Tua+ or Burrow+

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Which side?

Tua + Chark
1
7%
Burrow + 2.05 + 2.10 + 2.11
14
93%
 
Total votes: 15

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Tua+ or Burrow+

Postby blemly » Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:55 pm

14-team SF league. 4pt/passing TD with deep starting requirements (11 starters - QB/SF/RB/RB/WR/WR/WR/TE/FLX/ FLX/FLX)

What is the gap between Tua and Burrow? I’m a DJ Chark fan, but have the following offer out.

Give: Tua + Chark
Get: Burrow + 2.05 + 2.10 + 2.11
Team 1: 12-team SF 0.5 PPR:
QB: Dak, Russ, Goff, Dalton
RB: CMC, Gibson, Sanders, Davis, Cohen
WR: DK, MT, Godwin, Chark, Samuel, Shepard, Mims
TE: Fant, Hurst, Knox
2.06, 2.11

Team 2: 14-team PPR SF TE Prem:
QB: Wilson, Burrow, Foles, Mullens
RB: Mixon, Gibson, Hines, Cohen
WR: DJM, Sutton, Landry, Renfrow
TE: Gesicki, Njoku, Trautman
2.05, 2.11, 2.13, 2.14

Team 3: 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Watson, Lawrence, Cam
RB: Barkley, Jacobs, Dobbins
WR: Hill, AJB, Arob, Woods, Perriman, Shenault
TE: Gesicki, OJH

Team 4 (Rebuild): 12-team PPR SF TE Prem
QB: Watson, Stafford
RB: Dobbins, Swift, Akers, Gibson
WR: Lamb, Diontae, Pittman, Mims, Shenault, Campbell, Shepard
TE: Knox, Jarwin, Trautman
1.04, 1.10, 2.04, 2.08

Team 5 (Rebuild): 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Dak
RB: Sanders, Dobbins, Pollard
WR: Sutton, DJM, Golladay, Pittman, Edwards, Kirk, Campbell, Mims, Hamler
TE: Herndon, Gesicki
2021: 1.02, 1.03, 1.05, 1.06, 2.02

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Re: Tua+ or Burrow+

Postby Gator Sens » Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:01 pm

I would easily take the Burrow side. He is much more valuable than Tua given the number of teams. Chark has upside, but is not a sure fire asset. You could hit on a Chark type player with one of the picks coming back.

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Re: Tua+ or Burrow+

Postby blemly » Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:11 pm

Gator Sens wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:01 pm
I would easily take the Burrow side. He is much more valuable than Tua given the number of teams. Chark has upside, but is not a sure fire asset. You could hit on a Chark type player with one of the picks coming back.
I think I’m in the same boat. Part of my hesitation lies in the fact that I think Tua and Chark’s value rises this offseason and this might not be the right time to sell, but that’s a speculative reason for passing up a good deal.
Team 1: 12-team SF 0.5 PPR:
QB: Dak, Russ, Goff, Dalton
RB: CMC, Gibson, Sanders, Davis, Cohen
WR: DK, MT, Godwin, Chark, Samuel, Shepard, Mims
TE: Fant, Hurst, Knox
2.06, 2.11

Team 2: 14-team PPR SF TE Prem:
QB: Wilson, Burrow, Foles, Mullens
RB: Mixon, Gibson, Hines, Cohen
WR: DJM, Sutton, Landry, Renfrow
TE: Gesicki, Njoku, Trautman
2.05, 2.11, 2.13, 2.14

Team 3: 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Watson, Lawrence, Cam
RB: Barkley, Jacobs, Dobbins
WR: Hill, AJB, Arob, Woods, Perriman, Shenault
TE: Gesicki, OJH

Team 4 (Rebuild): 12-team PPR SF TE Prem
QB: Watson, Stafford
RB: Dobbins, Swift, Akers, Gibson
WR: Lamb, Diontae, Pittman, Mims, Shenault, Campbell, Shepard
TE: Knox, Jarwin, Trautman
1.04, 1.10, 2.04, 2.08

Team 5 (Rebuild): 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Dak
RB: Sanders, Dobbins, Pollard
WR: Sutton, DJM, Golladay, Pittman, Edwards, Kirk, Campbell, Mims, Hamler
TE: Herndon, Gesicki
2021: 1.02, 1.03, 1.05, 1.06, 2.02

