Trading for JJ - Updated w/trade

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Trading for JJ - Updated w/trade

Postby Indyfan1985 » Wed Feb 17, 2021 3:52 pm

I am looking to acquire Justin Jefferson in my 10 team league below, and have the current offer out there to the JJ owner. Do you feel the offer is fair and if not what needs to be added to either side?

I am offering WR Adam Thielen, TE Darren Waller, and my 2022 1st round pick

I would be getting WR Justin Jefferson, TE Dallas Goedert, and his 2022 2nd round pick
Last edited by Indyfan1985 on Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:11 pm, edited 1 time in total.
2 QB PPR 10 Team League

2018 Champ, 2019 Champ

QB - Patrick Mahomes, Justin Herbert
WR - Michael Thomas, Calvin Ridley
RB - Saquon Barkley, Nick Chubb
TE - George Kittle
Flex - Jonathan Taylor, Justin Jefferson

Notable Bench Players - Joe Mixon, AJ Dillon, Zach Moss, Mike Evans, OBJ, Cooper Kupp, Ceedee Lamb, Diontae Johnson, Jalen Reagor, Carson Wentz, Austin Hooper

2021 Draft picks - 1, 1, 2, 2
2022 Draft picks - 1, 2, 2, 3

2 QB, 2 TE PPR 8 Team League

QB - Deshaun Watson, Baker Mayfield
WR - AJ Brown, Calvin Ridley
RB - CMC, Jonathan Taylor
TE - Dallas Goedert, TJ Hockenson
Flex - DJ Moore, Joe Mixon, Keenan Allen

Notable Bench Players - JK Dobbins, Antonio Gibson, Nyheim Hines, Ceedee Lamb, Jerry Jeudy, Diontae Johnson, DJ Chark, Michael Pittman Jr, Carson Wentz, Eric Ebron, Robert Tonyan

2021 Draft picks - 1, 2, 2, 2, 4
2022 Draft picks - 1, 1, 3, 4

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Re: Trading for JJ

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Feb 17, 2021 3:55 pm

The other owner would have to be very high on Waller for this to have any shot. This offseason will be a very tough time to land Jefferson after the season he just had. It will likely take a huge overpay.

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Re: Trading for JJ

Postby Madadamus » Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:41 pm

I’m sorry but that’s a laughable offer. You’re going to have to double it to have a shot.
12 Team PPR Dynasty - DLFS
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 2 RB/WR/TE, 1 QB/RB/WR/TE, 1 TE
QB: J. Burrow, M. Stafford, C. Wentz, T. Brady
RB: S. Barkley, E. Elliott, D. Swift, C. Edwards-Helaire, J. Dobbins, A. Gibson, K. Drake, G. Edwards
WR: M. Evans, T. Higgins, B. Aiyuk, W. Fuller, J. Reagor, C. Davis, M. Pittman, B. Perriman, R. Cobb
TE: D. Waller, M. Gesicki, H. Hurst, D. Njoku, E. Ebron, J. Akins, C. Brate
2021 Picks: 1.08, 4.05
2022 Picks: 2022 1st (mid), 2022 3rd, 2022 4th (mid), 2022 4th

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1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 2 RB/WR/TE, 1 QB/RB/WR/TE, 1 TE
QB: J. Herbert, M. Stafford, J. Winston, D. Lock, M. Mariota, J. Stidham, R. Fitzpatrick
RB: C. McCaffrey, A. Kamara, E. Elliott, J. Dobbin, J. Mixon, A. Mattison, J. White, L. Bell
WR: D. Moore, J. Jeudy, O. Beckham Jr., C. Claypool, C. Davis. D. Parker, L. Fitzgerald, B. Perriman, W. Snead
TE: E. Engram, C. Kmet, C. Herndon, K. Warring
2021 Picks: 1.10, 2.10, 3.10, 4.10

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Re: Trading for JJ

Postby Indyfan1985 » Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:54 pm

Madadamus wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:41 pm
I’m sorry but that’s a laughable offer. You’re going to have to double it to have a shot.
I really don't think it's laughable at all. Waller is a top dynasty TE in a tier with Kelce and Kittle. And I agree I may have to add to it some but I don't think I would have to double the offer by any means.
2 QB PPR 10 Team League

2018 Champ, 2019 Champ

QB - Patrick Mahomes, Justin Herbert
WR - Michael Thomas, Calvin Ridley
RB - Saquon Barkley, Nick Chubb
TE - George Kittle
Flex - Jonathan Taylor, Justin Jefferson

Notable Bench Players - Joe Mixon, AJ Dillon, Zach Moss, Mike Evans, OBJ, Cooper Kupp, Ceedee Lamb, Diontae Johnson, Jalen Reagor, Carson Wentz, Austin Hooper

