Ever wonder why you get such bad trade offers

[zaner75]

Going through my daily fantasy reading and came across this gem. Check out this "expert" advice:

Lamar Jackson (QB – BAL)
“This time last year, Jackson was being taken as the No. 1 or No. 2 QB in dynasty leagues. A rough start to the season plummeted Jackson’s value, but he ended the season on a high note. Jackson was the QB2 over the final five weeks of the season, proving that he is still a top-tier fantasy QB. If you’re in a dynasty Superflex league, I’d be willing to spend a mid-to-late first-round draft pick along with an aging WR1 such as Julio Jones or Adam Thielen to acquire Jackson’s services.”
– Jacob W. Dunne (New Life Fantasy)

I guess anyone can create their own website and call themselves an expert. I would trust everyone in this forum more than this guy. Thanks for making this community great!

[krtbuckeye]

Yeah...that one is a head scratcher for sure.

[Gator Sens]

Reading is always great to see how some view an asset or dynasty in general, but way better to form your own opinion and roll to your beat. Also, gauging your own leagues and owners is key!! Bad trade offers are always just a part of it ha ha.

I'm not following the Jackson post...yikes.

[briank]

Going through my daily fantasy reading and came across this gem. Check out this "expert" advice:

Lamar Jackson (QB – BAL)
“This time last year, Jackson was being taken as the No. 1 or No. 2 QB in dynasty leagues. A rough start to the season plummeted Jackson’s value, but he ended the season on a high note. Jackson was the QB2 over the final five weeks of the season, proving that he is still a top-tier fantasy QB. If you’re in a dynasty Superflex league, I’d be willing to spend a mid-to-late first-round draft pick along with an aging WR1 such as Julio Jones or Adam Thielen to acquire Jackson’s services.”
– Jacob W. Dunne (New Life Fantasy)

I guess anyone can create their own website and call themselves an expert. I would trust everyone in this forum more than this guy. Thanks for making this community great!

I'm not a big fan of crapping on other peoples work regardless of how bad it is.

There a few reasons people send bad offers:

First and foremost, most people are bad at player valuations and especially bad with the ebbs and flows of value. Recency bias is unbelievably powerful in this community.

Too many people think they need to clearly win a trade.

People also think that starting with a low ball offer is a good way to start negotiating. For me, it's the opposite. It tells me that they aren't serious about getting a deal done and it ends the negotiation before it starts. It also tells me that this owner isn't reasonable and it makes me less likely to go to them with offers.

[bennythedog93]

Going through my daily fantasy reading and came across this gem. Check out this "expert" advice:

Lamar Jackson (QB – BAL)
“This time last year, Jackson was being taken as the No. 1 or No. 2 QB in dynasty leagues. A rough start to the season plummeted Jackson’s value, but he ended the season on a high note. Jackson was the QB2 over the final five weeks of the season, proving that he is still a top-tier fantasy QB. If you’re in a dynasty Superflex league, I’d be willing to spend a mid-to-late first-round draft pick along with an aging WR1 such as Julio Jones or Adam Thielen to acquire Jackson’s services.”
– Jacob W. Dunne (New Life Fantasy)

I guess anyone can create their own website and call themselves an expert. I would trust everyone in this forum more than this guy. Thanks for making this community great!

I'm not a big fan of crapping on other peoples work regardless of how bad it is.

There a few reasons people send bad offers:

First and foremost, most people are bad at player valuations and especially bad with the ebbs and flows of value. Recency bias is unbelievably powerful in this community.

Too many people think they need to clearly win a trade.

People also think that starting with a low ball offer is a good way to start negotiating. For me, it's the opposite. It tells me that they aren't serious about getting a deal done and it ends the negotiation before it starts. It also tells me that this owner isn't reasonable and it makes me less likely to go to them with offers.

I also think people overvalue their players due to them drafting them, loyalty, that one good year, etc.

John

[Gator Sens]

Going through my daily fantasy reading and came across this gem. Check out this "expert" advice:

Lamar Jackson (QB – BAL)
“This time last year, Jackson was being taken as the No. 1 or No. 2 QB in dynasty leagues. A rough start to the season plummeted Jackson’s value, but he ended the season on a high note. Jackson was the QB2 over the final five weeks of the season, proving that he is still a top-tier fantasy QB. If you’re in a dynasty Superflex league, I’d be willing to spend a mid-to-late first-round draft pick along with an aging WR1 such as Julio Jones or Adam Thielen to acquire Jackson’s services.”
– Jacob W. Dunne (New Life Fantasy)

I guess anyone can create their own website and call themselves an expert. I would trust everyone in this forum more than this guy. Thanks for making this community great!

