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Been offered Dobbins for Swift straight up. I have these guys ranked very close but since the other owner has engaged with me, I see this as a chance to get something on top.
What do people think of Swift v Dobbins - and what pick is realistic to get on top?
Swift or Dobbins
Swift or Dobbins
Team1
12 Team 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex R/W/T
QB: Dak, Stafford, Tannehill, Levis
RB: Taylor, Mixon, Etienne, Hall, White
WR: Chase, Lamb, Puka, M Williams, JSN, Juju, R Moore
TE: Kelce, Hock, Mcbride
2024 1st, 2ndx2, 3rd, 4th, 5th
Team 2.
12 Team SF TE Prem
1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 4flex R/W/T, 1 SFlex Q/R/W/T
QB: A Rich, R Wilson, Geno, Zappe
RB: Roschon, Millar, Dobbins, Rivers
WR: London, Addison, Tank, M Wilson, Mingo, Tillman, Perry, Heath
TE: Kincaid, McBride, Gray
2024 1stx2, 2ndx2, 3rdx2, 4th, 5th
Team 3
12 Team SF TE Prem
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2flex R/W/T, 1 SFlex Q/R/W/T
QB: Hurts, Lawrence, Jimmy G, Young
RB: Etienne, Walker, CMC, Gainwell, Mattison, Gibson
WR: Higgins, Adams, London, Cooks, Hodgins, Landry, Doubs, Mims
TE: McBride, Okonkwo, Trautman, Bellinger
2024 1st, 2nd x2, 3rd x2, 4th, 5th
12 Team 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex R/W/T
QB: Dak, Stafford, Tannehill, Levis
RB: Taylor, Mixon, Etienne, Hall, White
WR: Chase, Lamb, Puka, M Williams, JSN, Juju, R Moore
TE: Kelce, Hock, Mcbride
2024 1st, 2ndx2, 3rd, 4th, 5th
Team 2.
12 Team SF TE Prem
1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 4flex R/W/T, 1 SFlex Q/R/W/T
QB: A Rich, R Wilson, Geno, Zappe
RB: Roschon, Millar, Dobbins, Rivers
WR: London, Addison, Tank, M Wilson, Mingo, Tillman, Perry, Heath
TE: Kincaid, McBride, Gray
2024 1stx2, 2ndx2, 3rdx2, 4th, 5th
Team 3
12 Team SF TE Prem
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2flex R/W/T, 1 SFlex Q/R/W/T
QB: Hurts, Lawrence, Jimmy G, Young
RB: Etienne, Walker, CMC, Gainwell, Mattison, Gibson
WR: Higgins, Adams, London, Cooks, Hodgins, Landry, Doubs, Mims
TE: McBride, Okonkwo, Trautman, Bellinger
2024 1st, 2nd x2, 3rd x2, 4th, 5th
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Re: Swift or Dobbins
Both are great assets moving forward. Swift as a better shot at more receptions, but I like Dobbins more as a pure runner. Both were rookie draft 1st round picks. Coin flip based on who you like more. I would be shocked if you could get anymore than a 3rd on top as these two are essentially the same upside asset heading into their second year. Dobbins seems to be in a better running system, but the Lions could be changing their philosophy with an entire new staff and focus this upcoming season.
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Re: Swift or Dobbins
I liked Swift better prior to last season, and nothing has changed that for me. So I don't know that I would be interested in this, as I doubt the Dobbins owner is going to add much of anything to him.
But if you have them ranked right next to each other, than get what you can added on. I'd shoot for a second or an equivalent player to a 2nd to start with.
But if you have them ranked right next to each other, than get what you can added on. I'd shoot for a second or an equivalent player to a 2nd to start with.
Team One:
10 Team Salary Cap League w/ IDP - Est. 2018
2018: Champions!
2019: Champions!!
2020: 2nd Place
2021: Loss in Semis
2022: Champions!!!
