Derrick Henry SF Value

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Derrick Henry SF Value

Postby pmart33 » Sun Jan 03, 2021 3:02 pm

Just trying to get a sense of how folks are valuing Henry in terms of picks in a 12 team SF league.
Team 1
12 Team .5 PPR (Year 5)
Starters 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE

QB Dak Wilson Stafford
RB Chubb Mixon Hunt Bell Pollard Gio
WR Metcalf Brown Diggs Cooper Golladay Jeudy Mims Tyler Johnson
TE Kelce Irv Smith

Team 2
12 Team PPR (Year 3)
Starters 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE

QB Wentz Jones Ben Hill
RB CMC CEH Taylor Swift Justice Hill
WR Adams Juju Evans Moore Higgins Crowder Reagor
TE Goedert Ertz

Team 3
12 Team PPR SF (Year 2)
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE

QB Watson Burrow Mariota Fitz
RB Hines Lindsay Wilson
WR Moore Juju Aiyuk Gallup C. Davis Mims Campbell
TE Fant Irv Njoku

Team 4
12 Team PPR SF TE Prem (Startup in progress)
Starters 1QB 1SF 1RB 1WR 1TE 7Flex-WR/RB/TE

QB Mahomes Allen Cousins
RB Najee Harris Sanders Rojo Drake Hubbard
WR Woods Fuller Parker Pittman Slayton
TE Hockenson Hooper Gronk

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Re: Derrick Henry SF Value

Postby Gator Sens » Sun Jan 03, 2021 3:07 pm

Early 1st+ even in SF with Lawrence on the clock.

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Re: Derrick Henry SF Value

Postby McCafsteez » Sun Jan 03, 2021 3:26 pm

I would only give him up for the 1.01 if I was Qb needy. Otherwise it would take a haul
v1 - 12 Team PPR (QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, 2 Flex) 2020 CHAMP! :dance:
QB: Watson, Herbert
RB: Cook, Chubb, Gaskin, Mattison, Hines
WR: Evans, Cooper, DJ Moore, Robinson, Boyd, M. Williams
TE: Waller, Engram
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v2 - 12 Team .5 PPR / 1.5 PPR TE Premium / SF / (QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, 3 Flex, SF) 2020 CHAMP! :dance:
QB: Jackson, Rivers, Brady
RB: Henry, Sanders, Fournette, Gaskin, Peterson
WR: Hopkins, Diggs, Allen, OBJ, MVS
TE: Kelce, Schultz, Ebron
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v3 - 12 Team 0.5 PPR (QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, TE, 3 Flex) 2020 CHAMP! :dance:
QB: Cousins, Bridgewater, Lock
RB: CMC, Kamara, Sanders, Mostert
WR: Hopkins, Golladay, D. Johnson, Sutton, Chark Jr.
TE: Gesicki
2021 Picks: 1.12 / 2.10
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v4 - 12 Team PPR / 1.5 PPR TE PREM / SF /(QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, 2 Flex, SF) 2020 RUNNER UP! :wall:
QB: Rodgers, Herbert, Ryan, Haskins Jr.
RB: CMC, Cook, Davis, Peterson, Mattison
WR: JuJu, Metcalf, Edelman, G. Tate, Mooney
TE: Andrews, Tonyan, Ebron, Hooper, Thomas

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Re: Derrick Henry SF Value

Postby Indyfan1985 » Sun Jan 03, 2021 3:44 pm

I may be in the minority but I'm not as high on Henry longterm. He has so many miles on the tires as of these past few years. This year alone he will have right about 375 carries or so.

