My team is a bottom half team without a 2021 1st round pick. Team is very weak at RB, will need to trade a couple more WRs. I am considering this a rebuild.
Would you give up Hopkins for:
James Robinson and a lottery (top 6) pick
Or keep Hopkins.
I know I won’t get 2 1st rounders, I think the above is th best I can do.
What do you all think?
Hopkins on a dead end team
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tresskid84
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Re: Hopkins on a dead end team
Superflex??? Even if it isnt, I think I would do this. I actually have it as pretty fair value.
2021-Orphan Rebuild, 12tm PPR, SF, 1.75 TE Prem
2 SF, 8 Flex
QB: Baker, Tyrod, Rudolph, Heinicke, Wolford, Fromm
RB: Z Moss, J Williams, Kerryon, R Freeman, Adams, Scarbrough, R Smith
WR: Washington, Renfrow, Deonte Harris, T Cleveland, R Ridley, E St Brown, M Lee
TE: Everett, Rudolph, Reed, F Moreau, Firkser, Fumagalli
2021 Picks: 11.05, 1.08, 1.10, 1.11, 2.01, 3.09
2022 Picks: three 1sts, one 2nd, two 3rds, one 4th
16tm PPR, SF, 1.5pr TE, DEVY:
1 QB, 1 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 SF, 3 Flex
Draft is rookies and devy (only 2022 NFL eligible)
QB: Mahomes, Watson, Heinicke
RB: Barkley, CEH, Sanders, Etienne, D Harris, Pollard, B Scott, Ty Johnson, Adams, Scarbrough, Love, K Brooks(D)
WR: McLaurin, Shenault, T Higgins, Claypool, T Wallace, Isabella, Johnson (TB), Johnson (LAC), A Tate
TE: Higbee, Freiermuth, Sternberger, Moreau, Hu Bryant, Warring, Oliver, Kolar(D)
2021 Picks: 1.07, 2.07, 2.12
2 SF, 8 Flex
QB: Baker, Tyrod, Rudolph, Heinicke, Wolford, Fromm
RB: Z Moss, J Williams, Kerryon, R Freeman, Adams, Scarbrough, R Smith
WR: Washington, Renfrow, Deonte Harris, T Cleveland, R Ridley, E St Brown, M Lee
TE: Everett, Rudolph, Reed, F Moreau, Firkser, Fumagalli
2021 Picks: 11.05, 1.08, 1.10, 1.11, 2.01, 3.09
2022 Picks: three 1sts, one 2nd, two 3rds, one 4th
16tm PPR, SF, 1.5pr TE, DEVY:
1 QB, 1 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 SF, 3 Flex
Draft is rookies and devy (only 2022 NFL eligible)
QB: Mahomes, Watson, Heinicke
RB: Barkley, CEH, Sanders, Etienne, D Harris, Pollard, B Scott, Ty Johnson, Adams, Scarbrough, Love, K Brooks(D)
WR: McLaurin, Shenault, T Higgins, Claypool, T Wallace, Isabella, Johnson (TB), Johnson (LAC), A Tate
TE: Higbee, Freiermuth, Sternberger, Moreau, Hu Bryant, Warring, Oliver, Kolar(D)
2021 Picks: 1.07, 2.07, 2.12
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Re: Hopkins on a dead end team
Value is fair especially if you are multiple years out from competing. By then, Hopkins value will be like Julio Jones's is now.
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Re: Hopkins on a dead end team
I don’t see why you can’t get (2) 1st round picks for Nuk after the season he just had? I’d want a different piece instead of J-Rob in a tear down.
Re: Hopkins on a dead end team
If you’re in a rebuild I want a young WR instead of Robinson. No guarantee the new coaching staff sticks with him
12 team DYNASTY w/ 1/2 PPR
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 2FLEX, 1TE, 1DEF, 9BCH, 2IR
2020 - 2nd place
QB: Rothesburger, Mayfield, Tua
RB: Swift, Dobbins, Hunt, D.Harris
WR: Hopkins, Dionte Johnson, A.Robinson , Kirk, Smith-schuster, C.Davis, Pittman
TE: Andrews, Ertz, Herndon
FLEX: Akers (RB), R.Jones (RB)
DEF: Steelers
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 2FLEX, 1TE, 1DEF, 9BCH, 2IR
2020 - 2nd place
QB: Rothesburger, Mayfield, Tua
RB: Swift, Dobbins, Hunt, D.Harris
WR: Hopkins, Dionte Johnson, A.Robinson , Kirk, Smith-schuster, C.Davis, Pittman
TE: Andrews, Ertz, Herndon
FLEX: Akers (RB), R.Jones (RB)
DEF: Steelers
Re: Hopkins on a dead end team
Hopkins is worth more than that, and I'm a huge James Robinson fan. I'm a big believer in not panic selling just because an offer is there.
