Next step after winning

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Next step after winning

Postby TimeWillTell » Sun Jan 03, 2021 9:11 am

So I won the championship, largely due to my depth. I am frankly surprised as I was really targeting 2021 as my first really competitive season but the rookies stepping up really made the difference. So what now?

The only thing I am debating is whether to try to consolidate and grab a top WR. The 2 I think could be attainable/in play are DK and Adams. I assume it would take something like Evans+DJM+? or Evans+Robinson+? or maybe I look to move Barkley straight up for one of those? Both teams are somewhat RB needy

Is it worth depleting my depth? Or, should I just sit tight barring a great opportunity?

Thanks for your thoughts. Happy 2021 everybody!
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Start: 1QB,2RB,3WR,1TE,1Flex,1K,1Def
QB: Mahomes, Brady, Stafford
RB: Barkley, Taylor, Dobbins, Swift, Jacobs
WR: Chase, Jefferson, AJB, Lamb, DJM, Olave, Dotson, Mike Evans
TE: Hock, Dulcich, Chig, Fant, Jonnu, Hurst, Everett
K: Some guy
Def: Who knows
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Re: Next step after winning

Postby Tobin » Sun Jan 03, 2021 9:57 am

Wow!!! Not sure what the other teams look like in your league...BUT dang did you have every 1st in 2020...LOL!!!

With your roster if you really wanted another top WR I would be ok doing Barkley for Adams.... You also could use a new backup QB, I think that is your worst spot on roster
TEAM 1:
12 team 6pt passing TD - 6pts other TDs / 1 ppr
Start QB,2RB,3WR,TE,1Flex,1K,1DST
QB: Fields, Jones, Flacco, Browning
RB: Bijan, Barkley, Swift, K.Williams, J.Warren, Hunt
WR: J.Jefferson, Lamb, D.Adams, Pittman, London, M.Evans, R.Moore, E.Moore
TE: Hockenson, Kmet, Dulcich, Johnson, Otton

TEAM 2:
12 team 4pt passing TD - 6pts other TDs / 1 ppr
Start QB,2RB,3WR,TE,1Flex,1K,1DST
QB: Dak, Pickett, Levis, Browning
RB: Achaine, Gibbs, Spears, Javonte, Gibson
WR: Lamb, Pittman, DJM, J.Williams, JSN, Burks, J.Dotson, E.Moore,
TE: Hockenson, Ferguso, Dulcich, Musgrave

TEAM 3:
12 team 6pt passing TD - 6pts other TDs / 1 pp1 - Superflex, TE Premium
1 QB / 2 RB / 3 WR / 1 TE / 2 Flex / SFlex
QB: Burrow, Richardson, Jones, O'Connell, Zappe
RB: Gibbs, K.Williams, Dobbins, CEH, R.Johnson
WR: Lamb, Pittman, G.Wilson, M.Brown, Sutton, Burks, Z.Jones, D.Douglas, Tillman
TE: Hockenson, Kincaid, Dulcich, Musgrave, Kraft

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Re: Next step after winning

Postby Gator Sens » Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:04 am

Nice build and congrats on the title. If you can grab a top wr, I would do that depending on price. I like the idea of Metcalf because it stays with your young build that could see you as a contender for years.

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Re: Next step after winning

Postby TimeWillTell » Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:10 am

Tobin wrote: Sun Jan 03, 2021 9:57 am Wow!!! Not sure what the other teams look like in your league...BUT dang did you have every 1st in 2020...LOL!!!

With your roster if you really wanted another top WR I would be ok doing Barkley for Adams.... You also could use a new backup QB, I think that is your worst spot on roster
There are some other good teams but they are very shallow. I did sell out hard starting in 2018 for a 2020 draft class. Plus I got Andrews, Chark, Robinson and Hurst off waivers at various points. I think I have 13 of the top 24 picks in the 2020 rookie draft. Guys were way under-estimating the class in my league and most guys have preferred old vets over unproven rookies. They are obviously shifting their thinking.

I agree my backup QB is not great. I have inquired but I'm not willing to pay the prices people want. Our league over-values QB for some reason. Despite being a 1QB league in a great draft, Burrow went 1.06 and Tua 1.09 and Herbert 2.02. That also helped me grab a lot of those guys with 2nds. I'm hoping Stafford is allowed to move on or that they pick it up next year and I can package him for another guy.
2020, 2021, 2022 Champion!
12 Team 1QB 0.5 PPR 30 man roster
Start: 1QB,2RB,3WR,1TE,1Flex,1K,1Def
QB: Mahomes, Brady, Stafford
RB: Barkley, Taylor, Dobbins, Swift, Jacobs
WR: Chase, Jefferson, AJB, Lamb, DJM, Olave, Dotson, Mike Evans
TE: Hock, Dulcich, Chig, Fant, Jonnu, Hurst, Everett
K: Some guy
Def: Who knows
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Re: Next step after winning

Postby Pac_Eddy » Sun Jan 03, 2021 2:13 pm

I'd sit pat. This team is solid and poised to win again next year.