Plus he doesn't get receptions and that's huge for me when evaluating dynasty RBs. I'd personally rather have Lawrence longterm over Henry in a SF league.
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2018 Champ, 2019 Champ

QB - Patrick Mahomes, Justin Herbert
WR - Michael Thomas, Calvin Ridley
RB - Saquon Barkley, Nick Chubb
TE - George Kittle
Flex - Jonathan Taylor, Mike Evans

Notable Bench Players - Joe Mixon, AJ Dillon, Zach Moss, Justin Jefferson, OBJ, Cooper Kupp, Ceedee Lamb, Diontae Johnson, Jalen Reagor, Carson Wentz, Austin Hooper

2021 Draft picks - 1, 1, 2, 2
2022 Draft picks - 1, 2, 2, 3

2 QB, 2 TE PPR 8 Team League

QB - Deshaun Watson, Baker Mayfield
WR - AJ Brown, Calvin Ridley
RB - CMC, Jonathan Taylor
TE - Dallas Goedert, TJ Hockenson
Flex - DJ Moore, Joe Mixon, Keenan Allen

Notable Bench Players - JK Dobbins, Antonio Gibson, Nyheim Hines, Ceedee Lamb, Jerry Jeudy, Diontae Johnson, DJ Chark, Michael Pittman Jr, Derek Carr, Carson Wentz, Eric Ebron, Robert Tonyan

2021 Draft picks - 2, 2, 3
2022 Draft picks - 1, 1, 3

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Re: Derrick Henry SF Value

Postby tsarpepe » Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:26 pm

Whatever you think of him long term, there's no denying that very few humans in history have put up this kind of numbers. That by itself is worth 1st++, even if he doesn't do much after 2021.

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Re: Derrick Henry SF Value

Postby punintended » Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:03 pm

1.01 and another early first or equal value.

He’s got the contract, he owns the city and team dynamic is centered around him. No brainer and position scarcity at RB make him insanely valuable

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Re: Derrick Henry SF Value

Postby claypigeon49 » Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:31 pm

I just traded him in a 12-team SF PPR for Cooper and a 22 1st. I sent quite a few offers before taking that, and most replied with some variation of "not as high on him" or "maybe during the season."

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Re: Derrick Henry SF Value

Postby joeday » Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:35 pm

Henry's perceived value by people who don't have him is very very low.
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1996 | 2005 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014 | 2017 – πŸ†
1999 | 2000 | 2019 | 2020 – πŸ₯ˆ

14 teams | 4 keepers | non ppr | est. 1996
Projected 2021 Keepers
QB – Kyler Murray
RB – Christian McCaffrey
WR – Calvin Ridley
TE – Darren Waller


ROCKY MOUNTAIN MASTODONS
2011 | 2013 | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2020 – πŸ†
2008 | 2012 | 2014 | 2019 – πŸ₯ˆ
12 teams | 10 keepers | non ppr | est. 2001
2020 Championship Lineup
QB – Deshaun Watson
RB – Derrick Henry | Dalvin Cook | J.K. Dobbins | Alexander Mattison
WR – DeAndre Hopkins | Davante Adams | Calvin Ridley | Diontae Johnson
TE – Darren Waller
2021 Picks – 1.7 | 3.10 | 4.1 | 5.10 | 6.1 | 7.12 | 8.1 | 9.4 | 9.12 | 10.1

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Re: Derrick Henry SF Value

Postby pmart33 » Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:56 pm

joeday wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:35 pm
Henry's perceived value by people who don't have him is very very low.
That’s what I’ve found as well.
Team 1
12 Team .5 PPR (Year 5)
Starters 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE

QB Dak Wilson Stafford
RB Chubb Mixon Hunt Bell Pollard Gio
WR Metcalf Brown Diggs Cooper Golladay Jeudy Mims Tyler Johnson
TE Kelce Irv Smith

Team 2
12 Team PPR (Year 3)
Starters 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE

QB Wentz Jones Ben Hill
RB CMC CEH Taylor Swift Justice Hill
WR Adams Juju Evans Moore Higgins Crowder Reagor
TE Goedert Ertz

Team 3
12 Team PPR SF (Year 2)
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE

QB Watson Burrow Mariota Fitz
RB Hines Lindsay Wilson
WR Moore Juju Aiyuk Gallup C. Davis Mims Campbell
TE Fant Irv Njoku

