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Postby Straycatz2 » Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:42 am

12T SF
Would you give up 1.03 + Reagor or Pittman for Jefferson?

Chase will most likely be there and was better than Jefferson in college but actual nfl production still trumps imaginary production.

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Re: Jefferson

Postby hoos89 » Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:51 am

Hm...I'd easily do this in 1QB but I don't play SF so can't say for sure. I guess my issue with doing that deal now is: what if Chase, Najee or Etienne ends up in an A+ situation? Then SF 1.03 would become significantly more valuable (either Fields falls to you or you get that guy in the crazy good situation).
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2020 Runner-up
Rodgers, Tannehill, Wentz
Taylor, Jacobs, Ekeler, D. Harris, Gaskin, Conner, Michel, McKinnon, Ahmed, Love
AJB, DJM, Aiyuk, Claypool, Sutton, Slayton, MVS, Agholor, J. Gordon
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Tannehill, Tua, Bridgewater, Mariota, Eason
Barkley, CEH, Ito, J. Jackson, Bowden, Homer, Love, Guice
J. Jefferson, McLaurin, T. Higgins, Jeudy, Cooks, Berrios, Byrd, Foster, Hansen, Harmon, C. Johnson, T. Johnson
Hooper, Eifert, Herndon
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Re: Jefferson

Postby joeday » Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:55 am

Are you assuming Lawrence and Fields go 1 and 2? If so, keep JJ
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Re: Jefferson

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:57 am

joeday wrote: ↑
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:55 am
Are you assuming Lawrence and Fields go 1 and 2? If so, keep JJ
x2 - If Lawrence is gone (which I assume is a guarantee) I would grab Jefferson.

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Re: Jefferson

Postby MyTeam » Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:36 am

Chase made Jefferson the WR #2 in college. Not taking anything away from Jefferson but if Chase lands in a halfway decent landing spot, I will be the conductor of his hype train. I'd keep the pick but definitely know that I will be in the minority doing so.
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Requirements: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 K, 1 D/ST

QB: Cousins, Mayfield
RB: Elliott, Barkley, J. Taylor, J. Robinson, K. Johnson, Armstead, M. Brown, B. Hill
WR: Hill, Metcalf, AJ Brown, Smith-Schuster, Sutton, Gallup, Shenault, Jeffrey, Patterson, Sims
TE: Henry, Goedert

Taxi: Snell, Okwuegbunam, Trautman, Dallas, Knox

2021 Picks - 1.06, 1.11, 2.01, 2.11
2022 Picks - All mine

Team 2: 12 Team, SF TE Premium (1.5 PPR), 30 Keepers
Requirements: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 SF (QB/RB/WR/TE)

QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Cousins, Rudolph
RB: CMC, Swift, Gibson, A. Mattison, B. Scott, J. Wilson, McFarland, Love, Armstead
WR: McLaurin, Kupp, Golladay, Jeudy, Mims, Hamler, Miller, T. Johnson, Harmon, Stills, Hamilton, D. Robinson, O. Johnson, Conley, Bourne, Wright
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Re: Jefferson

Postby StripesOfKC » Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:37 am

Jefferson over Reagor/1.3 for sure

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QB: Burrow, Tannehill, Stafford
RB: Jonathan Taylor, JK Dobbins, CEH, D'Andre Swift, Damien Harris, Pollard, Cohen, Darrynton Evans
WR: AJ Brown, McLaurin, Justin Jefferson, Julio, DJ Moore, Courtland Sutton, Jerry Jeudy, DJ Chark, Gallup, Mims, Pittman, Mooney, Bryan Edwards
TE: Kittle, Hockenson, Gesicki, Trautman
D: Steelers
K: Lutz

2021: 1.6
2022: 3 1sts, 1 2nd, 2 3rd, 2 4ths
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QB: Rodgers, Brady, Tua
RB: Mixon, CEH, Michel, James White
WR: Lockett, Gallup, Justin Jefferson, Reagor, Mims
TE: Gesicki, Goedert

DL: Chris Jones, Grady Jarrett, Jeffrey Simmons
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Re: Jefferson

Postby hoos89 » Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:09 pm

MyTeam wrote: ↑
Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:36 am
Chase made Jefferson the WR #2 in college. Not taking anything away from Jefferson but if Chase lands in a halfway decent landing spot, I will be the conductor of his hype train. I'd keep the pick but definitely know that I will be in the minority doing so.
Careful with this. Aiyuk was WR2 to Harry in college.

