Which rookies to keep?

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Which rookies to keep?

Postby Black Adam » Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:32 pm

Jefferson, Higgins, Robinson, Taylor, Aiyuk, and Swift are all staying.

Have we seen enough from Mims, Ruggs, Shenault, Bryant, and/or Kmet to make them worth keeping? Every additional body cut is a compensatory pick at the end of the draft...
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Re: Which rookies to keep?

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:45 pm

I would hold Mims, Ruggs and Shenault as well and see how they pan out. Ruggs and Shenault are both raw but have the skill set and Mims has looked great all things considering on that offense.

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Re: Which rookies to keep?

Postby Black Adam » Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:53 pm

Gator Sens wrote:
Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:45 pm
I would hold Mims, Ruggs and Shenault as well and see how they pan out. Ruggs and Shenault are both raw but have the skill set and Mims has looked great all things considering on that offense.
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Re: Which rookies to keep?

Postby Needalife » Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:56 pm

I like all on your list from a dynasty perspective. Mims is my top player. Kmet is my second. Everyone else I'm not sold on... Ruggs is prob my 3rd... but I like them all probably more than a compensatory pick which I assume is after rookie #48 or so in next year's class.
TEAM 1 - 12 TEAM PPR TE PREMIUM - 1 QB / 2 RB / 2 WR / 1 TE / 3 FX / 1 DL / 2 LB / 2 DB / 1 DFX
QB: Deshaun Watson, Aaron Rodgers, Matthew Stafford
RB: Clyde Edwards-Helaire, Miles Sanders, Joe Mixon, Austen Ekeler, Boston Scott, Gio Bernard, Kalen Ballage, Derrius Guice
WR: Julio Jones, Cooper Kupp, Amari Cooper, Courtland Suttion, Parris Campbell, Jamison Crowder, Denzel Mims, Bryan Edwards, JJ Arcega-Whiteside
TE: Dallas Goedert, Hunter Henry, Logan Thomas, Cole Kmet, Ian Thomas
DL: Jason Pierre-Paul
LB: Darius Leonard, Jayon Brown, Foyesade Oluokon, Matt Milano, De'Vondre Campbell, Tyrell Adams, Dre Greenlaw, Leighton Vander Esch
DB: Jordan Poyer, Jeremy Chinn, Tracy Walker, Xavier McKinney
2021 PICKS: 2nd

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Re: Which rookies to keep?

Postby Black Adam » Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:15 pm

Needalife wrote:
Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:56 pm
I like all on your list from a dynasty perspective. Mims is my top player. Kmet is my second. Everyone else I'm not sold on... Ruggs is prob my 3rd... but I like them all probably more than a compensatory pick which I assume is after rookie #48 or so in next year's class.
This league's draft combines veteran FAs and rookies, but noted. :thumbup:
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Re: Which rookies to keep?

Postby failblazer » Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:59 am

I think they have shown enough to be excited. Maybe put some feelers out if there are some shallow teams. See if you can consolidate two for one into some high tier rookies.
16 Team PPR (9th Year Dynasty - 1 Time Champion)
T. Brady, D. Jones, C. Wentz
C. McCaffrey, D. Henry, J. Robinson, A. Peterson, D. Foreman, T. CohenIR
D. Hopkins, A. Cooper, C. Kupp, C. Ridley, D. Johnson, D. Mims, C. SuttonIR
D. Waller, M. Gesicki, D. Njoku, D. Knox, C. Kmet

C. Young, S. Hubbard
D. Leonard, D. Greenlaw, T. Reeder, N. Kwiakowski, M. Kiser IR, C. MoselyOPT, N. GerryIR
J. Simmons, A. Amos

16 Team PPR (8th Year Dynasty - Reigning 3 Time Champion)
A. Rodgers, T. Brady, P. Rivers
C. MacCaffrey, E. Elliott, D. Henry, A. Morris, D. Foreman
D. Hopkins, D. Adams, C. Kupp, M. Jones, M. Valdes-Scantling, A. Isabella, J. Gordon
Z. Ertz, A. Hooper, J. Sternberger, D. Keene, O. HowardIR

D. Lawrence, J. Simmons, K. Chiasson
R. Smith, Z. Cunningham, T. Reeder, T. Adams, B. Okereke, L.Wilson, C. MoselyOPT
J. Johnson, J. Simmons, M. Hyde, K. Dugger, B. McDougaldIR

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Re: Which rookies to keep?