Team 4
12 Team PPR SF TE Prem (Startup in progress)
Starters 1QB 1SF 1RB 1WR 1TE 7Flex-WR/RB/TE

QB Mahomes Allen Cousins
RB Najee Harris Sanders Rojo Drake Hubbard
WR Woods Fuller Parker Pittman Slayton
TE Hockenson Hooper Gronk

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Re: Derrick Henry SF Value

Postby abloom » Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:51 am

1.01 +
Henry is probably somewhere in my 3-5 ranked RBs, I wouldn't draft Lawrence/Fields before him so I would need the 1.01 + to move Henry
Dynasty Team #1:
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Wentz,Tannehill,Hill
R: CMC,Taylor,Robinson,Fournette
W: Evans,Edelman,Cobb,Davis,Mooney,Lazard
T: Goedert(IR),Henry
D: NE,BAL
K: Bullock

2021 Picks: 1.02,2.05,4.02,5.02,6.02,7.02
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Dynasty Team #2: 2020 Champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: Wilson, Murray, Cousins, Trubisky, Smith, Dalton
R: Cook, Dobbins, Swift, Monty, Mattison
W: Nuk, Godwin, Metcalf, K Allen, Sutton
T: Kelce
K: Tucker
D: PIT

2021 picks: 1.05,1.12,4.06,4.12,5.12,6.12,7.07
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14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes ,Tua, Mullens, Love, Flacco, Hoyer, Rypien, Bethard
R: Michel, Moss, Hyde, Bernard, Richard, Darrel Williams, Damien Williams, C Thompson
W: Juju, Cooper, Allen, Sanders, D Moore
T: Schultz, Doyle, Asiasi, Thomas

2021 Picks: 1.04,1.11,1.12,2.04,3.04,4.04,4.06,4.10

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Re: Derrick Henry SF Value

Postby Edgy68 » Mon Jan 04, 2021 4:18 am

I know we’re all speculating on career longevity, but isn’t it more likely a guy like Lawrence has 10+ years ahead of him compared to 2-3 for Henry? Lawrence hasn’t done a thing in the NFL, while we know what Henry is, but I think what QB brings in SF is still more valuable. That said, I’d need a significant piece on top of the 1.03 to trade him now, so 1.01 isn’t too much of an overpay.
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12-team, PPR 25 roster 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1(RB/WR/TE), 1 D/ST
QB D. Brees, L. Jackson, J. Burrow
RB D. Henry, M. Sanders, CEH, J. Dobbins, J. Taylor, A. Matt., J. Hill, K. Vaughn, S. Phillips
WR M. Thomas, C. Sutton, C. Ridley, C. Lamb, T. Higgins, JJAW, J. Hurd, J. Reynolds, T. Patrick, I. Ford, Q. Watkins, J. Meyers, C. Johnson
TE T. Kelce, D. Goedert, L. Thomas, A. O
D/ST MIN, TEN, DEN
2021 1.07, 1.10, 1.11, 3.11, 4.11, 5.11

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12-team SF, .5 PPR 35 roster: 1QB, 1SF, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FLEX, 2DB, 2LB, 2DL, 1FLEX
QB M. Stafford, C. Wentz, D. Brees, J. Burrow
RB J. Mixon, E. Elliott, N. Chubb, D. Swift, G. Bernard, B. Scott, S. Phillips
WR D. Hopkins, T. Lockett, Juju, Jefferson, C. Godwin, J. Gordon, G. Davis, P. Williams, M. Boykin, AGG
TE Z. Ertz, H. Henry, D. Goedert, A. O
DB J. Poyer, J. Johnson, J. Simmons
DL D. Hunter, Okwara, H. Landry, D. Lawrence
LB C. Mosley, Z. Cunningham, R. Evans, K. Alexander, P. Queen, T. Adams
2021 2.03, 3.05, 4.04, 4.08, 5.08