Also there really wasn't that big of a gap in Chase and Jefferson's production in 2019: 84/1780/20 vs 111/1540/18. I know Jefferson was more in the slot but I've heard that this had something to do with Jefferson being more effective than Chase in the slot. Jefferson has already made the transition to the NFL in an historic way, and Chase hasn't played organized football in a year. Yes, Chase is my WR1 in this class still, but I'm not going to put him particularly close to the Jefferson tier anytime soon.
Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2020 Runner-up
Rodgers, Tannehill, Wentz
Taylor, Jacobs, Ekeler, D. Harris, Gaskin, Conner, Michel, McKinnon, Ahmed, Love
AJB, DJM, Aiyuk, Claypool, Sutton, Slayton, MVS, Agholor, J. Gordon
Andrews, Herndon
IR(3):
Taxi(4): Tua, G. Davis, Bowden
2021 Picks: 1.02, 1.05, 1.11, 3.02, 3.11, 4.11, 5.11

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
Tannehill, Tua, Bridgewater, Mariota, Eason
Barkley, CEH, Ito, J. Jackson, Bowden, Homer, Love, Guice
J. Jefferson, McLaurin, T. Higgins, Jeudy, Cooks, Berrios, Byrd, Foster, Hansen, Harmon, C. Johnson, T. Johnson
Hooper, Eifert, Herndon
2021 Picks: 1.04, 1.07, 1.08, 1.11, 2.03, 2.04, 2.07, 2.08, 2.09, 3.11, 4.04

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Re: Jefferson

Postby MyTeam » Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:55 pm

hoos89 wrote: ↑
Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:09 pm
MyTeam wrote: ↑
Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:36 am
Chase made Jefferson the WR #2 in college. Not taking anything away from Jefferson but if Chase lands in a halfway decent landing spot, I will be the conductor of his hype train. I'd keep the pick but definitely know that I will be in the minority doing so.
Careful with this. Aiyuk was WR2 to Harry in college.

Also there really wasn't that big of a gap in Chase and Jefferson's production in 2019: 84/1780/20 vs 111/1540/18. I know Jefferson was more in the slot but I've heard that this had something to do with Jefferson being more effective than Chase in the slot. Jefferson has already made the transition to the NFL in an historic way, and Chase hasn't played organized football in a year. Yes, Chase is my WR1 in this class still, but I'm not going to put him particularly close to the Jefferson tier anytime soon.
I 100% agree that they should not be close. I just watched too many LSU games that year and saw how good Chase made Burrow look on some spotty throws. I know that Chase isn't close to Jefferson right now but I can't wait to get Chase in every spot possible.

For the Harry Aiyuk comparison, Chase did it while being a year below Jefferson. Harry was there an extra year although they were both Juniors. Good comp of what could happen but there are also a lot more situations where the top guy ends up being better in the NFL.

In the 2019 comparison, Jefferson played an extra game and it was close. I am not trying to take anything away from Jefferson who I am extremely high on and have been (I actually had him as my WR 3 this year behind Jeudy and Lamb and people told me to take Reagor or Ruggs or Akers but I took Jefferson), Chase put up those numbers as the alpha on a team that player a lot of very talented defenses.

Again, I know I am in the wrong for not wanting that trade but I wouldn't be able to make it.

Also I appreciate the conversation here, I have seen a lot of weirdly negative stuff on this page attacking back and forth posts calling people dumb.
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Requirements: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 K, 1 D/ST

QB: Cousins, Mayfield
RB: Elliott, Barkley, J. Taylor, J. Robinson, K. Johnson, Armstead, M. Brown, B. Hill
WR: Hill, Metcalf, AJ Brown, Smith-Schuster, Sutton, Gallup, Shenault, Jeffrey, Patterson, Sims
TE: Henry, Goedert

Taxi: Snell, Okwuegbunam, Trautman, Dallas, Knox

2021 Picks - 1.06, 1.11, 2.01, 2.11
2022 Picks - All mine

Team 2: 12 Team, SF TE Premium (1.5 PPR), 30 Keepers
Requirements: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 SF (QB/RB/WR/TE)

QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Cousins, Rudolph
RB: CMC, Swift, Gibson, A. Mattison, B. Scott, J. Wilson, McFarland, Love, Armstead
WR: McLaurin, Kupp, Golladay, Jeudy, Mims, Hamler, Miller, T. Johnson, Harmon, Stills, Hamilton, D. Robinson, O. Johnson, Conley, Bourne, Wright
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Re: Jefferson

Postby joeday » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:42 pm

MyTeam wrote: ↑
Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:36 am
Chase made Jefferson the WR #2 in college. Not taking anything away from Jefferson but if Chase lands in a halfway decent landing spot, I will be the conductor of his hype train. I'd keep the pick but definitely know that I will be in the minority doing so.
Duck and cover! You are gonna get killed by JJ fanatics! lol
BERLIN BOMBERS
1996 | 2005 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014 | 2017 – πŸ†
1999 | 2000 | 2019 | 2020 – πŸ₯ˆ