Float him around to a few owners to gauge interest, but don't publicly put him OTB in your league chat because that will always result in low-ball offers.
We're talking about an elite WR locked in with a stud QB for another 4 years. A competitive team should be willing to pay up a little bit for that type of player.
Float him around to a few owners to gauge interest, but don't publicly put him OTB in your league chat because that will always result in low-ball offers.
We're talking about an elite WR locked in with a stud QB for another 4 years. A competitive team should be willing to pay up a little bit for that type of player.
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Re: Hopkins on a dead end team
I would hold out for a better offer here.
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10 Team, PPR, Roster: 28+2 IR
Start: QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, FLEX (RB/WR), FLEX (RB/WR/TE), K, 2 DL, LB, 2 DB, IDP FLEX
**IDP scoring is tackle heavy (1.0 solo and asst), no points for QBH or TFL, low-medium impact overall. Effectively caps DL scoring. Adding additional IDP FLEX in 2022.**
2017: took over last place orphan, made playoffs
2018: 2nd Place
2019: 2nd Place
2020: Champions
QB: Josh Allen, Russell Wilson
RB: Jonathan Taylor, D’Andre Swift, J.K. Dobbins, Antonio Gibson, Tony Pollard, Alexander Mattison, Tarik Cohen, Gus Edwards, Jamaal Williams
WR: Davante Adams, DK Metcalf, Terry McLaurin, Tee Higgins, Chase Claypool, James Washington, Quintez Cephus
TE: Travis Kelce, Darren Waller, Irv Smith Jr., Cole Kmet
K: (will add after draft and roster cuts)
DL: Danielle Hunter, (will add after draft and roster cuts)
LB: Bobby Wagner, Jaylon Smith, Isaiah Simmons
DB: Budda Baker, Derwin James
Picks Held:
2021: None
2022: None
2023: 1st
10 Team, PPR, Roster: 28+2 IR
Start: QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, FLEX (RB/WR), FLEX (RB/WR/TE), K, 2 DL, LB, 2 DB, IDP FLEX
**IDP scoring is tackle heavy (1.0 solo and asst), no points for QBH or TFL, low-medium impact overall. Effectively caps DL scoring. Adding additional IDP FLEX in 2022.**
2017: took over last place orphan, made playoffs
2018: 2nd Place
2019: 2nd Place
2020: Champions
QB: Josh Allen, Russell Wilson
RB: Jonathan Taylor, D’Andre Swift, J.K. Dobbins, Antonio Gibson, Tony Pollard, Alexander Mattison, Tarik Cohen, Gus Edwards, Jamaal Williams
WR: Davante Adams, DK Metcalf, Terry McLaurin, Tee Higgins, Chase Claypool, James Washington, Quintez Cephus
TE: Travis Kelce, Darren Waller, Irv Smith Jr., Cole Kmet
K: (will add after draft and roster cuts)
DL: Danielle Hunter, (will add after draft and roster cuts)
LB: Bobby Wagner, Jaylon Smith, Isaiah Simmons
DB: Budda Baker, Derwin James
Picks Held:
2021: None
2022: None
2023: 1st
Re: Hopkins on a dead end team
I don't think that is bad value. I would guess you could get more though.