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Re: Derrick Henry SF Value

Postby davidxhorn » Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:30 am

In a 10-team SF, I'm thinking of trading my Henry for1.03/1.05/Irv Smith. He is definitely the centerpiece to my team, and he is a hell of a lot of fun to watch and root for, but I mean... He has to slow down, right??
Team 1 - 10 Team 0.5 PPR SuperFlex 27-man(2018 Champ)
Start 1x QB, 2x RB, 2x WR, 1x TE, 2x FLEX, 1x SF

QB: Matt Ryan, Tua Tagovaioloa, Aaron Rodgers, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Trubisky
RB: Mixon, Henry, Darrell Henderson, Deandre Swift, Nyheim Hines, Bryce Love
WR: Amari Cooper, Courtland Sutton, Tyler Boyd, AJ Brown, Travis Fulgham, Justin Jefferson, Sammy Watkins, Robbie Anderson, Anthony Miller
TE: Engram, Jonnu Smith
2021 Draft Picks: 1.05, 1.08, 2.02, 2.08, 3.06, 4.06, 5.06

Team 2 - 12 Team 0.5 PPR 40-man(2018 + 2019 Champ)
1x QB, 3x RB, 3x WR, 1x TE, 1x FLEX, 1x SF

QB: Brees, Minshew, Bridgewater
RB: Kamara, Conner, Gurley, Mike Davis, Deandre Swift
WR: Julio Jones, Courtland Sutton, Sterling Shepard, Curtis Samuel, Tyler Boyd, Anthony Miller, Preston Williams
TE: Kelce, Ebron, Jonnu Smith
2021 Draft Picks: 1x 1st Rounder, 1x 2nd Rounder

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Re: Derrick Henry SF Value

Postby joeday » Tue Jan 05, 2021 11:08 am

davidxhorn wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:30 am
In a 10-team SF, I'm thinking of trading my Henry for1.03/1.05/Irv Smith. He is definitely the centerpiece to my team, and he is a hell of a lot of fun to watch and root for, but I mean... He has to slow down, right??
Keep in mind his wear and tear his first 3 seasons was extremely limited (to the point people were worried Dion Lewis was being signed to be the lead RB). Two out of three years at Alabama his touches were limited too. Also watching him play he doesn't seem to take a lot of massive hits. That said, this season (and post season) he will touch the ball around 425 times (and that's if they lose in the first round). I think if you plan on selling Henry it has to be now. If not, then you will most likely have to ride him into the sunset. With my main team where I think I could get another ship or two the next two seasons I will be holding him and just move on (getting no value) when the wheels fall off.
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1996 | 2005 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014 | 2017 – πŸ†
1999 | 2000 | 2019 | 2020 – πŸ₯ˆ

14 teams | 4 keepers | non ppr | est. 1996
Projected 2021 Keepers
QB – Kyler Murray
RB – Christian McCaffrey
WR – Calvin Ridley
TE – Darren Waller


ROCKY MOUNTAIN MASTODONS
2011 | 2013 | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2020 – πŸ†
2008 | 2012 | 2014 | 2019 – πŸ₯ˆ
12 teams | 10 keepers | non ppr | est. 2001
2020 Championship Lineup
QB – Deshaun Watson
RB – Derrick Henry | Dalvin Cook | J.K. Dobbins | Alexander Mattison
WR – DeAndre Hopkins | Davante Adams | Calvin Ridley | Diontae Johnson
TE – Darren Waller
2021 Picks – 1.7 | 3.10 | 4.1 | 5.10 | 6.1 | 7.12 | 8.1 | 9.4 | 9.12 | 10.1