2021 Draft picks - 1, 1, 2, 2
2022 Draft picks - 1, 2, 2, 3

2 QB, 2 TE PPR 8 Team League

QB - Deshaun Watson, Baker Mayfield
WR - AJ Brown, Calvin Ridley
RB - CMC, Jonathan Taylor
TE - Dallas Goedert, TJ Hockenson
Flex - DJ Moore, Joe Mixon, Keenan Allen

Notable Bench Players - JK Dobbins, Antonio Gibson, Nyheim Hines, Ceedee Lamb, Jerry Jeudy, Diontae Johnson, DJ Chark, Michael Pittman Jr, Carson Wentz, Eric Ebron, Robert Tonyan

2021 Draft picks - 1, 2, 2, 2, 4
2022 Draft picks - 1, 1, 3, 4

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Re: Trading for JJ

Postby Mtt33 » Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:07 pm

Indyfan1985 wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:54 pm
Madadamus wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:41 pm
I’m sorry but that’s a laughable offer. You’re going to have to double it to have a shot.
I really don't think it's laughable at all. Waller is a top dynasty TE in a tier with Kelce and Kittle. And I agree I may have to add to it some but I don't think I would have to double the offer by any means.
It’s a pretty low ball offer. You for sure shouldn’t be getting Goedert and the 2 back.

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Re: Trading for JJ

Postby tsarpepe » Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:24 pm

I also doubt this gets accepted. I suggest you take the TEs and the 22-2 out of the deal and add DJM.

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Re: Trading for JJ

Postby Indyfan1985 » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:14 pm

Now he's saying he'd do the deal if I removed Goedert from it.
2 QB PPR 10 Team League

2018 Champ, 2019 Champ

QB - Patrick Mahomes, Justin Herbert
WR - Michael Thomas, Calvin Ridley
RB - Saquon Barkley, Nick Chubb
TE - George Kittle
Flex - Jonathan Taylor, Justin Jefferson

Notable Bench Players - Joe Mixon, AJ Dillon, Zach Moss, Mike Evans, OBJ, Cooper Kupp, Ceedee Lamb, Diontae Johnson, Jalen Reagor, Carson Wentz, Austin Hooper

2021 Draft picks - 1, 1, 2, 2
2022 Draft picks - 1, 2, 2, 3

2 QB, 2 TE PPR 8 Team League

QB - Deshaun Watson, Baker Mayfield
WR - AJ Brown, Calvin Ridley
RB - CMC, Jonathan Taylor
TE - Dallas Goedert, TJ Hockenson
Flex - DJ Moore, Joe Mixon, Keenan Allen

Notable Bench Players - JK Dobbins, Antonio Gibson, Nyheim Hines, Ceedee Lamb, Jerry Jeudy, Diontae Johnson, DJ Chark, Michael Pittman Jr, Carson Wentz, Eric Ebron, Robert Tonyan

2021 Draft picks - 1, 2, 2, 2, 4
2022 Draft picks - 1, 1, 3, 4

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Re: Trading for JJ

Postby krtbuckeye » Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:17 pm

Indyfan1985 wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:14 pm
Now he's saying he'd do the deal if I removed Goedert from it.
This is a steal, smash accept!
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10 Team, PPR, Roster: 28+2 IR
Start: QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, FLEX (RB/WR), FLEX (RB/WR/TE), K, 2 DL, LB, 2 DB, IDP FLEX

**IDP scoring is tackle heavy (1.0 solo and asst), no points for QBH or TFL, low-medium impact overall. Effectively caps DL scoring. Adding additional IDP FLEX in 2022.**

2017: took over last place orphan, made playoffs
2018: 2nd Place🥈
2019: 2nd Place🥈
2020: Champions 🏆

QB: Josh Allen, Russell Wilson
RB: Jonathan Taylor, D’Andre Swift, J.K. Dobbins, Antonio Gibson, Tony Pollard, Alexander Mattison, Gus Edwards, Jamaal Williams, Mike Davis
WR: Davante Adams, Stefon Diggs, DK Metcalf, Terry McLaurin, Michael Gallup, A.J. Green, Quintez Cephus
TE: Travis Kelce, Darren Waller, Irv Smith Jr.
K: Rodrigo Blankenship
DL: Danielle Hunter, (will add after additional roster spot is added to accommodate)
LB: Bobby Wagner, Jaylon Smith, Isaiah Simmons
DB: Budda Baker, Derwin James

Picks Held:
2021: None
2022: None
2023: 1st

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Re: Trading for JJ

Postby Indyfan1985 » Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:31 pm

An update that I made the following trade

I dealt WR Adam Theilen, TE Darren Waller, and my 2022 1st round pick

I got WR Justin Jefferson, TE Austin Hooper, and his 2022 2nd round pick

Yes I lose my very dependable TE in Waller that I used when Kittle was out this past year, but I'm betting on Theilen starting to decline at age 31 when the season starts, and Waller may have maxed out being the target hog in the Raiders offense these past 2 years.