Postby Black Adam » Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:12 am

failblazer wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:59 am
I think they have shown enough to be excited. Maybe put some feelers out if there are some shallow teams. See if you can consolidate two for one into some high tier rookies.
Drafted JT, Mims, Higgins, Ruggs, Kmet, and Jefferson. Traded for Swift, Aiyuk. Picked up Viska and Bryant off waivers.

Tried trading for Jeudy and Ceedee, but the owners weren't biting. :cry:
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Re: Which rookies to keep?

Postby dblj1199 » Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:29 am

Gator Sens wrote:
Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:45 pm
I would hold Mims, Ruggs and Shenault as well and see how they pan out. Ruggs and Shenault are both raw but have the skill set and Mims has looked great all things considering on that offense.
X2. I'd hold them and you can easily add the other two late in your draft if you feel the need.
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ppr, 10 team, 6 pt all td, 30 man roster QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, Flex (r/w/t), K, 3 IDP
Qb- Mahomes, Baker, Darnold
RB- Zeke, Mostert, Hunt, J Robinson, K Johnson, Snell Jr, Pollard, Ingram
WR- OBJ (i.r.), A Cooper, DJ Moore, TY Hilton, D Parker, J Jefferson, AJ Greene, AB, Q Cephus, KeKe Coutee
TE- Waller, H Henry, Gronk, OJ Howard (i.r.), Albert O (i.r.)
IDP(3)- VanderEsch, B Martinez, P Queen, A Johnson, K Neal
K- J Sanders

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Re: Which rookies to keep?

Postby Black Adam » Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:55 pm

Bump.
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Re: Which rookies to keep?

Postby abloom » Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:04 pm

When you say comp pick, how many rounds do you have?

If your draft is 3+ rounds the only player id consider dropping would be Bryant, but I think I'm much more likely to keep them all.
Dynasty Team #1:
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Wentz,Tannehill,Hill
R: CMC,Taylor,Robinson,Fournette
W: Evans,Edelman,Cobb,Davis,Mooney,Lazard
T: Goedert(IR),Henry
D: NE,BAL
K: Bullock

2021 Picks: 1.02,2.05,4.02,5.02,6.02,7.02
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Dynasty Team #2: 2020 Champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: Wilson, Murray, Cousins, Trubisky, Smith, Dalton
R: Cook, Dobbins, Swift, Monty, Mattison
W: Nuk, Godwin, Metcalf, K Allen, Sutton
T: Kelce
K: Tucker
D: PIT

2021 picks: 1.05,1.12,4.06,4.12,5.12,6.12,7.07
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DLF advice forum league:
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes ,Tua, Mullens, Love, Flacco, Hoyer, Rypien, Bethard
R: Michel, Moss, Hyde, Bernard, Richard, Darrel Williams, Damien Williams, C Thompson
W: Juju, Cooper, Allen, Sanders, D Moore
T: Schultz, Doyle, Asiasi, Thomas

2021 Picks: 1.04,1.11,1.12,2.04,3.04,4.04,4.06,4.10

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Re: Which rookies to keep?

Postby Black Adam » Fri Dec 18, 2020 5:16 pm

abloom wrote:
Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:04 pm
When you say comp pick, how many rounds do you have?

If your draft is 3+ rounds the only player id consider dropping would be Bryant, but I think I'm much more likely to keep them all.
Gotcha.

FWIW, the league is half-dynasty, half-keeper. 40 man rosters, up to 33 are kept (no picks assigned/penalties). Late August - 7 round draft, both rookies and veteran FAs (used to have separate drafts but that went away).

A compensatory pick takes place in an 8th round.

For reference, I took Lamar Miller, Chase Edmonds, Mims, Goff, Xavier McKinney, Kmet, and some other IDPs in the 2020 draft's 8th round.
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Re: Which rookies to keep?