.5 PPR/$200 budget
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB, 3 DL/LB/DB
QB - Mahomes
RB - CMC, White, Sanders, Herbert, Foreman, McKinnon
WR - Diggs, Ridley, Godwin, KJ Osborn, Woods, Claypool, Campbell
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki
K - Bass
DL - Reddick, Jones, M. Sweat
LB - R. Smith, Wagner, Leonard, White, Perryman, Cashman
DB - Byard, Bell, Hobbs, Jenkins
2024: 3rd
Team Two:
DLF Advice Forum League
14 Team PPR SF/TE Premium (2PPR)
2020: 4th Place
2021: 2nd Place
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1SF, 2Flex
QB - Allen, Carr, Mayfield, Trask, Zappe
RB - Harris, Gibson, Herbert, K. Miller, C. Brown
WR - MT, G. Davis, Bourne, Skyy Moore, Reynolds, Shakir, A.T. Perry, C. Moore, Hinton
TE - Kittle, Andrews, Woods
2024: 1, 2, 3, 4
10 Team Salary Cap League w/ IDP - Est. 2018
2018: Champions!
2019: Champions!!
2020: 2nd Place
2021: Loss in Semis
2022: Champions!!!
.5 PPR/$200 budget
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB, 3 DL/LB/DB
QB - Mahomes
RB - CMC, White, Sanders, Herbert, Foreman, McKinnon
WR - Diggs, Ridley, Godwin, KJ Osborn, Woods, Claypool, Campbell
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki
K - Bass
DL - Reddick, Jones, M. Sweat
LB - R. Smith, Wagner, Leonard, White, Perryman, Cashman
DB - Byard, Bell, Hobbs, Jenkins
2024: 3rd
Team Two:
DLF Advice Forum League
14 Team PPR SF/TE Premium (2PPR)
2020: 4th Place
2021: 2nd Place
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1SF, 2Flex
QB - Allen, Carr, Mayfield, Trask, Zappe
RB - Harris, Gibson, Herbert, K. Miller, C. Brown
WR - MT, G. Davis, Bourne, Skyy Moore, Reynolds, Shakir, A.T. Perry, C. Moore, Hinton
TE - Kittle, Andrews, Woods
2024: 1, 2, 3, 4
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Re: Swift or Dobbins
I couldn't have said it better myself. I wouldn't let Swift go for Dobbins straight up, but if the other owner wants him bad enough, he'll pay up for him.FantasyFoosball wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:34 pm I liked Swift better prior to last season, and nothing has changed that for me. So I don't know that I would be interested in this, as I doubt the Dobbins owner is going to add much of anything to him.
But if you have them ranked right next to each other, than get what you can added on. I'd shoot for a second or an equivalent player to a 2nd to start with.
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2020, 2021, 2022
2018, 2019
10 Team SF, PPR, Roster: 33+2 IR+2 Taxi
Start: QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, SF, FLX (RB/WR), K, 2 DL, LB, 2 DB, 2 IDP FLX
**IDP scoring is TKL heavy (1.0 solo and asst), no QBH or TFL.**
QB: Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts
RB: Jahmyr Gibbs, D’Andre Swift, Jerome Ford, Khalil Herbert, Jaleel McLaughlin, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Isaiah Spiller, Chase Brown, Evan Hull (IR), Sean Tucker
WR: Amon-Ra St. Brown, DeVonta Smith, Tee Higgins, Jordan Addison, Jaxon Smith-Njigba, Josh Palmer, Demario Douglas, Alec Pierce, Michael Wilson, Jalin Hyatt, Kayshon Boutte (Taxi)
TE: Sam LaPorta, Trey McBride
K: Jake Elliott
DL: Danielle Hunter, Aiden Hutchinson, Jaelan Phillips (IR)
LB: Bobby Wagner, Jordyn Brooks, Logan Wilson, Ernest Jones
DB: Derwin James, Brian Branch
2020, 2021, 2022
2018, 2019
10 Team SF, PPR, Roster: 33+2 IR+2 Taxi
Start: QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, SF, FLX (RB/WR), K, 2 DL, LB, 2 DB, 2 IDP FLX
**IDP scoring is TKL heavy (1.0 solo and asst), no QBH or TFL.**
QB: Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts
RB: Jahmyr Gibbs, D’Andre Swift, Jerome Ford, Khalil Herbert, Jaleel McLaughlin, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Isaiah Spiller, Chase Brown, Evan Hull (IR), Sean Tucker
WR: Amon-Ra St. Brown, DeVonta Smith, Tee Higgins, Jordan Addison, Jaxon Smith-Njigba, Josh Palmer, Demario Douglas, Alec Pierce, Michael Wilson, Jalin Hyatt, Kayshon Boutte (Taxi)
TE: Sam LaPorta, Trey McBride
K: Jake Elliott
DL: Danielle Hunter, Aiden Hutchinson, Jaelan Phillips (IR)
LB: Bobby Wagner, Jordyn Brooks, Logan Wilson, Ernest Jones
DB: Derwin James, Brian Branch
Re: Swift or Dobbins
If you added a second to either side I would be persuaded. Like both long term. Slightly prefer Swift right now.