Now I have an additional cornerstone piece on my roster in Jefferson, and in this past 2020 rookie draft alone I ended up with studs JT, JJ, Herbert, and Lamb.
2 QB PPR 10 Team League

2018 Champ, 2019 Champ

QB - Patrick Mahomes, Justin Herbert
WR - Michael Thomas, Calvin Ridley
RB - Saquon Barkley, Nick Chubb
TE - George Kittle
Flex - Jonathan Taylor, Justin Jefferson

Notable Bench Players - Joe Mixon, AJ Dillon, Zach Moss, Mike Evans, OBJ, Cooper Kupp, Ceedee Lamb, Diontae Johnson, Jalen Reagor, Carson Wentz, Austin Hooper

2021 Draft picks - 1, 1, 2, 2
2022 Draft picks - 1, 2, 2, 3

2 QB, 2 TE PPR 8 Team League

QB - Deshaun Watson, Baker Mayfield
WR - AJ Brown, Calvin Ridley
RB - CMC, Jonathan Taylor
TE - Dallas Goedert, TJ Hockenson
Flex - DJ Moore, Joe Mixon, Keenan Allen

Notable Bench Players - JK Dobbins, Antonio Gibson, Nyheim Hines, Ceedee Lamb, Jerry Jeudy, Diontae Johnson, DJ Chark, Michael Pittman Jr, Carson Wentz, Eric Ebron, Robert Tonyan

2021 Draft picks - 1, 2, 2, 2, 4
2022 Draft picks - 1, 1, 3, 4

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Re: Trading for JJ

Postby Gator Sens » Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:36 am

Indyfan1985 wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:31 pm
An update that I made the following trade

I dealt WR Adam Theilen, TE Darren Waller, and my 2022 1st round pick

I got WR Justin Jefferson, TE Austin Hooper, and his 2022 2nd round pick

Yes I lose my very dependable TE in Waller that I used when Kittle was out this past year, but I'm betting on Theilen starting to decline at age 31 when the season starts, and Waller may have maxed out being the target hog in the Raiders offense these past 2 years.

Now I have an additional cornerstone piece on my roster in Jefferson, and in this past 2020 rookie draft alone I ended up with studs JT, JJ, Herbert, and Lamb.
Nice deal in the end to lock up Jefferson. This looks very good long term too. Congrats on getting your guy!

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Re: Trading for JJ

Postby Indyfan1985 » Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:15 am

Gator Sens wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:36 am
Indyfan1985 wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:31 pm
An update that I made the following trade

I dealt WR Adam Theilen, TE Darren Waller, and my 2022 1st round pick

I got WR Justin Jefferson, TE Austin Hooper, and his 2022 2nd round pick

Yes I lose my very dependable TE in Waller that I used when Kittle was out this past year, but I'm betting on Theilen starting to decline at age 31 when the season starts, and Waller may have maxed out being the target hog in the Raiders offense these past 2 years.

Now I have an additional cornerstone piece on my roster in Jefferson, and in this past 2020 rookie draft alone I ended up with studs JT, JJ, Herbert, and Lamb.
Nice deal in the end to lock up Jefferson. This looks very good long term too. Congrats on getting your guy!
Do you think this at all hurts my chances at another championship this year by getting rid of win now pieces in Waller and Theilen? Or does my roster offset it?
2 QB PPR 10 Team League

2018 Champ, 2019 Champ

QB - Patrick Mahomes, Justin Herbert
WR - Michael Thomas, Calvin Ridley
RB - Saquon Barkley, Nick Chubb
TE - George Kittle
Flex - Jonathan Taylor, Justin Jefferson

Notable Bench Players - Joe Mixon, AJ Dillon, Zach Moss, Mike Evans, OBJ, Cooper Kupp, Ceedee Lamb, Diontae Johnson, Jalen Reagor, Carson Wentz, Austin Hooper

2021 Draft picks - 1, 1, 2, 2
2022 Draft picks - 1, 2, 2, 3

2 QB, 2 TE PPR 8 Team League

QB - Deshaun Watson, Baker Mayfield
WR - AJ Brown, Calvin Ridley
RB - CMC, Jonathan Taylor
TE - Dallas Goedert, TJ Hockenson
Flex - DJ Moore, Joe Mixon, Keenan Allen

Notable Bench Players - JK Dobbins, Antonio Gibson, Nyheim Hines, Ceedee Lamb, Jerry Jeudy, Diontae Johnson, DJ Chark, Michael Pittman Jr, Carson Wentz, Eric Ebron, Robert Tonyan

