Start up cost for Mahomes in SF

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Start up cost for Mahomes in SF

Postby pmart33 » Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:21 am

Team 4 in sig. Start up draft (which includes 2021 rookies) is currently in progress. Through a couple different trades I ended up paying the following for Mahomes. I feel good about it, but others I have talked to feel like it was an over pay. Just curious where other stand on it.

Gave: Start up 2.11, Start up 5.11, my 2022 1st and 2022 3rd rookie picks.
Got: Mahomes, Start up 9.12, 2022 5th rookie pick
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TE Kelce

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12 Team PPR SF TE Prem
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex-WR/RB/TE

QB Kyler A-Rich
RB Dobbins Hull
WR Flowers London C. Watson Mingo
TE McBride Musgrave Mayer Fant

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Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE

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RB Taylor Hall Kyren Ekeler Pollard Z. White Dowdle
WR Lamb Puka Deebo Dionte M. Williams Zay Jones
TE Njoku Fant Hill
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Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE

QB Purdy Cousins Watson Levis Fields
RB Bijan Gibbs Barkley Walker Kyren
WR Lamb Hill Kupp Dell Diontae E. Moore Mims Pierce
TE Hockenson Goedert

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Re: Start up cost for Mahomes

Postby MyTeam » Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:27 am

Mahomes for me. Unless your first ends up being super early, which it shouldn't be with your QBs alone. Who were the best available with the picks? It will hurt your depth but Mahomes is the guy to have in SF and is about 2 tiers ahead of the 1.02.
Team 1: 12 team, PPR
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex

Mahomes, Lawrence
Najee, Swift, Javonte, Jamaal W, Murray
DK, DJM, Juju, Jameson, Gallup, Van
Pitts, Friermuth
1.01, 1.04, 1.11, 1.12, 3.10, 2 firsts next year

Team 2: 12 Team, SF TEP (1.5 PPR)
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex, 1 SF

Mahomes, Burrow, Cousins, Rudolph
CEH, Swift, Gibson, Jacobs, Mattison, Scott, McFarland
DK, AJB, Ridley, McLaurin, Kupp, Landry, Mims, Hamler, Miller, Johnson, Robinson
Andrews, H. Henry, Sternberger, Alie-Cox, Herndon

Same as Team 2
Watson, Burrow, Lance, Z. Wilson
Pollard, Mattison
Chase, D. Smith, Boyd, Hardman, E. Moore, Cephus, A. Rodgers, Harry, Boykin, A. Tate, Miller
Hockenson, Thomas, Albert O, Njoku
3 additional firsts

Same as Team 2
TLaw, Burrow, Watson, Darnold
CEH, Gus, Cohen
Juju, Chark, Shenault, Boyd, Landry, Renfrow, Robinson,
Engram, Kmet, Firkser, Schultz, Arnold, Herndon
5 additional firsts

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Re: Start up cost for Mahomes

Postby Gator Sens » Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:28 am

I don't think that is too bad of a price. Locking up Mahomes is huge in SF. You may be light on upper tier non QB players because of this deal, but building around Mahomes and Allen really helps.

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Re: Start up cost for Mahomes

Postby pmart33 » Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:30 am

MyTeam wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:27 am Mahomes for me. Unless your first ends up being super early, which it shouldn't be with your QBs alone. Who were the best available with the picks? It will hurt your depth but Mahomes is the guy to have in SF and is about 2 tiers ahead of the 1.02.
11 QBs were selected in the first 2 rounds, which didn't shock me. I made this deal at the start of the draft, but QBs that would have been on the board for me if I had stuck at 2.11 would have been Rodgers, Hurts, Tannehill, Tua and Baker.
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12 Team .5 PPR
Starters 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE

QB Hurts Love Cousins
RB CMC Stevenson Ekeler Mostert Spiller
WR Hill Puka Aiyuk Diggs
TE Kelce

Team 2
12 Team PPR SF TE Prem
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex-WR/RB/TE

QB Kyler A-Rich
RB Dobbins Hull
WR Flowers London C. Watson Mingo
TE McBride Musgrave Mayer Fant

1.01 1.03
4 2025 1sts
5 2026 1sts

Team 3
12 Team PPR SF
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE

QB Burrow Purdy Howell
RB Taylor Hall Kyren Ekeler Pollard Z. White Dowdle
WR Lamb Puka Deebo Dionte M. Williams Zay Jones
TE Njoku Fant Hill
2.01

Team 4
12 Team .5 PPR SF TE Prem 1 PPR
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE

QB Purdy Cousins Watson Levis Fields
RB Bijan Gibbs Barkley Walker Kyren
WR Lamb Hill Kupp Dell Diontae E. Moore Mims Pierce
TE Hockenson Goedert

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Re: Start up cost for Mahomes