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Re: Tua+ or Burrow+

Postby Disaman74 » Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:20 pm

Burrow here pretty easily. I think Tua will be a good QB, but who know where he ends up? The picks could easily hit in a similar WR
12 team DYNASTY w/ 1/2 PPR
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 2FLEX, 1TE, 1DEF, 9BCH, 2IR
2020 - 2nd place
QB: Rothesburger, Mayfield, Tua
RB: Swift, Dobbins, Hunt, D.Harris
WR: Hopkins, Dionte Johnson, A.Robinson , Kirk, Smith-schuster, C.Davis, Pittman
TE: Andrews, Ertz, Herndon
FLEX: Akers (RB), R.Jones (RB)
DEF: Steelers

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Re: Tua+ or Burrow+

Postby krtbuckeye » Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:25 pm

Burrow, and it’s not that close to me. The picks are in a range where you can land some decent prospects that I’d be willing to gamble on for Chark. Great QB upgrade!
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Start: QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, FLEX (RB/WR), FLEX (RB/WR/TE), K, 2 DL, LB, 2 DB, IDP FLEX

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2017: took over last place orphan, made playoffs
2018: 2nd Place🥈
2019: 2nd Place🥈
2020: Champions 🏆

QB: Josh Allen, Russell Wilson
RB: Jonathan Taylor, D’Andre Swift, J.K. Dobbins, Antonio Gibson, Tony Pollard, Alexander Mattison, Gus Edwards, Jamaal Williams, Mike Davis
WR: Davante Adams, Stefon Diggs, DK Metcalf, Terry McLaurin, Michael Gallup, A.J. Green, Quintez Cephus
TE: Travis Kelce, Darren Waller, Irv Smith Jr.
K: Rodrigo Blankenship
DL: Danielle Hunter, (will add after additional roster spot is added to accommodate)
LB: Bobby Wagner, Jaylon Smith, Isaiah Simmons
DB: Budda Baker, Derwin James

Picks Held:
2021: None
2022: None
2023: 1st

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Re: Tua+ or Burrow+

Postby realmacaroni » Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:00 pm

you're trying to land Burrow, correct? not gonna happen with that offer, i don't think. if it does, you are very stoked.

Suppose in SF the 6 big QB prospects all go before the 2.5, you essentially now have picks 13, 18 and 19 of non-QBs in the draft. Tua and Chark is grossly under value for those 4 assets
SF - 12t - PPR
QB: Mahomes - Dak - Brissett - Eason - Rosen
RB: A Jones - A Ekeler - AJ Dillon - J Willimas - J Jackson - J Kelley - B Snell - A McFarland - J Samuels - M Boone
WR: M Thomas - D Johnson - D Parker - J Crowder - V Jefferson - J Reynolds - Z Pascal - D Duvernay - J Hurd
TE: Kelce - Herndon - Alie-Cox
DEF: Rams - Jets - 49ers

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Re: Tua+ or Burrow+

Postby blemly » Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:26 pm

Update:

Deal is done with slight modifications.

Gave: Tua + Chark + 4.10
Got: Burrow + 2.05 + 2.10 + 2.13
Team 1: 12-team SF 0.5 PPR:
QB: Dak, Russ, Goff, Dalton
RB: CMC, Gibson, Sanders, Davis, Cohen
WR: DK, MT, Godwin, Chark, Samuel, Shepard, Mims
TE: Fant, Hurst, Knox
2.06, 2.11

Team 2: 14-team PPR SF TE Prem:
QB: Wilson, Burrow, Foles, Mullens
RB: Mixon, Gibson, Hines, Cohen
WR: DJM, Sutton, Landry, Renfrow
TE: Gesicki, Njoku, Trautman
2.05, 2.11, 2.13, 2.14

Team 3: 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Watson, Lawrence, Cam
RB: Barkley, Jacobs, Dobbins
WR: Hill, AJB, Arob, Woods, Perriman, Shenault
TE: Gesicki, OJH

Team 4 (Rebuild): 12-team PPR SF TE Prem
QB: Watson, Stafford
RB: Dobbins, Swift, Akers, Gibson
WR: Lamb, Diontae, Pittman, Mims, Shenault, Campbell, Shepard
TE: Knox, Jarwin, Trautman
1.04, 1.10, 2.04, 2.08

Team 5 (Rebuild): 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Dak
RB: Sanders, Dobbins, Pollard
WR: Sutton, DJM, Golladay, Pittman, Edwards, Kirk, Campbell, Mims, Hamler
TE: Herndon, Gesicki
2021: 1.02, 1.03, 1.05, 1.06, 2.02