2021 Draft picks - 1, 2, 2, 2, 4
2022 Draft picks - 1, 1, 3, 4

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Re: Trading for JJ - Updated w/trade

Postby jwb32 » Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:34 am

This is silly cheap for JJ. JJ is a top 10 (5??) dynasty asset. Theilen is little more than a throw in here. Getting a 2nd back makes it even more lopsided. Wow....just wow.
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar
RBs- Cook, Sanders, CEH, Michel,Murray,Mattison,LPerine
WRs- Diggs, McLaurin, Golladay, Cooks, OBJ, Reagor,MWill, Crowder,Mooney
TEs-Waller, Fant
2.12, 3.09

TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 1Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson,Ryan,Darnold
RBs- Akers, Gaskin, Dallas, Kelley
WRs- DJM,Godwin,Diontae,Shenault,Samuel, Mooney, Harry, Devernay, Etc.
TEs- Hock, Bryant, Trautman
1.02,1.05,1.12,2.02,3.02,3.04

TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Darnold
RBs- Cook, RoJo, Gaskin, DHarris, Penny, Murray, Snell
WRs- Allen, DJM, Julio, Boyd, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller,LThomas,Trautman
1.06, 1.08, 1.11, 2.12, 3.08

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Re: Trading for JJ - Updated w/trade

Postby Jcedwards » Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:37 am

I think you did really well here. Waller is a stud no doubt, but you have Kittle, who should return to form if he can stay healthy. I agree that Thielen may start declining soon, so its best to jump off the ride before that happens. As stated above, JJ is a top 10, maybe even top 5 dynasty asset going forward.
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QB- Mahomes / Carr / Winston
RB- Kamara / Barkley / Aaron Jones / Akers / Lat Murray / Wilson / Cohen / Pollard
WR- M Thomas / Cooper / Golladay / Diontae Johnson / Meyers / Mooney
TE- Waller / Goedert / Ertz
D/ST- Bills / Bears / Dolphins
K- Butker

IR/ CVD - Sutton, Rashard Higgins

Taxi- Dillon / Gabe Davis / Harrison Bryant

Picks- 2021: 1.05, 2.06, 3.08
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Re: Trading for JJ

Postby Gator Sens » Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:47 am

Indyfan1985 wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:15 am
Gator Sens wrote:
Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:36 am
Indyfan1985 wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:31 pm
An update that I made the following trade

I dealt WR Adam Theilen, TE Darren Waller, and my 2022 1st round pick

I got WR Justin Jefferson, TE Austin Hooper, and his 2022 2nd round pick

Yes I lose my very dependable TE in Waller that I used when Kittle was out this past year, but I'm betting on Theilen starting to decline at age 31 when the season starts, and Waller may have maxed out being the target hog in the Raiders offense these past 2 years.

Now I have an additional cornerstone piece on my roster in Jefferson, and in this past 2020 rookie draft alone I ended up with studs JT, JJ, Herbert, and Lamb.
Nice deal in the end to lock up Jefferson. This looks very good long term too. Congrats on getting your guy!
Do you think this at all hurts my chances at another championship this year by getting rid of win now pieces in Waller and Theilen? Or does my roster offset it?
Waller may hurt a bit, but you have Kittle right? You landed a huge piece which is big especially long term.

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Re: Trading for JJ - Updated w/trade

Postby krtbuckeye » Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:29 am

What a great deal for you! Congrats!!
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10 Team, PPR, Roster: 28+2 IR
Start: QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, FLEX (RB/WR), FLEX (RB/WR/TE), K, 2 DL, LB, 2 DB, IDP FLEX

**IDP scoring is tackle heavy (1.0 solo and asst), no points for QBH or TFL, low-medium impact overall. Effectively caps DL scoring. Adding additional IDP FLEX in 2022.**

2017: took over last place orphan, made playoffs
2018: 2nd Place🥈
2019: 2nd Place🥈
2020: Champions 🏆

QB: Josh Allen, Russell Wilson
RB: Jonathan Taylor, D’Andre Swift, J.K. Dobbins, Antonio Gibson, Tony Pollard, Alexander Mattison, Gus Edwards, Jamaal Williams, Mike Davis
WR: Davante Adams, Stefon Diggs, DK Metcalf, Terry McLaurin, Michael Gallup, A.J. Green, Quintez Cephus
TE: Travis Kelce, Darren Waller, Irv Smith Jr.
K: Rodrigo Blankenship
DL: Danielle Hunter, (will add after additional roster spot is added to accommodate)
LB: Bobby Wagner, Jaylon Smith, Isaiah Simmons
DB: Budda Baker, Derwin James

Picks Held:
2021: None
2022: None
2023: 1st


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