Postby krtbuckeye » Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:36 am

I actually think that's a good price for Mahomes! I really like your start here with Mahomes, Allen (incredible QBs to build from BTW), Harris (a low risk rookie pick), and Hockenson (due to TE prem).
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Re: Start up cost for Mahomes

Postby MyTeam » Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:37 am

pmart33 wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:30 am
MyTeam wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:27 am Mahomes for me. Unless your first ends up being super early, which it shouldn't be with your QBs alone. Who were the best available with the picks? It will hurt your depth but Mahomes is the guy to have in SF and is about 2 tiers ahead of the 1.02.
11 QBs were selected in the first 2 rounds, which didn't shock me. I made this deal at the start of the draft, but QBs that would have been on the board for me if I had stuck at 2.11 would have been Rodgers, Hurts, Tannehill, Tua and Baker.
You would have no chance to upgrade one of those guys to Mahomes with a player with an ADP from 50-60 + a first and a second. I usually am a big fan of trading down in start ups but to lock in Mahomes this was a good value.
Team 1: 12 team, PPR
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex

Mahomes, Lawrence
Najee, Swift, Javonte, Jamaal W, Murray
DK, DJM, Juju, Jameson, Gallup, Van
Pitts, Friermuth
1.01, 1.04, 1.11, 1.12, 3.10, 2 firsts next year

Team 2: 12 Team, SF TEP (1.5 PPR)
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex, 1 SF

Mahomes, Burrow, Cousins, Rudolph
CEH, Swift, Gibson, Jacobs, Mattison, Scott, McFarland
DK, AJB, Ridley, McLaurin, Kupp, Landry, Mims, Hamler, Miller, Johnson, Robinson
Andrews, H. Henry, Sternberger, Alie-Cox, Herndon

Same as Team 2
Watson, Burrow, Lance, Z. Wilson
Pollard, Mattison
Chase, D. Smith, Boyd, Hardman, E. Moore, Cephus, A. Rodgers, Harry, Boykin, A. Tate, Miller
Hockenson, Thomas, Albert O, Njoku
3 additional firsts

Same as Team 2
TLaw, Burrow, Watson, Darnold
CEH, Gus, Cohen
Juju, Chark, Shenault, Boyd, Landry, Renfrow, Robinson,
Engram, Kmet, Firkser, Schultz, Arnold, Herndon
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Re: Start up cost for Mahomes

Postby pmart33 » Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:39 am

MyTeam wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:37 am
pmart33 wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:30 am
MyTeam wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:27 am Mahomes for me. Unless your first ends up being super early, which it shouldn't be with your QBs alone. Who were the best available with the picks? It will hurt your depth but Mahomes is the guy to have in SF and is about 2 tiers ahead of the 1.02.
11 QBs were selected in the first 2 rounds, which didn't shock me. I made this deal at the start of the draft, but QBs that would have been on the board for me if I had stuck at 2.11 would have been Rodgers, Hurts, Tannehill, Tua and Baker.
You would have no chance to upgrade one of those guys to Mahomes with a player with an ADP from 50-60 + a first and a second. I usually am a big fan of trading down in start ups but to lock in Mahomes this was a good value.
This was my thought process as well. Feels like in SF QBs are never cheaper than they are in the start up.
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WR Hill Puka Aiyuk Diggs
TE Kelce

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12 Team PPR SF TE Prem
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex-WR/RB/TE

QB Kyler A-Rich
RB Dobbins Hull
WR Flowers London C. Watson Mingo
TE McBride Musgrave Mayer Fant

1.01 1.03
4 2025 1sts
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12 Team PPR SF
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE

QB Burrow Purdy Howell
RB Taylor Hall Kyren Ekeler Pollard Z. White Dowdle
WR Lamb Puka Deebo Dionte M. Williams Zay Jones
TE Njoku Fant Hill
2.01

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12 Team .5 PPR SF TE Prem 1 PPR
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE

QB Purdy Cousins Watson Levis Fields
RB Bijan Gibbs Barkley Walker Kyren
WR Lamb Hill Kupp Dell Diontae E. Moore Mims Pierce
TE Hockenson Goedert

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Re: Start up cost for Mahomes in SF

Postby smmcfarl » Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:54 am

I like the trade. Locking up Mahomes and Allen is a great way to start in SF for sure.
12 team league - 1.0 PPR - 6pt TD's
Start 1Qb, 2Rb, 2Wr, 1Te, 2Flex, 1SF

Prescott, Brissett, Watson, Geno Smith, Corral
Mixon, Damien Harris, Carter, Jamaal Williams, Hines, Sermon, Ingram
Chase, Hill, DJ Moore, D. Smith, Marvin Jones, Shenault, R. Moore
Hockenson, Higbee, Smith, Otton

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Re: Start up cost for Mahomes in SF

Postby pmart33 » Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:59 am

pmart33 wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:21 am Team 4 in sig. Start up draft (which includes 2021 rookies) is currently in progress. Through a couple different trades I ended up paying the following for Mahomes. I feel good about it, but others I have talked to feel like it was an over pay. Just curious where others stand on it.