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Re: Tua+ or Burrow+

Postby Edgy68 » Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:37 pm

I thought your initial post did imply the offer was real. Nicely done, even with the modification. Those 2nds will come in handy when everyone sees who slips down the board in a SF draft.
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12-team, PPR 25 roster 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1(RB/WR/TE), 1 D/ST
QB D. Brees, L. Jackson, J. Burrow
RB D. Henry, M. Sanders, CEH, J. Dobbins, J. Taylor, A. Matt., J. Hill, K. Vaughn, S. Phillips
WR M. Thomas, C. Sutton, C. Ridley, C. Lamb, T. Higgins, JJAW, J. Hurd, J. Reynolds, T. Patrick, I. Ford, Q. Watkins, J. Meyers, C. Johnson
TE T. Kelce, D. Goedert, L. Thomas, A. O
D/ST MIN, TEN, DEN
2021 1.07, 1.10, 1.11, 3.11, 4.11, 5.11

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12-team SF, .5 PPR 35 roster: 1QB, 1SF, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FLEX, 2DB, 2LB, 2DL, 1FLEX
QB M. Stafford, C. Wentz, D. Brees, J. Burrow
RB J. Mixon, E. Elliott, N. Chubb, D. Swift, G. Bernard, B. Scott, S. Phillips
WR D. Hopkins, Jefferson, C. Godwin, Juju, J. Gordon, G. Davis, P. Williams, M. Boykin, AGG
TE T. Kelce, Z. Ertz, D. Goedert, A. O
DB J. Poyer, J. Johnson, J. Simmons
DL D. Hunter, Okwara, H. Landry, D. Lawrence
LB C. Mosley, Z. Cunningham, R. Evans, K. Alexander, P. Queen, T. Adams
2021 3.05, 4.08

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Re: Tua+ or Burrow+

Postby MyTeam » Tue Feb 02, 2021 4:16 pm

Wow. Great deal for you!
Team 1: 12 team, PPR, 25 Keepers
1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex (RB/WR/TE)

QB: Cousins, Mayfield
RB: Elliott, Barkley, JT, Robinson, Johnson, Armstead, Brown, Hill
WR: Hill, DK, AJB, Juju, Sutton, Gallup, Shenault, Jeffrey, Patterson, Sims
TE: Henry, Goedert, Okwuegbunam, Trautman, Knox
1.06, 1.11, 2.01, 2.11

Team 2: 12 Team, SF TE Premium (1.5 PPR), 30 Keepers
1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 SF (QB/RB/WR/TE)

QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Cousins, Rudolph
RB: CEH, Swift, Gibson, A. Mattison, B. Scott, McFarland, Love, Armstead
WR: DK, McLaurin, Kupp, Jeudy, Landry, Mims, Hamler, Miller, Johnson, Harmon, Robinson, Bourne
TE: Andrews, Sternberger, Alie-Cox, Herndon
2021 Picks - 1.05, 1.09
Extra first in 2022 & 2023

Team 3: 12 Team, SF TE Premium (1.5 PPR), 30 Keepers
1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 SF (QB/RB/WR/TE)
Watson, Burrow
Pollard, Mattison, Edwards
Chark, Boyd, C. Davis, Hardman, Cephus, Harry
Hockenson, Thomas, Albert O., Njoku
1.03, 1.04, 1.08, 1.11

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Re: Tua+ or Burrow+

Postby blemly » Tue Feb 02, 2021 4:24 pm

MyTeam wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 4:16 pm
Wow. Great deal for you!
I still believe in Tua’s talent, but this is one of those trades where I think the difference between he and Burrow is greater than 2.05, 2.10, and 2.13 v Chark.
Team 1: 12-team SF 0.5 PPR:
QB: Dak, Russ, Goff, Dalton
RB: CMC, Gibson, Sanders, Davis, Cohen
WR: DK, MT, Godwin, Chark, Samuel, Shepard, Mims
TE: Fant, Hurst, Knox
2.06, 2.11

Team 2: 14-team PPR SF TE Prem:
QB: Wilson, Burrow, Foles, Mullens
RB: Mixon, Gibson, Hines, Cohen
WR: DJM, Sutton, Landry, Renfrow
TE: Gesicki, Njoku, Trautman
2.05, 2.11, 2.13, 2.14

Team 3: 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Watson, Lawrence, Cam
RB: Barkley, Jacobs, Dobbins
WR: Hill, AJB, Arob, Woods, Perriman, Shenault
TE: Gesicki, OJH