Postby StripesOfKC » Fri Dec 18, 2020 9:08 pm

I am definitely keeping Mims and probably Shenault too

Next in line would be Kmet and Ruggs but I can see passing on keeping them
Team 1

8 Team PPR
2 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 3 FLEX, 1 TE, 1 D, 1 K
2019-20 Champion
QB: Burrow, Tannehill, Stafford
RB: Jonathan Taylor, JK Dobbins, CEH, D'Andre Swift, Damien Harris, Pollard, Cohen, Darrynton Evans
WR: AJ Brown, McLaurin, Justin Jefferson, Julio, DJ Moore, Courtland Sutton, Jerry Jeudy, DJ Chark, Gallup, Mims, Pittman, Mooney, Bryan Edwards
TE: Kittle, Hockenson, Gesicki, Trautman
D: Steelers
K: Lutz

2021: 1.6
2022: 3 1sts, 1 2nd, 2 3rd, 2 4ths
2023: 2 1sts, 3 2nds, 1 3rd, 1 4th

Team 2

IDP Orphan 12 Team 1 QB PPR 0.5 Pt Per Comp, -0.5 Pt for Incomp
QB: Rodgers, Brady, Tua
RB: Mixon, CEH, Michel, James White
WR: Lockett, Gallup, Justin Jefferson, Reagor, Mims
TE: Gesicki, Goedert

DL: Chris Jones, Grady Jarrett, Jeffrey Simmons
LB: Brian Burns, Logan Wilson, Jordyn Brooks, K'Lavon Chiasson
DB: Marlon Humphrey, Eddie Jackson, Chuck Clark, Xavier McKinney, Kyle Dugger

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Re: Which rookies to keep?

Postby abloom » Sat Dec 19, 2020 6:15 am

Black Adam wrote:
Fri Dec 18, 2020 5:16 pm
abloom wrote:
Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:04 pm
When you say comp pick, how many rounds do you have?

If your draft is 3+ rounds the only player id consider dropping would be Bryant, but I think I'm much more likely to keep them all.
Gotcha.

FWIW, the league is half-dynasty, half-keeper. 40 man rosters, up to 33 are kept (no picks assigned/penalties). Late August - 7 round draft, both rookies and veteran FAs (used to have separate drafts but that went away).

A compensatory pick takes place in an 8th round.

For reference, I took Lamar Miller, Chase Edmonds, Mims, Goff, Xavier McKinney, Kmet, and some other IDPs in the 2020 draft's 8th round.
I'm keeping all then. No idea why mims was available there.
Dynasty Team #1:
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Wentz,Tannehill,Hill
R: CMC,Taylor,Robinson,Fournette
W: Evans,Edelman,Cobb,Davis,Mooney,Lazard
T: Goedert(IR),Henry
D: NE,BAL
K: Bullock

2021 Picks: 1.02,2.05,4.02,5.02,6.02,7.02
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Dynasty Team #2: 2020 Champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: Wilson, Murray, Cousins, Trubisky, Smith, Dalton
R: Cook, Dobbins, Swift, Monty, Mattison
W: Nuk, Godwin, Metcalf, K Allen, Sutton
T: Kelce
K: Tucker
D: PIT

2021 picks: 1.05,1.12,4.06,4.12,5.12,6.12,7.07
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DLF advice forum league:
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes ,Tua, Mullens, Love, Flacco, Hoyer, Rypien, Bethard
R: Michel, Moss, Hyde, Bernard, Richard, Darrel Williams, Damien Williams, C Thompson
W: Juju, Cooper, Allen, Sanders, D Moore
T: Schultz, Doyle, Asiasi, Thomas

2021 Picks: 1.04,1.11,1.12,2.04,3.04,4.04,4.06,4.10

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Re: Which rookies to keep?

Postby Black Adam » Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:45 am

abloom wrote:
Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:04 pm


I'm keeping all then. No idea why mims was available there.
Most of the folks in the league do their research/drafting like a redraft league, so a lot of non-blue chip rookies go slightly under the radar (like Claypool).
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Re: Which rookies to keep?

Postby Black Adam » Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:46 am

Going to drop Bryant and pick up Pittman (who was just dropped).
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