Don't trade Mike Evans. He played hurt for awhile and had no chemistry with Brady. If those two things improve next year, and I think they will, he'll be even better.

And don't trade Barkley until he is healthy and has a couple big games. At that point you won't want to move him.
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Re: Next step after winning

Postby TimeWillTell » Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:09 pm

Pac_Eddy wrote: Sun Jan 03, 2021 2:13 pm I'd sit pat. This team is solid and poised to win again next year.

Don't trade Mike Evans. He played hurt for awhile and had no chemistry with Brady. If those two things improve next year, and I think they will, he'll be even better.

And don't trade Barkley until he is healthy and has a couple big games. At that point you won't want to move him.
Thanks for this. I was thinking if I could do something like Evans+Robinson for DK that made sense given that I'd be replacing an older guy (albeit still really good) and a guy with some risk due to likely new coach and UDFA status. Seemed like a good way to swap value from depreciating assets to a top asset if possible. But I see you point. And yeah I'd have a hard time moving Barkley unless it was DK+ something just given how hard RB are to get in my league and the significant work load Barkley will have.
2020, 2021, 2022 Champion!
12 Team 1QB 0.5 PPR 30 man roster
Start: 1QB,2RB,3WR,1TE,1Flex,1K,1Def
QB: Mahomes, Brady, Stafford
RB: Barkley, Taylor, Dobbins, Swift, Jacobs
WR: Chase, Jefferson, AJB, Lamb, DJM, Olave, Dotson, Mike Evans
TE: Hock, Dulcich, Chig, Fant, Jonnu, Hurst, Everett
K: Some guy
Def: Who knows
1.01, 1.03

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Re: Next step after winning

Postby joeday » Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:45 pm

Is the Adams owner rebuilding? If so I think something like DJM, Higgins or Jeudy, and Ruggs or Shenault may interest him. If there is a rebuild team out there target one of their stud WRs. Short of that I would stay put...your WRs are borderline elite and ascending.
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1996 | 2005 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014 | 2017 – 🏆
1999 | 2000 | 2019 | 2020 – 🥈

14 team | 4 keepers | non ppr | est. 1996
QB –
RB – Christian McCaffrey | Josh Jacobs
WR – AJ Brown | CeeDee Lamb
TE –

ROCKY MOUNTAIN MASTODONS (0 – 0)
2011 | 2013 | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2020 – 🏆
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12 team | 10 keepers | non ppr | est. 2001
QB – Joe Burrow
RB – Tony Pollard | Kenneth Walker III | Rhamondre Stevenson
WR – Justin Jefferson | Stefon Diggs | DK Metcalf | Tee Higgins | Jameson Williams
TE – Trey McBride

Overall 2024 Regular Season Record: 0 – 0

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Re: Next step after winning

Postby TimeWillTell » Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:33 pm

joeday wrote: Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:45 pm Is the Adams owner rebuilding? If so I think something like DJM, Higgins or Jeudy, and Ruggs or Shenault may interest him. If there is a rebuild team out there target one of their stud WRs. Short of that I would stay put...your WRs are borderline elite and ascending.
Adams owner is not rebuilding but is pretty shallow. DK owner just joined the league and not sure of his plan but he is very weak to RB and has DK, Godwin and Sutton but his next best WR is James Washington or Hardman. So I see him as a more accessible target than Adams.
2020, 2021, 2022 Champion!
12 Team 1QB 0.5 PPR 30 man roster
Start: 1QB,2RB,3WR,1TE,1Flex,1K,1Def
QB: Mahomes, Brady, Stafford
RB: Barkley, Taylor, Dobbins, Swift, Jacobs
WR: Chase, Jefferson, AJB, Lamb, DJM, Olave, Dotson, Mike Evans
TE: Hock, Dulcich, Chig, Fant, Jonnu, Hurst, Everett
K: Some guy
Def: Who knows
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Re: Next step after winning

Postby joeday » Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:38 pm

TimeWillTell wrote: Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:33 pm
joeday wrote: Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:45 pm Is the Adams owner rebuilding? If so I think something like DJM, Higgins or Jeudy, and Ruggs or Shenault may interest him. If there is a rebuild team out there target one of their stud WRs. Short of that I would stay put...your WRs are borderline elite and ascending.
Adams owner is not rebuilding but is pretty shallow. DK owner just joined the league and not sure of his plan but he is very weak to RB and has DK, Godwin and Sutton but his next best WR is James Washington or Hardman. So I see him as a more accessible target than Adams.
How bout Tyreek?
BERLIN BOMBERS (0 – 0)
1996 | 2005 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014 | 2017 – 🏆
1999 | 2000 | 2019 | 2020 – 🥈

14 team | 4 keepers | non ppr | est. 1996
QB –
RB – Christian McCaffrey | Josh Jacobs
WR – AJ Brown | CeeDee Lamb
TE –