Team 1: 12 team, PPR
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex
Mahomes, Lawrence
Najee, Swift, Javonte, Jamaal W, Murray
DK, DJM, Juju, Jameson, Gallup, Van
Pitts, Friermuth
1.01, 1.04, 1.11, 1.12, 3.10, 2 firsts next year
Team 2: 12 Team, SF TEP (1.5 PPR)
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex, 1 SF
Mahomes, Burrow, Cousins, Rudolph
CEH, Swift, Gibson, Jacobs, Mattison, Scott, McFarland
DK, AJB, Ridley, McLaurin, Kupp, Landry, Mims, Hamler, Miller, Johnson, Robinson
Andrews, H. Henry, Sternberger, Alie-Cox, Herndon
Same as Team 2
Watson, Burrow, Lance, Z. Wilson
Pollard, Mattison
Chase, D. Smith, Boyd, Hardman, E. Moore, Cephus, A. Rodgers, Harry, Boykin, A. Tate, Miller
Hockenson, Thomas, Albert O, Njoku
3 additional firsts
Same as Team 2
TLaw, Burrow, Watson, Darnold
CEH, Gus, Cohen
Juju, Chark, Shenault, Boyd, Landry, Renfrow, Robinson,
Engram, Kmet, Firkser, Schultz, Arnold, Herndon
5 additional firsts
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex
Mahomes, Lawrence
Najee, Swift, Javonte, Jamaal W, Murray
DK, DJM, Juju, Jameson, Gallup, Van
Pitts, Friermuth
1.01, 1.04, 1.11, 1.12, 3.10, 2 firsts next year
Team 2: 12 Team, SF TEP (1.5 PPR)
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex, 1 SF
Mahomes, Burrow, Cousins, Rudolph
CEH, Swift, Gibson, Jacobs, Mattison, Scott, McFarland
DK, AJB, Ridley, McLaurin, Kupp, Landry, Mims, Hamler, Miller, Johnson, Robinson
Andrews, H. Henry, Sternberger, Alie-Cox, Herndon
Same as Team 2
Watson, Burrow, Lance, Z. Wilson
Pollard, Mattison
Chase, D. Smith, Boyd, Hardman, E. Moore, Cephus, A. Rodgers, Harry, Boykin, A. Tate, Miller
Hockenson, Thomas, Albert O, Njoku
3 additional firsts
Same as Team 2
TLaw, Burrow, Watson, Darnold
CEH, Gus, Cohen
Juju, Chark, Shenault, Boyd, Landry, Renfrow, Robinson,
Engram, Kmet, Firkser, Schultz, Arnold, Herndon
5 additional firsts
Re: Swift or Dobbins
Agreed with the others. I have Swift maybe 1 slot ahead in rankings, basically a coin flip, and would swap either for a 2. I believe the market does seem to be slightly higher on Swift than dobbins if that means anything/matters to you.