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Re: Derrick Henry SF Value

Postby davidxhorn » Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:06 pm

joeday wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 05, 2021 11:08 am
davidxhorn wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:30 am
In a 10-team SF, I'm thinking of trading my Henry for1.03/1.05/Irv Smith. He is definitely the centerpiece to my team, and he is a hell of a lot of fun to watch and root for, but I mean... He has to slow down, right??
Keep in mind his wear and tear his first 3 seasons was extremely limited (to the point people were worried Dion Lewis was being signed to be the lead RB). Two out of three years at Alabama his touches were limited too. Also watching him play he doesn't seem to take a lot of massive hits. That said, this season (and post season) he will touch the ball around 425 times (and that's if they lose in the first round). I think if you plan on selling Henry it has to be now. If not, then you will most likely have to ride him into the sunset. With my main team where I think I could get another ship or two the next two seasons I will be holding him and just move on (getting no value) when the wheels fall off.
Exactly, and in 2019 he also reached 400 touches inc. playoffs. It makes me nervous, but there is always the chance he is a physical outlier for that kind of work (remember in high school he had 1300+ carries, inc. 462 (!!!) in his senior season).
Team 1 - 10 Team 0.5 PPR SuperFlex 27-man(2018 Champ)
Start 1x QB, 2x RB, 2x WR, 1x TE, 2x FLEX, 1x SF

QB: Matt Ryan, Tua Tagovaioloa, Aaron Rodgers, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Trubisky
RB: Mixon, Henry, Darrell Henderson, Deandre Swift, Nyheim Hines, Bryce Love
WR: Amari Cooper, Courtland Sutton, Tyler Boyd, AJ Brown, Travis Fulgham, Justin Jefferson, Sammy Watkins, Robbie Anderson, Anthony Miller
TE: Engram, Jonnu Smith
2021 Draft Picks: 1.05, 1.08, 2.02, 2.08, 3.06, 4.06, 5.06

Team 2 - 12 Team 0.5 PPR 40-man(2018 + 2019 Champ)
1x QB, 3x RB, 3x WR, 1x TE, 1x FLEX, 1x SF

QB: Brees, Minshew, Bridgewater
RB: Kamara, Conner, Gurley, Mike Davis, Deandre Swift
WR: Julio Jones, Courtland Sutton, Sterling Shepard, Curtis Samuel, Tyler Boyd, Anthony Miller, Preston Williams
TE: Kelce, Ebron, Jonnu Smith
2021 Draft Picks: 1x 1st Rounder, 1x 2nd Rounder

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Re: Derrick Henry SF Value

Postby Needalife » Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:15 pm

It's a really tough question. Most of the teams picking at the top will not feel like they're one aging RB away from a championship so those picks will likely not be in play. Henry is a monster but the age and carries are up there. Trevor carries the unknown but if his play matches his hype (like Andrew Luck had) then he will be a longer-term and more valuable asset.

The more likely scenario is that you get some later rookie hits like Justin Jefferson (maybe with something) from a contender who picked in that 1.08-1.12 range and is RB-needy.

Purely in terms of picks, I'd sell for 1.01 and buy for 1.03.
TEAM 1 - 12 TEAM PPR TE PREMIUM - 1 QB / 2 RB / 2 WR / 1 TE / 3 FX / 1 DL / 2 LB / 2 DB / 1 DFX
QB: Deshaun Watson, Aaron Rodgers, Matthew Stafford
RB: Clyde Edwards-Helaire, Miles Sanders, Joe Mixon, Austen Ekeler, Boston Scott, Gio Bernard, Kalen Ballage, Derrius Guice
WR: Julio Jones, Cooper Kupp, Amari Cooper, Courtland Suttion, Parris Campbell, Jamison Crowder, Denzel Mims, Bryan Edwards, JJ Arcega-Whiteside
TE: Dallas Goedert, Hunter Henry, Logan Thomas, Cole Kmet, Ian Thomas
DL: Jason Pierre-Paul
LB: Darius Leonard, Jayon Brown, Foyesade Oluokon, Matt Milano, De'Vondre Campbell, Tyrell Adams, Dre Greenlaw, Leighton Vander Esch
DB: Jordan Poyer, Jeremy Chinn, Tracy Walker, Xavier McKinney
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