do not think you will be trade partners on this deal!
Why would i pay premium price, and loose a starting player from my lineup?
Well personally I would not describe David Montgomery as Premium in any way!

You obviously want Ryan and imo this is a more acceptable price to pay for him in a 14 team league. If this is too much then what would you expect to pay?

Obviously I do not know who your next RB up is or what your draft picks are.

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Re: Matty Ice value in 14 - Team SF

Postby ravn88 » Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:11 am

Well he is a starting RB, Matt Ryan is 36 i a few months and might only have 2 seasons left.

Like one said, a late 1st would be fair.
Team 1 : 1QB 2RB 3 WR 1TE 1Flex 1K 1TM 2 IR 12 Keepers

QB: Carson Wentz, P. Mahomes
RB: A. Jones, MGIII, Dobbins, L. Bell, Ingram, J Williams & Gaskin
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones, K. Allen, J Crowder, Humpries & Agolor
TE: E. Engram, Trey Burton, V Davis & J. Doyle

Team 2: 1QB 1 SF 3RB 5WR 2TE 2FLEX DEF 26 Keepers 2019 Champ :thumbup: 2020 third place

QB: J. Allen Wentz Watson D. Lock.
RB: Barkley Zeke CEH J. Robinson D. Freeman Penny
WR: M. Thomas Cooper Godwin Juju J. Washington Renfrow, Jeudy, R. Moore TreQuan, P. Williams
TE: Waller Engram OJH & Everett
DEF: Pats & Browns

Team 3: 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF K

QB: Wilson Wentz Tannehill Brees Haskins Foles
RB: CMC Zeke Miles CEH AP J. Jackson B. Scott
WR: Evans Adams Landry Metcalf E. Sanders Lazard
TE: Engram Hurts Ebron Herndon

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Re: Matty Ice value in 14 - Team SF

Postby Crouchy » Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:01 am

ravn88 wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:21 pm He wants JJ straight up. Or 2 1sts.

My line up is

Burrow - QB
DJ / Big Ben - SF
Kamara rb1
Monty rb2
Ekeler rb3
Hill wr1
JJ wr2
Godwin wr3
Kelce

My depth is okey, but moving ekeler for Ryan would just quit a big gap at RB.
Wow is it really 3x RB starters in this 14 team league? That would make RB very valuable I guess!

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Re: Matty Ice value in 14 - Team SF

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:05 am

Crouchy wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:01 am
ravn88 wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:21 pm He wants JJ straight up. Or 2 1sts.

My line up is

Burrow - QB
DJ / Big Ben - SF
Kamara rb1
Monty rb2
Ekeler rb3
Hill wr1
JJ wr2
Godwin wr3
Kelce

My depth is okey, but moving ekeler for Ryan would just quit a big gap at RB.
Wow is it really 3x RB starters in this 14 team league? That would make RB very valuable I guess!
Given the 3 RB setting, Ekeler is much more valuable than I had originally thought even without being a believer at all.

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Re: Matty Ice value in 14 - Team SF

Postby ravn88 » Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:16 pm

Crouchy wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:01 am
ravn88 wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:21 pm He wants JJ straight up. Or 2 1sts.

My line up is

Burrow - QB
DJ / Big Ben - SF
Kamara rb1
Monty rb2
Ekeler rb3
Hill wr1
JJ wr2
Godwin wr3
Kelce

My depth is okey, but moving ekeler for Ryan would just quit a big gap at RB.
Wow is it really 3x RB starters in this 14 team league? That would make RB very valuable I guess!
Well no, it 3 WRs, 2 RBs and 1 flex but, the worst ranked starter is Monty at RB19, next guy up is either Gaskin at RB37 or Devante Parker at WR37

So that dropoff is to big compared to getting a 4th QB (even though he problably the best one year 1)
Team 1 : 1QB 2RB 3 WR 1TE 1Flex 1K 1TM 2 IR 12 Keepers

QB: Carson Wentz, P. Mahomes
RB: A. Jones, MGIII, Dobbins, L. Bell, Ingram, J Williams & Gaskin
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones, K. Allen, J Crowder, Humpries & Agolor
TE: E. Engram, Trey Burton, V Davis & J. Doyle

Team 2: 1QB 1 SF 3RB 5WR 2TE 2FLEX DEF 26 Keepers 2019 Champ :thumbup: 2020 third place

QB: J. Allen Wentz Watson D. Lock.
RB: Barkley Zeke CEH J. Robinson D. Freeman Penny
WR: M. Thomas Cooper Godwin Juju J. Washington Renfrow, Jeudy, R. Moore TreQuan, P. Williams
TE: Waller Engram OJH & Everett
DEF: Pats & Browns

Team 3: 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF K

QB: Wilson Wentz Tannehill Brees Haskins Foles
RB: CMC Zeke Miles CEH AP J. Jackson B. Scott
WR: Evans Adams Landry Metcalf E. Sanders Lazard
TE: Engram Hurts Ebron Herndon

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Re: Matty Ice value in 14 - Team SF

Postby zaner75 » Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:08 pm

Late 1st seems like a fair price to most but it is obviously not for him. Since you are the one desiring his player, it is more incumbent on you to budge if you want to make a trade. You have a limit that you will not cross (which is your right) but, as previously mentioned, I find it highly unlikely that you and the other owner will find a middle ground, and that's ok.

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Re: Matty Ice value in 14 - Team SF

Postby ravn88 » Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:19 am

A deal was finally made.
Price
Big Ben - D. Parker - Everett - 3.10 - 4.10 + 2022 2nd (late)

I was wondering - what is the difference between ARod and Matty Ice ? Ind this format ? And how long to you think each has left ?
Team 1 : 1QB 2RB 3 WR 1TE 1Flex 1K 1TM 2 IR 12 Keepers

QB: Carson Wentz, P. Mahomes
RB: A. Jones, MGIII, Dobbins, L. Bell, Ingram, J Williams & Gaskin
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones, K. Allen, J Crowder, Humpries & Agolor
TE: E. Engram, Trey Burton, V Davis & J. Doyle

Team 2: 1QB 1 SF 3RB 5WR 2TE 2FLEX DEF 26 Keepers 2019 Champ :thumbup: 2020 third place

QB: J. Allen Wentz Watson D. Lock.
RB: Barkley Zeke CEH J. Robinson D. Freeman Penny
WR: M. Thomas Cooper Godwin Juju J. Washington Renfrow, Jeudy, R. Moore TreQuan, P. Williams
TE: Waller Engram OJH & Everett
DEF: Pats & Browns

Team 3: 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF K

QB: Wilson Wentz Tannehill Brees Haskins Foles
RB: CMC Zeke Miles CEH AP J. Jackson B. Scott
WR: Evans Adams Landry Metcalf E. Sanders Lazard
TE: Engram Hurts Ebron Herndon


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