Gave: Start up 2.11, Start up 5.11, my 2022 1st and 2022 3rd rookie picks.
Got: Mahomes, 2022 5th rookie pick
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Team 1
12 Team .5 PPR
Starters 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE

QB Hurts Love Cousins
RB CMC Stevenson Ekeler Mostert Spiller
WR Hill Puka Aiyuk Diggs
TE Kelce

Team 2
12 Team PPR SF TE Prem
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex-WR/RB/TE

QB Kyler A-Rich
RB Dobbins Hull
WR Flowers London C. Watson Mingo
TE McBride Musgrave Mayer Fant

1.01 1.03
4 2025 1sts
5 2026 1sts

Team 3
12 Team PPR SF
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE

QB Burrow Purdy Howell
RB Taylor Hall Kyren Ekeler Pollard Z. White Dowdle
WR Lamb Puka Deebo Dionte M. Williams Zay Jones
TE Njoku Fant Hill
2.01

Team 4
12 Team .5 PPR SF TE Prem 1 PPR
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE

QB Purdy Cousins Watson Levis Fields
RB Bijan Gibbs Barkley Walker Kyren
WR Lamb Hill Kupp Dell Diontae E. Moore Mims Pierce
TE Hockenson Goedert

2.07
3 2025 1sts
4 2026 1sts

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Re: Start up cost for Mahomes in SF

Postby briank » Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:01 am

Mahomes easily for me.
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
TE Kelce/Irv
2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
RB CMC
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Aiyuk/Woods/R. Moore
TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
2x 2023 1sts

12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Lawrence/Fields
RB Harris/Etienne
WR Jefferson/Deebo/Lamb/DSmith/Sutton/Juedy/Kirk/E. Moore/R. Moore
TE Kittle/Pitts/Waller/Fant/Njoku
2022 1.01/1.12/2.02

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Re: Start up cost for Mahomes in SF

Postby pmart33 » Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:05 am

I was looking back on the deals I made and I forgot that I also received Start up 9.12 as part of my return along with Mahomes and a future 5th.
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Team 1
12 Team .5 PPR
Starters 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE

QB Hurts Love Cousins
RB CMC Stevenson Ekeler Mostert Spiller
WR Hill Puka Aiyuk Diggs
TE Kelce

Team 2
12 Team PPR SF TE Prem
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex-WR/RB/TE

QB Kyler A-Rich
RB Dobbins Hull
WR Flowers London C. Watson Mingo
TE McBride Musgrave Mayer Fant

1.01 1.03
4 2025 1sts
5 2026 1sts

Team 3
12 Team PPR SF
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE

QB Burrow Purdy Howell
RB Taylor Hall Kyren Ekeler Pollard Z. White Dowdle
WR Lamb Puka Deebo Dionte M. Williams Zay Jones
TE Njoku Fant Hill
2.01

Team 4
12 Team .5 PPR SF TE Prem 1 PPR
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE

QB Purdy Cousins Watson Levis Fields
RB Bijan Gibbs Barkley Walker Kyren
WR Lamb Hill Kupp Dell Diontae E. Moore Mims Pierce
TE Hockenson Goedert

2.07
3 2025 1sts
4 2026 1sts

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Re: Start up cost for Mahomes in SF

Postby ravn88 » Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:34 am

This is very easy one. Its Mahomes.

But I do Wonder why you went with N. Harris with your 4th. Pick i assume. TJ was your 3 rnd pick right ?

Could we for fun see who the other owner ended up with.
Team 1 : 1QB 2RB 3 WR 1TE 1Flex 1K 1TM 2 IR 12 Keepers

QB: Carson Wentz, P. Mahomes
RB: A. Jones, MGIII, Dobbins, L. Bell, Ingram, J Williams & Gaskin
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones, K. Allen, J Crowder, Humpries & Agolor
TE: E. Engram, Trey Burton, V Davis & J. Doyle

Team 2: 1QB 1 SF 3RB 5WR 2TE 2FLEX DEF 26 Keepers 2019 Champ :thumbup: 2020 third place

QB: J. Allen Wentz Watson D. Lock.
RB: Barkley Zeke CEH J. Robinson D. Freeman Penny
WR: M. Thomas Cooper Godwin Juju J. Washington Renfrow, Jeudy, R. Moore TreQuan, P. Williams
TE: Waller Engram OJH & Everett
DEF: Pats & Browns

Team 3: 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF K

QB: Wilson Wentz Tannehill Brees Haskins Foles
RB: CMC Zeke Miles CEH AP J. Jackson B. Scott
WR: Evans Adams Landry Metcalf E. Sanders Lazard
TE: Engram Hurts Ebron Herndon

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Re: Start up cost for Mahomes in SF

Postby Mtt33 » Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:35 am

In general this is very cheap. In a league you start 12 it’s still a fine price, but I don’t love moving my 2022 1st then not really putting together a win now team. Looks like you drafted hockenson really early here, youre going to have a hard time filling out those flex spots, need to start hammering WR.

