M.Thomas or Diggs

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M.Thomas or Diggs

Postby AresGodOWar » Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:40 am

Team 1 I have to move MT

Who is worth more and by how much in 1ppr leagues ?
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TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

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QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
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WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

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Re: M.Thomas or Diggs

Postby Mtt33 » Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:45 am

Market wise diggs is worth more for sure off that amazing season and recency bias. I’d have them pretty close personally, probably have Thomas very slightly ahead.

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Re: M.Thomas or Diggs

Postby AresGodOWar » Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:54 am

Mtt33 wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:45 am Market wise diggs is worth more for sure off that amazing season and recency bias. I’d have them pretty close personally, probably have Thomas very slightly ahead.
I feel like MT is at least a top 3 WR still , his injury wasn't a career changing type injury , I don't know why people are so low on him , only 27 still , first 4 year avg of around 115-1400. Is it because they are counting on Brees leaving ?

If Brees stays or Winston takes over does his value get back to top 3 again ?

I think with either of them he has his 120-1400 type year again.
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WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

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WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
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RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

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QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
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Re: M.Thomas or Diggs

Postby MyTeam » Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:55 am

I would still put MT ahead but I could be in the minority, I am not sure that I would be though. They are the same age but MT has way more career success. This year was kinda a fluke for MT IMO. He missed a lot of time.
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Re: M.Thomas or Diggs

Postby Gator Sens » Fri Jan 08, 2021 6:33 am

Thomas. He is a PPR monster. Diggs had a better year, but Thomas was hurt pretty much all season. Give me Thomas here pretty easily. Go back through his last few years, he is a beast and will be back.

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Re: M.Thomas or Diggs

Postby Mtt33 » Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:15 am

AresGodOWar wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:54 am
Mtt33 wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:45 am Market wise diggs is worth more for sure off that amazing season and recency bias. I’d have them pretty close personally, probably have Thomas very slightly ahead.
I feel like MT is at least a top 3 WR still , his injury wasn't a career changing type injury , I don't know why people are so low on him , only 27 still , first 4 year avg of around 115-1400. Is it because they are counting on Brees leaving ?

If Brees stays or Winston takes over does his value get back to top 3 again ?

I think with either of them he has his 120-1400 type year again.
Ya recency bias combined with qb uncertainty in NO I guess. McDowell posted first 2 rounds of January ADP (I think it’s just based off “expert” mocks?) and diggs was 15 and MT not in the top 25, very odd.
I think waiting until closer to the season is likely when you want to sell Thomas when people sell down on the overreactions.

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Re: M.Thomas or Diggs

Postby FantasyFoosball » Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:18 am

I'm curious, why do you "have" to move him? He's a solid hold right now coming off an injury plagued season. I can't imagine his value has ever been lower.
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Re: M.Thomas or Diggs

Postby Needalife » Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:32 am

Diggs is worth more, maybe by a 2nd or two 2nds. Diggs is paired with a young, ascending QB and we've seen the results it has yielded. I love MT but he's going to have an uncertain QB situation, he's a volume-based WR and I get the vibe that he's maybe a bit of a headcase.

Easily Diggs here for me and probably the majority of offseason dynasty rankings. I still like Thomas but he doesn't feel as bulletproof as he did just a few years ago.
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Re: M.Thomas or Diggs

Postby AresGodOWar » Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:41 am

FantasyFoosball wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:18 am I'm curious, why do you "have" to move him? He's a solid hold right now coming off an injury plagued season. I can't imagine his value has ever been lower.
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TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

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QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

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QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
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Re: M.Thomas or Diggs

Postby Oddball456 » Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:36 am

Needalife wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:32 am Diggs is worth more, maybe by a 2nd or two 2nds. Diggs is paired with a young, ascending QB and we've seen the results it has yielded. I love MT but he's going to have an uncertain QB situation, he's a volume-based WR and I get the vibe that he's maybe a bit of a headcase.

Easily Diggs here for me and probably the majority of offseason dynasty rankings. I still like Thomas but he doesn't feel as bulletproof as he did just a few years ago.
Agree with this. Diggs will be in the same great situation for likely the next 3+ years, had no injury or diva issues this year, seems locked in as a top 5ish WR barring injury.

MT has so many question marks but the diva stuff really scares me away. And the possible change in QB. Almost all of the risk is on the MT side.

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Re: M.Thomas or Diggs

Postby krtbuckeye » Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:54 am

I give a slight edge to Diggs just on situation going forward, but not by much, as I believe MT will rebound and still be great as well. Diggs for me though.
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Re: M.Thomas or Diggs

Postby killer_of_giants » Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:05 am

thomas is a diva and diggs isn't, uh?


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Re: M.Thomas or Diggs

Postby pmart33 » Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:59 am

Both are elite producers and will be 28 by the end of next season. I’d take Diggs, as he’s tied to a better QB long term.
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