ROCKY MOUNTAIN MASTODONS (0 – 0)
2011 | 2013 | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2020 – 🏆
2008 | 2012 | 2014 | 2019 – 🥈

12 team | 10 keepers | non ppr | est. 2001
QB – Joe Burrow
RB – Tony Pollard | Kenneth Walker III | Rhamondre Stevenson
WR – Justin Jefferson | Stefon Diggs | DK Metcalf | Tee Higgins | Jameson Williams
TE – Trey McBride

Overall 2024 Regular Season Record: 0 – 0

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Re: Next step after winning

Postby TimeWillTell » Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:41 pm

joeday wrote: Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:38 pm
TimeWillTell wrote: Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:33 pm
joeday wrote: Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:45 pm Is the Adams owner rebuilding? If so I think something like DJM, Higgins or Jeudy, and Ruggs or Shenault may interest him. If there is a rebuild team out there target one of their stud WRs. Short of that I would stay put...your WRs are borderline elite and ascending.
Adams owner is not rebuilding but is pretty shallow. DK owner just joined the league and not sure of his plan but he is very weak to RB and has DK, Godwin and Sutton but his next best WR is James Washington or Hardman. So I see him as a more accessible target than Adams.
How bout Tyreek?
Probably worth asking. Owner has historically been a little tough to deal with. He was a playoff team this year so not rebuilding. I'm guessing I'll have to give up a RB to get it done though throwing a bunch of my young WR at him could tempt him, though his young WR Talent is solid. I'd say DK owner is still most likely to deal as he took over an orphan that has very little depth.
2020, 2021, 2022 Champion!
12 Team 1QB 0.5 PPR 30 man roster
Start: 1QB,2RB,3WR,1TE,1Flex,1K,1Def
QB: Mahomes, Brady, Stafford
RB: Barkley, Taylor, Dobbins, Swift, Jacobs
WR: Chase, Jefferson, AJB, Lamb, DJM, Olave, Dotson, Mike Evans
TE: Hock, Dulcich, Chig, Fant, Jonnu, Hurst, Everett
K: Some guy
Def: Who knows
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Re: Next step after winning

Postby joeday » Sun Jan 03, 2021 9:05 pm

TimeWillTell wrote: Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:41 pm
joeday wrote: Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:38 pm
TimeWillTell wrote: Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:33 pm

Adams owner is not rebuilding but is pretty shallow. DK owner just joined the league and not sure of his plan but he is very weak to RB and has DK, Godwin and Sutton but his next best WR is James Washington or Hardman. So I see him as a more accessible target than Adams.
How bout Tyreek?
Probably worth asking. Owner has historically been a little tough to deal with. He was a playoff team this year so not rebuilding. I'm guessing I'll have to give up a RB to get it done though throwing a bunch of my young WR at him could tempt him, though his young WR Talent is solid. I'd say DK owner is still most likely to deal as he took over an orphan that has very little depth.
I would try that combo of WRs to get DK but if he wants more I would probably stay put.
BERLIN BOMBERS (0 – 0)
1996 | 2005 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014 | 2017 – 🏆
1999 | 2000 | 2019 | 2020 – 🥈

14 team | 4 keepers | non ppr | est. 1996
QB –
RB – Christian McCaffrey | Josh Jacobs
WR – AJ Brown | CeeDee Lamb
TE –

ROCKY MOUNTAIN MASTODONS (0 – 0)
2011 | 2013 | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2020 – 🏆
2008 | 2012 | 2014 | 2019 – 🥈

12 team | 10 keepers | non ppr | est. 2001
QB – Joe Burrow
RB – Tony Pollard | Kenneth Walker III | Rhamondre Stevenson
WR – Justin Jefferson | Stefon Diggs | DK Metcalf | Tee Higgins | Jameson Williams
TE – Trey McBride

Overall 2024 Regular Season Record: 0 – 0

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Re: Next step after winning

Postby cptjonesb » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:45 am

Do not add to Evans to get DK as Evans at least is equal to Metcalf, I would not add a DJM or anyone of that level

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Re: Next step after winning

Postby TimeWillTell » Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:43 am

cptjonesb wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:45 am Do not add to Evans to get DK as Evans at least is equal to Metcalf, I would not add a DJM or anyone of that level
While I love Evans, I do not agree in this case simply due to age difference. But, what is a reasonable add is very much the question. Though I'd rather not move Evans anyways.
2020, 2021, 2022 Champion!
12 Team 1QB 0.5 PPR 30 man roster
Start: 1QB,2RB,3WR,1TE,1Flex,1K,1Def
QB: Mahomes, Brady, Stafford
RB: Barkley, Taylor, Dobbins, Swift, Jacobs
WR: Chase, Jefferson, AJB, Lamb, DJM, Olave, Dotson, Mike Evans
TE: Hock, Dulcich, Chig, Fant, Jonnu, Hurst, Everett
K: Some guy
Def: Who knows
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