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Re: Start up cost for Mahomes in SF

Postby pmart33 » Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:08 pm

ravn88 wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:34 am This is very easy one. Its Mahomes.

But I do Wonder why you went with N. Harris with your 4th. Pick i assume. TJ was your 3 rnd pick right ?

Could we for fun see who the other owner ended up with.
I certainly took a risk on Harris at 3.11, followed by Hock at 4.02. I wanted to lock up the TE spot and was okay swinging for the fences at RB. My thought process was worst case with this many flex spots he will be viable every week, even if he isn't a top end producer in a poor landing spot.

The draft is currently in the mid 5th round, so we don't have the full picture quite yet. But the owner I made the deal with ended up with Tyreek Hill at 2.11. his current roster is:

Tua, Hill, Hopkins, Ridley, Waller

Mine is:

Mahomes, Allen, N. Harris, Sanders, Hockenson
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Team 1
12 Team .5 PPR
Starters 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE

QB Hurts Love Cousins
RB CMC Stevenson Ekeler Mostert Spiller
WR Hill Puka Aiyuk Diggs
TE Kelce

Team 2
12 Team PPR SF TE Prem
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex-WR/RB/TE

QB Kyler A-Rich
RB Dobbins Hull
WR Flowers London C. Watson Mingo
TE McBride Musgrave Mayer Fant

1.01 1.03
4 2025 1sts
5 2026 1sts

Team 3
12 Team PPR SF
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE

QB Burrow Purdy Howell
RB Taylor Hall Kyren Ekeler Pollard Z. White Dowdle
WR Lamb Puka Deebo Dionte M. Williams Zay Jones
TE Njoku Fant Hill
2.01

Team 4
12 Team .5 PPR SF TE Prem 1 PPR
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE

QB Purdy Cousins Watson Levis Fields
RB Bijan Gibbs Barkley Walker Kyren
WR Lamb Hill Kupp Dell Diontae E. Moore Mims Pierce
TE Hockenson Goedert

2.07
3 2025 1sts
4 2026 1sts

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Re: Start up cost for Mahomes in SF

Postby ravn88 » Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:42 pm

pmart33 wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:08 pm
ravn88 wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:34 am This is very easy one. Its Mahomes.

But I do Wonder why you went with N. Harris with your 4th. Pick i assume. TJ was your 3 rnd pick right ?

Could we for fun see who the other owner ended up with.
I certainly took a risk on Harris at 3.11, followed by Hock at 4.02. I wanted to lock up the TE spot and was okay swinging for the fences at RB. My thought process was worst case with this many flex spots he will be viable every week, even if he isn't a top end producer in a poor landing spot.

The draft is currently in the mid 5th round, so we don't have the full picture quite yet. But the owner I made the deal with ended up with Tyreek Hill at 2.11. his current roster is:

Tua, Hill, Hopkins, Ridley, Waller

Mine is:

Mahomes, Allen, N. Harris, Sanders, Hockenson
Okey, Harris in the end of the 3th round is to early i think.

Who did you not pick at 3.11?
But lets see what happens with Harris
Team 1 : 1QB 2RB 3 WR 1TE 1Flex 1K 1TM 2 IR 12 Keepers

QB: Carson Wentz, P. Mahomes
RB: A. Jones, MGIII, Dobbins, L. Bell, Ingram, J Williams & Gaskin
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones, K. Allen, J Crowder, Humpries & Agolor
TE: E. Engram, Trey Burton, V Davis & J. Doyle

Team 2: 1QB 1 SF 3RB 5WR 2TE 2FLEX DEF 26 Keepers 2019 Champ :thumbup: 2020 third place

QB: J. Allen Wentz Watson D. Lock.
RB: Barkley Zeke CEH J. Robinson D. Freeman Penny
WR: M. Thomas Cooper Godwin Juju J. Washington Renfrow, Jeudy, R. Moore TreQuan, P. Williams
TE: Waller Engram OJH & Everett
DEF: Pats & Browns

Team 3: 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF K

QB: Wilson Wentz Tannehill Brees Haskins Foles
RB: CMC Zeke Miles CEH AP J. Jackson B. Scott
WR: Evans Adams Landry Metcalf E. Sanders Lazard
TE: Engram Hurts Ebron Herndon


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