Team 4 (Rebuild): 12-team PPR SF TE Prem
QB: Watson, Stafford
RB: Dobbins, Swift, Akers, Gibson
WR: Lamb, Diontae, Pittman, Mims, Shenault, Campbell, Shepard
TE: Knox, Jarwin, Trautman
1.04, 1.10, 2.04, 2.08

Team 5 (Rebuild): 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Dak
RB: Sanders, Dobbins, Pollard
WR: Sutton, DJM, Golladay, Pittman, Edwards, Kirk, Campbell, Mims, Hamler
TE: Herndon, Gesicki
2021: 1.02, 1.03, 1.05, 1.06, 2.02

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Re: Tua+ or Burrow+

Postby shiningaxl » Tue Feb 02, 2021 5:26 pm

blemly wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:26 pm
Update:

Deal is done with slight modifications.

Gave: Tua + Chark + 4.10
Got: Burrow + 2.05 + 2.10 + 2.13
I like this for you. Well done!
12 team Dynasty Superflex, 0.5 PPR, TE Premium 1 PPR, 25 player roster+ 10 player Taxi
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, TE, SFlex, Flex, Flex, IDP, IDP, IDP

QB: Patrick Mahomes, Teddy Bridgewater, Mason Rudolph
RB: Tarik Cohen, Jalen Richard, Ito Smith, Bryce Love
WR: D.J. Moore, AJ Brown, Anthony Miller, Travis Fulgham, Jace Guyton, Miles Boykin
TE: Tyler Higbee, Ian Thomas, David Njokou, Gerald Everett, Chris Herndon
IDP: Deion Jones, Landon Collins, Zach Cunningham, Roquan Smith, Nick Bosa, Za’Darius Smith, Mike Hilton, Danielle Hunter

Taxi: QB (Joe Burrow)RB (A.J. Dillon, Lamical Perine, Lynn Bowden, Justice Hill, Ryquell Armstead), WR (Jerry Jeudy, Jalen Reagor, Diontae Johnson, Van Jefferson),

2021 Picks: 1.05, 1.07, 1.10, 2.05, 3.05, 5.05
2022 Picks: 3 1sts, 1 2nd, 1 3rd,

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Re: Tua+ or Burrow+

Postby realmacaroni » Tue Feb 02, 2021 8:23 pm

wow homerun
SF - 12t - PPR
QB: Mahomes - Dak - Brissett - Eason - Rosen
RB: A Jones - A Ekeler - AJ Dillon - J Willimas - J Jackson - J Kelley - B Snell - A McFarland - J Samuels - M Boone
WR: M Thomas - D Johnson - D Parker - J Crowder - V Jefferson - J Reynolds - Z Pascal - D Duvernay - J Hurd
TE: Kelce - Herndon - Alie-Cox
DEF: Rams - Jets - 49ers

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Re: Tua+ or Burrow+

Postby BradysBunch » Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:38 pm

I would have done it without the 2nds coming back. Well done
10 team / 28 man rosters
2015/2017/2019 Champ
SF/PPR
QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/WR/TE/flex/SF
Mahomes/Murray/Winston/Haskins/Trubisky
CMAC/CEH/Mixon/Harris
Hopkins/Thomas/DJM/Woods/Lamb/Chark/B. Edwards/P.Williams/Campbell/AB
Kelce/Hurst

1.1/1.4/1.5/1.9/2.1

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Re: Tua+ or Burrow+

Postby smmcfarl » Wed Feb 03, 2021 6:42 am

Great value getting Burrow and the 2nd rounders, nicely done
Team 1:
10 team PPR League
QB 2RB 2WR TE 3Flex K DEF

2021 Picks: 1.09, 2.02, 3.09
Future Picks: All

QB: Rodgers, Mayfield
RB: Swift, Hunt, Moss, Edmonds, Pollard, Mattison
WR: Metcalf, A.J. Brown, McLaurin, Godwin, JuJu, C. Samuel, Kirk
TE: Fant, Trautman
K: Butker
DEF: 49ers

Team 2:
10 team SF League All 6pt TD's
RB/TE-1.5PPR WR-1PPR
QB 2RB 3WR TE 4Flex SF

2021 Picks: 1.07, 2.04, 3.07, 4.04, 5.07
Future Picks: All

QB: Prescott, Wilson, Bridgewater, Minshew
RB: J. Taylor, R. Jones, McKissic, Hines, Snell, Brieda
WR: J. Jefferson, Godwin, DJM, ARob, Hollywood Brown, Mims, Pittman, Coutee, Lazard, M. Jones, Guyton
TE: Kmet, Schultz, Jarwin, Okwuegbunam


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