Team 1: 12 team, PPR, 25 Keepers
Requirements: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 K, 1 D/ST
QB: Cousins, Mayfield
RB: Elliott, Barkley, J. Taylor, J. Robinson, K. Johnson, Armstead, M. Brown, B. Hill
WR: Hill, Metcalf, AJ Brown, Smith-Schuster, Sutton, Gallup, Shenault, Jeffrey, Patterson, Sims
TE: Henry, Goedert
Taxi: Snell, Okwuegbunam, Trautman, Dallas, Knox
2021 Picks - 1.06, 1.11, 2.01, 2.11
2022 Picks - All mine
Team 2: 12 Team, SF TE Premium (1.5 PPR), 30 Keepers
Requirements: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 SF (QB/RB/WR/TE)
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Cousins, Rudolph
RB: CMC, Swift, Gibson, A. Mattison, B. Scott, J. Wilson, McFarland, Love, Armstead
WR: McLaurin, Kupp, Golladay, Jeudy, Mims, Hamler, Miller, T. Johnson, Harmon, Stills, Hamilton, D. Robinson, O. Johnson, Conley, Bourne, Wright
TE: Andrews, Sternberger, Boyle
2021 Picks - 1.04, 1.07, 2.09
2022 Picks - All mine
Requirements: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 K, 1 D/ST
QB: Cousins, Mayfield
RB: Elliott, Barkley, J. Taylor, J. Robinson, K. Johnson, Armstead, M. Brown, B. Hill
WR: Hill, Metcalf, AJ Brown, Smith-Schuster, Sutton, Gallup, Shenault, Jeffrey, Patterson, Sims
TE: Henry, Goedert
Taxi: Snell, Okwuegbunam, Trautman, Dallas, Knox
2021 Picks - 1.06, 1.11, 2.01, 2.11
2022 Picks - All mine
Team 2: 12 Team, SF TE Premium (1.5 PPR), 30 Keepers
Requirements: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 SF (QB/RB/WR/TE)
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Cousins, Rudolph
RB: CMC, Swift, Gibson, A. Mattison, B. Scott, J. Wilson, McFarland, Love, Armstead
WR: McLaurin, Kupp, Golladay, Jeudy, Mims, Hamler, Miller, T. Johnson, Harmon, Stills, Hamilton, D. Robinson, O. Johnson, Conley, Bourne, Wright
TE: Andrews, Sternberger, Boyle
2021 Picks - 1.04, 1.07, 2.09
2022 Picks - All mine
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Re: Hopkins on a dead end team
I honestly don't think I could get that offer in my league. I personally would do it.
10 team / 28 man rosters
2015/2017/2019 Champ
SF/PPR
QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/WR/TE/flex/SF
Mahomes/Murray/Winston/Haskins/Trubisky
CMAC/CEH/Mixon/Robinson/Harris
Hopkins/Thomas/DJM/Woods/Lamb/Chark/B. Edwards/P.Williams/Campbell/AB
Kelce/Hurst
1.1/1.4/1.5/1.9
2015/2017/2019 Champ
SF/PPR
QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/WR/TE/flex/SF
Mahomes/Murray/Winston/Haskins/Trubisky
CMAC/CEH/Mixon/Robinson/Harris
Hopkins/Thomas/DJM/Woods/Lamb/Chark/B. Edwards/P.Williams/Campbell/AB
Kelce/Hurst
1.1/1.4/1.5/1.9
Re: Hopkins on a dead end team
I would jump on that I a rebuild.
Team 1 : 1QB 2RB 3 WR 1TE 1Flex 1K 1TM 2 IR 12 Keepers
QB: Carson Wentz, P. Mahomes
RB: A. Jones, MGIII, Dobbins, L. Bell, Ingram, J Williams & Gaskin
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones, K. Allen, J Crowder, Humpries & Agolor
TE: E. Engram, Trey Burton, V Davis & J. Doyle
Team 2: 1QB 1 SF 3RB 5WR 2TE 2FLEX DEF 26 Keepers 2019 Champ
2020 third place
QB: Wentz Watson J. Allen & Lock
RB: Barkley Zeke K. Hunt McCoy Penny D. Williams & Ito
WR: M. Thomas Cooper Godwin Juju J. Washington Renfrow & Zay
TE: Engram OJ Howard Waller & Everett
DEF: Pats Jags & Browns
Team 3: 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF K
QB: Wilson Wentz Tannehill Brees Haskins Foles
RB: CMC Zeke Miles CEH AP J. Jackson B. Scott
WR: Evans Adams Landry Metcalf E. Sanders Lazard
TE: Engram Hurts Ebron Herndon
QB: Carson Wentz, P. Mahomes
RB: A. Jones, MGIII, Dobbins, L. Bell, Ingram, J Williams & Gaskin
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones, K. Allen, J Crowder, Humpries & Agolor
TE: E. Engram, Trey Burton, V Davis & J. Doyle
Team 2: 1QB 1 SF 3RB 5WR 2TE 2FLEX DEF 26 Keepers 2019 Champ
2020 third placeQB: Wentz Watson J. Allen & Lock
RB: Barkley Zeke K. Hunt McCoy Penny D. Williams & Ito
WR: M. Thomas Cooper Godwin Juju J. Washington Renfrow & Zay
TE: Engram OJ Howard Waller & Everett
DEF: Pats Jags & Browns
Team 3: 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF K
QB: Wilson Wentz Tannehill Brees Haskins Foles
RB: CMC Zeke Miles CEH AP J. Jackson B. Scott
WR: Evans Adams Landry Metcalf E. Sanders Lazard
TE: Engram Hurts Ebron Herndon
Re: Hopkins on a dead end team
No chance I sell Nuk for a RB as a rebuilding team. In a multi year rebuild even an elite talent RB will likely fade before you are ready to compete. Not only that but an RB helps you win, which you don't want in a rebuild.