I'm not a big fan of crapping on other peoples work regardless of how bad it is.

There a few reasons people send bad offers:

First and foremost, most people are bad at player valuations and especially bad with the ebbs and flows of value. Recency bias is unbelievably powerful in this community.

Too many people think they need to clearly win a trade.

People also think that starting with a low ball offer is a good way to start negotiating. For me, it's the opposite. It tells me that they aren't serious about getting a deal done and it ends the negotiation before it starts. It also tells me that this owner isn't reasonable and it makes me less likely to go to them with offers.

I also think people overvalue their players due to them drafting them, loyalty, that one good year, etc.

John

Liking your assets and build is another good call.

[DonBrazi]

1.01 - Listening to the wrong 'experts'
1.02 - Not forming their own opinions
1.03 - Not analysing their leagues
1.04 - Being unskilled at player valuation
1.05 - Recency bias
1.06 - Trying to clearly win trades
1.07 - Preferring to start negotiations with a low-ball offer
1.08 - Roster bias
1.09 - Availability heuristic (eg. not watching much football)
1.10 - Overconfidence
1.11 - Outcome bias
1.12 -

[Adam_172]

Everything is all well and good with hindsight lol

[Anteaters]

Going through my daily fantasy reading and came across this gem. Check out this "expert" advice:

I’d be willing to spend a mid-to-late first-round draft pick along with an aging WR1 such as Julio Jones or Adam Thielen to acquire Jackson’s services.”

That is a laughably ridiculous offer.

I'm in a basketball fantasy league where this one owner made approximately 10 ridiculous offers to me (for various players) in a span of about three weeks. At first, I just clicked NO. Then I clicked NO and replied with something like "That's not even close to what it will take." Then I'd respond with NO, the statement, and a counteroffer that was fair. He kept sending bad offers. I responded with NO, the statement, and a similarly unbalanced counteroffer in my favor. Still he kept making the bad offers. Finally, I responded with an absolutely ridiculous counteroffer -- and he finally got the point and stopped with the stupidity.

I hate when some of the experts make such ridiculous pronouncements. most fantasy owners are inept enough as it is with calculating player values. They don't need some idiot expert convincing them to make even more lowball offers.

[killer_of_giants]

Ever wonder why you get such bad trade offers

because my leaguemates think i'm an idiot (and they might be right!).

[Mjvb5]

Yeah I'd be willing to give that up too. I think anyone would be willing to give that up for Jackson no matter who your qbs were.
that's what a mid to late 1st and a second in value for a top 8 qb

[Gator Sens]

1.01 - Listening to the wrong 'experts'
1.02 - Not forming their own opinions
1.03 - Not analysing their leagues
1.04 - Being unskilled at player valuation
1.05 - Recency bias
1.06 - Trying to clearly win trades
1.07 - Preferring to start negotiations with a low-ball offer
1.08 - Roster bias
1.09 - Availability heuristic (eg. not watching much football)
1.10 - Overconfidence
1.11 - Outcome bias
1.12 -

Good stuff Don!

[Gator Sens]

Ever wonder why you get such bad trade offers

because my leaguemates think i'm an idiot (and they might be right!).

You and I may have that in common ha ha. I also feel like I get deals that are "explained" why it's good for my team.

[blacklab1010]

Ever wonder why you get such bad trade offers

because my leaguemates think i'm an idiot (and they might be right!).

You and I may have that in common ha ha. I also feel like I get deals that are "explained" why it's good for my team.

If your leaguemates have seen you make bad trades then the smell is in the water and the sharks will throw bad trades at you more

[krtbuckeye]

1.01 - Listening to the wrong 'experts'
1.02 - Not forming their own opinions
1.03 - Not analysing their leagues
1.04 - Being unskilled at player valuation
1.05 - Recency bias
1.06 - Trying to clearly win trades
1.07 - Preferring to start negotiations with a low-ball offer
1.08 - Roster bias
1.09 - Availability heuristic (eg. not watching much football)
1.10 - Overconfidence
1.11 - Outcome bias
1.12 -

1.01 - Listening to the wrong 'experts'
1.02 - Not forming their own opinions
1.03 - Not analysing their leagues
1.04 - Being unskilled at player valuation
1.05 - Recency bias
1.06 - Trying to clearly win trades
1.07 - Preferring to start negotiations with a low-ball offer
1.08 - Roster bias
1.09 - Availability heuristic (eg. not watching much football)
1.10 - Overconfidence
1.11 - Outcome bias
1.12 - Sunk Cost Fallacy (could also be a part of roster bias, but more based on not being willing to recoup lesser value on a failing asset relative to the initial investment cost)