Re: Swift or Dobbins
Getting a 2nd may be a push but I have the 2.07 and he has the 2.01 so could include those and move up the draft slots next season
Team1
12 Team 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex R/W/T
QB: Dak, Stafford, Tannehill, Levis
RB: Taylor, Mixon, Etienne, Hall, White
WR: Chase, Lamb, Puka, M Williams, JSN, Juju, R Moore
TE: Kelce, Hock, Mcbride
2024 1st, 2ndx2, 3rd, 4th, 5th
Team 2.
12 Team SF TE Prem
1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 4flex R/W/T, 1 SFlex Q/R/W/T
QB: A Rich, R Wilson, Geno, Zappe
RB: Roschon, Millar, Dobbins, Rivers
WR: London, Addison, Tank, M Wilson, Mingo, Tillman, Perry, Heath
TE: Kincaid, McBride, Gray
2024 1stx2, 2ndx2, 3rdx2, 4th, 5th
Team 3
12 Team SF TE Prem
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2flex R/W/T, 1 SFlex Q/R/W/T
QB: Hurts, Lawrence, Jimmy G, Young
RB: Etienne, Walker, CMC, Gainwell, Mattison, Gibson
WR: Higgins, Adams, London, Cooks, Hodgins, Landry, Doubs, Mims
TE: McBride, Okonkwo, Trautman, Bellinger
2024 1st, 2nd x2, 3rd x2, 4th, 5th
12 Team 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex R/W/T
QB: Dak, Stafford, Tannehill, Levis
RB: Taylor, Mixon, Etienne, Hall, White
WR: Chase, Lamb, Puka, M Williams, JSN, Juju, R Moore
TE: Kelce, Hock, Mcbride
2024 1st, 2ndx2, 3rd, 4th, 5th
Team 2.
12 Team SF TE Prem
1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 4flex R/W/T, 1 SFlex Q/R/W/T
QB: A Rich, R Wilson, Geno, Zappe
RB: Roschon, Millar, Dobbins, Rivers
WR: London, Addison, Tank, M Wilson, Mingo, Tillman, Perry, Heath
TE: Kincaid, McBride, Gray
2024 1stx2, 2ndx2, 3rdx2, 4th, 5th
Team 3
12 Team SF TE Prem
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2flex R/W/T, 1 SFlex Q/R/W/T
QB: Hurts, Lawrence, Jimmy G, Young
RB: Etienne, Walker, CMC, Gainwell, Mattison, Gibson
WR: Higgins, Adams, London, Cooks, Hodgins, Landry, Doubs, Mims
TE: McBride, Okonkwo, Trautman, Bellinger
2024 1st, 2nd x2, 3rd x2, 4th, 5th
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Re: Swift or Dobbins
I own both and I weigh them pretty evenly moving forward. A lot will depend on who else the Lions and Ravens bring back and potentially sign in the off-season. Kerryon Johnson has 1 year left and AP is a FA. Ingram is done and Gus Edwards is a FA. Given their expanded roles at the end of the season, I imagine both will be the lead back next year. The Ravens offense is probably more reliable at this point, but things can change quickly in this league and given Swift's receiving ability, his floor should be solid. For you, I wouldn't feel disrespected if you asked for a 2nd on top. I think that's a reasonable spot to begin negotiating.
Re: Swift or Dobbins
In SF, the 13th pick might be a bit more valuable than 19. I have these RB very close... Had Swift ahead pre-draft. Dropped him behind Dobbins mostly on landing spot, but that doesn't seem like as big of a deal now... They are very close and I slightly prefer Dobbins now. Those pick swaps would do it for me
Re: Swift or Dobbins
I like Dobbins over Swift. The Ravens are a far better organization and better defense for many years running.
Maybe they'll both be good, but I'll bet on Dobbins.
See if you can get a late second added since he's offering you.
Maybe they'll both be good, but I'll bet on Dobbins.
See if you can get a late second added since he's offering you.
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