Sell Nuk for a young WR+ or even straight up in a rebuild. If its SF, QB is another option.
The only time you trade for RB in rebuild is if their value is incredibly low or you are going to immediately flip them. JR value is likely at the highest it ever will be. Can you turn around and flip him immediately for a WR or high 1st?
Sell Nuk for a young WR+ or even straight up in a rebuild. If its SF, QB is another option.
The only time you trade for RB in rebuild is if their value is incredibly low or you are going to immediately flip them. JR value is likely at the highest it ever will be. Can you turn around and flip him immediately for a WR or high 1st?
Re: Hopkins on a dead end team
The only time you trade for RB in rebuild is if their value is incredibly low or you are going to immediately flip them. JR value is likely at the highest it ever will be. Can you turn around and flip him immediately for a WR or high 1st?
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I agree with every bit of this. I think the value is close with the 1.06, but I would need assurances that I could move Robinson for as much. If the owners of the 1.04 or 1.05 need an RB, there might be some interest as Harris and Etienne may be gone by then. If you could flip JR for that level or a young WR like Higgins, it might be worth pursuing.
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I agree with every bit of this. I think the value is close with the 1.06, but I would need assurances that I could move Robinson for as much. If the owners of the 1.04 or 1.05 need an RB, there might be some interest as Harris and Etienne may be gone by then. If you could flip JR for that level or a young WR like Higgins, it might be worth pursuing.
Wasteland
12-team, PPR 25 roster 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1(RB/WR/TE), 1 D/ST
QB D. Brees, L. Jackson, J. Burrow
RB D. Henry, M. Sanders, CEH, J. Dobbins, J. Taylor, A. Matt., J. Hill, K. Vaughn, S. Phillips
WR M. Thomas, C. Sutton, C. Ridley, C. Lamb, T. Higgins, JJAW, J. Hurd, J. Reynolds, T. Patrick, I. Ford, Q. Watkins, J. Meyers, C. Johnson
TE T. Kelce, D. Goedert, L. Thomas, A. O
D/ST MIN, TEN, DEN
2021 1.07, 1.10, 1.11, 3.11, 4.11, 5.11
Panthers
12-team SF, .5 PPR 35 roster: 1QB, 1SF, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FLEX, 2DB, 2LB, 2DL, 1FLEX
QB M. Stafford, C. Wentz, D. Brees, J. Burrow
RB J. Mixon, E. Elliott, N. Chubb, D. Swift, G. Bernard, B. Scott, S. Phillips
WR D. Hopkins, T. Lockett, Juju, Jefferson, C. Godwin, J. Gordon, G. Davis, P. Williams, M. Boykin, AGG
TE Z. Ertz, H. Henry, D. Goedert, A. O
DB J. Poyer, J. Johnson, J. Simmons
DL D. Hunter, Okwara, H. Landry, D. Lawrence
LB C. Mosley, Z. Cunningham, R. Evans, K. Alexander, P. Queen, T. Adams
2021 2.03, 3.05, 4.04, 4.08, 5.08
12-team, PPR 25 roster 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1(RB/WR/TE), 1 D/ST
QB D. Brees, L. Jackson, J. Burrow
RB D. Henry, M. Sanders, CEH, J. Dobbins, J. Taylor, A. Matt., J. Hill, K. Vaughn, S. Phillips
WR M. Thomas, C. Sutton, C. Ridley, C. Lamb, T. Higgins, JJAW, J. Hurd, J. Reynolds, T. Patrick, I. Ford, Q. Watkins, J. Meyers, C. Johnson
TE T. Kelce, D. Goedert, L. Thomas, A. O
D/ST MIN, TEN, DEN
2021 1.07, 1.10, 1.11, 3.11, 4.11, 5.11
Panthers
12-team SF, .5 PPR 35 roster: 1QB, 1SF, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FLEX, 2DB, 2LB, 2DL, 1FLEX
QB M. Stafford, C. Wentz, D. Brees, J. Burrow
RB J. Mixon, E. Elliott, N. Chubb, D. Swift, G. Bernard, B. Scott, S. Phillips
WR D. Hopkins, T. Lockett, Juju, Jefferson, C. Godwin, J. Gordon, G. Davis, P. Williams, M. Boykin, AGG
TE Z. Ertz, H. Henry, D. Goedert, A. O
DB J. Poyer, J. Johnson, J. Simmons
DL D. Hunter, Okwara, H. Landry, D. Lawrence
LB C. Mosley, Z. Cunningham, R. Evans, K. Alexander, P. Queen, T. Adams
2021 2.03, 3.05, 4.04, 4.08, 5.08
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