14 teams | 4 keepers | non ppr | est. 1996
Projected 2021 Keepers
QB – Kyler Murray
RB – Christian McCaffrey
WR – Calvin Ridley
TE – Darren Waller


ROCKY MOUNTAIN MASTODONS
2011 | 2013 | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2020 – πŸ†
2008 | 2012 | 2014 | 2019 – πŸ₯ˆ
12 teams | 10 keepers | non ppr | est. 2001
2020 Championship Lineup
QB – Deshaun Watson
RB – Derrick Henry | Dalvin Cook | J.K. Dobbins | Alexander Mattison
WR – DeAndre Hopkins | Davante Adams | Calvin Ridley | Diontae Johnson
TE – Darren Waller
2021 Picks – 1.7 | 3.10 | 4.1 | 5.10 | 6.1 | 7.12 | 8.1 | 9.4 | 9.12 | 10.1

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Re: Jefferson

Postby MyTeam » Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:40 pm

joeday wrote: ↑
Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:42 pm
MyTeam wrote: ↑
Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:36 am
Chase made Jefferson the WR #2 in college. Not taking anything away from Jefferson but if Chase lands in a halfway decent landing spot, I will be the conductor of his hype train. I'd keep the pick but definitely know that I will be in the minority doing so.
Duck and cover! You are gonna get killed by JJ fanatics! lol
:lol: :lol: Seems like JJ has a cult following right now.
Team 1: 12 team, PPR, 25 Keepers
Requirements: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 K, 1 D/ST

QB: Cousins, Mayfield
RB: Elliott, Barkley, J. Taylor, J. Robinson, K. Johnson, Armstead, M. Brown, B. Hill
WR: Hill, Metcalf, AJ Brown, Smith-Schuster, Sutton, Gallup, Shenault, Jeffrey, Patterson, Sims
TE: Henry, Goedert

Taxi: Snell, Okwuegbunam, Trautman, Dallas, Knox

2021 Picks - 1.06, 1.11, 2.01, 2.11
2022 Picks - All mine

Team 2: 12 Team, SF TE Premium (1.5 PPR), 30 Keepers
Requirements: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 SF (QB/RB/WR/TE)

QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Cousins, Rudolph
RB: CMC, Swift, Gibson, A. Mattison, B. Scott, J. Wilson, McFarland, Love, Armstead
WR: McLaurin, Kupp, Golladay, Jeudy, Mims, Hamler, Miller, T. Johnson, Harmon, Stills, Hamilton, D. Robinson, O. Johnson, Conley, Bourne, Wright
TE: Andrews, Sternberger, Boyle

2021 Picks - 1.04, 1.07, 2.09
2022 Picks - All mine

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Re: Jefferson

Postby joeday » Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:02 pm

MyTeam wrote: ↑
Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:40 pm
joeday wrote: ↑
Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:42 pm
MyTeam wrote: ↑
Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:36 am
Chase made Jefferson the WR #2 in college. Not taking anything away from Jefferson but if Chase lands in a halfway decent landing spot, I will be the conductor of his hype train. I'd keep the pick but definitely know that I will be in the minority doing so.
Duck and cover! You are gonna get killed by JJ fanatics! lol
:lol: :lol: Seems like JJ has a cult following right now.
I love him but I jokingly said that the cult following he is getting is making me dislike a player I actually like haha
BERLIN BOMBERS
1996 | 2005 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014 | 2017 – πŸ†
1999 | 2000 | 2019 | 2020 – πŸ₯ˆ

14 teams | 4 keepers | non ppr | est. 1996
Projected 2021 Keepers
QB – Kyler Murray
RB – Christian McCaffrey
WR – Calvin Ridley
TE – Darren Waller


ROCKY MOUNTAIN MASTODONS
2011 | 2013 | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2020 – πŸ†
2008 | 2012 | 2014 | 2019 – πŸ₯ˆ
12 teams | 10 keepers | non ppr | est. 2001
2020 Championship Lineup
QB – Deshaun Watson
RB – Derrick Henry | Dalvin Cook | J.K. Dobbins | Alexander Mattison
WR – DeAndre Hopkins | Davante Adams | Calvin Ridley | Diontae Johnson
TE – Darren Waller
2021 Picks – 1.7 | 3.10 | 4.1 | 5.10 | 6.1 | 7.12 | 8.1 | 9.4 | 9.12 | 10.1

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