CEH value?

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Re: CEH value?

Postby Adam_172 » Wed Mar 03, 2021 5:56 pm

Anteaters wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:15 pm
Zhoward88 wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:49 pm With how bad everyone acts like CEH was it’s funny to think CEH scored as many points as Higgins in 3 less games played. So yea. Scoring same amount of points as the WR in close to a 1/4 less games is not something to scoff at. CEH could get the bulk of touches out of the backfield this year and hush a lot of silliness up really quick. He made a lot of plays this year. No problem at all going for the young RB in high scoring offense if it’s needed. Also no problem at all keeping the nice young WR tied to burrow.
Zhoward88 wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:19 pm For how people are portraying CEH you would think he had 400 total yards and 1 TD. Played 13 games, made some great plays and 1100 yards. Wouldn’t be surprised if he is a hot commodity next offseason after everyone slamming him this offseason.
His stats aren't bad. I don't hate him, but I don't trust him. I would be worried if I had to depend on him to be my RB1, and I'm not sure he's going to be a dependable RB2.

His overall stats for 2020 aren't bad at all, but let's break them down. His stats are very heavily weighted toward the 1st half of the season.

Games 1-8
Total Yds: 776
TDs: 2
Games Missed: 0
TotYds/Gm: 97

Games 9-16
Total Yds: 324
TDs: 3
Games Missed: 3
TotYds/Gm: 64.8

Postseason
Total Yds: 94
TDs: 1
Games Missed: 1
TotYds/Gm: 47


He declined as the year went on. CEH got 9 touches per game in the postseason - that's not the stat line of a feature RB. Either he got worse throughout the season, or Andy lost faith in him. Whatever the reason, CEH has a lot to prove to me in 2021 before I spend good assets to acquire him for 2021, or a I use high draft picks to draft him in redraft leagues.

I'd like to have him at my price, but there's no chance of that. If I can get him as my RB3/FLX, I'd take a chance. I want him on my team, but not if he's one of my top 2 RB going into the season. There are going to be others who value him higher than I do.
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Re: CEH value?

Postby MaddMadden » Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:04 pm

Higgins isn't a true #1 guy. If Burrow develops, that doesn't mean he can't be productive. CIN needs to bring in someone else. Maybe Burrow's college teammate.

CEH is being grossly undervalued. Something was up at the end of the year before his injury. KC losing Watkins frees up some work. Does need to improve pass protection to gain 3rd down duties.
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Re: CEH value?

Postby Pac_Eddy » Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:21 pm

I'd take the CEH side pretty easily.

I like Higgins, but RB scarcity is real, and I think CEH is undervalued right now too. Buy low.
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Re: CEH value?

Postby MaddMadden » Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:30 pm

CEH was still banged up in the playoffs, and that mysterious illness likely impacted him. He needs to sure up pass protections to get 3rd down duties and really shine. His role will increase as KC loses weapons. Big buy low guy.
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Re: CEH value?

Postby StripesOfKC » Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:14 pm

MaddMadden wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:04 pm Higgins isn't a true #1 guy. If Burrow develops, that doesn't mean he can't be productive. CIN needs to bring in someone else. Maybe Burrow's college teammate.

CEH is being grossly undervalued. Something was up at the end of the year before his injury. KC losing Watkins frees up some work. Does need to improve pass protection to gain 3rd down duties.
I think CEH is undervalued too

But Higgins is absolutely a number 1. Don't know how it can even be disputed after the man gets 900 yards as a rookie missing Burrow for a fourth of the year

Poor, poor Burrow if the Bengals take Chase instead of OL while having a number 1 and number 2 (Boyd) WR

That's the kind of pick that explains why bad franchises stay terrible forever


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