Dionte or two 1sts?

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Dionte or two 1sts?

Postby grandmabetty » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:06 pm

12 team superflex 1st year. Team is not in signature. My team is bad. I may get the 1st pick next year. My weakness is qb. My strength is wr. A guy really wants dionte from me. I like dionte and he's not the kind of player I'd normally want to sell if I'm rebuilding but he offered me 2022 and 2023 1sts. I think its good value but it doesn't blow me away especially since the picks are a long way off. He doesn't have much for qb although I was thinking of asking him to throw in minshew. Thoughts?

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Re: Dionte or two 1sts?

Postby Gator Sens » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:10 pm

With the 1sts being two and three years out, I would hold Johnson. It's too hard to predict pucks and Minshew does nothing in the deal in my opinion. Hold.

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Re: Dionte or two 1sts?

Postby dblj1199 » Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:44 pm

I'm not moving Dionte for firsts that are 2 and 3 years out. Would I sell him for 2 1st's, YES, but I'd need something more than the offer and Minshew does absolutely zero for me. I'm guessing he won't even be in Jax next season with a top pick and Trevor and Fields sitting there for them. Easily holding here.
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Re: Dionte or two 1sts?

Postby JoshuaGordon_9 » Mon Nov 30, 2020 7:58 am

Adding on. Im not interested in selling Diontae if I have to wait nearly 2 years for any type of production back. JuJu is a FA, they may let him walk, Diontae has shown he can ne an alpha in that offense, and is the Pitt WR I want in dynasty.
Team 1: 12T PPR SF no premiums, 4pt TDs
QB(1-2) Herbert, Tua
WR(3-5) AJB, Adams, Sutton, Boyd, Bourne, Wicks
RB(2-4) JT, Kyren, Swift, Singletary, Moss, Ford Dobbins, Tucker
TE(1-3) Hock, Jonnu, Kmet, Kraft
3.06, 3.09

Team 2: 12T PPR, TE premium, SF
QB(1-2) Cousins, Love, Tanny, Trask, McCoy, Zappe
WR(2-6) Lamb, Olave, Hollywood, Godwin, JaMo, Sutton, Diontae, Lazard, McKensie
RB(2-6) ETN, A. Jones, Dillon, Hunt, Moss, K. Miller, S. Tucker
TE(1-5) Hock, Brock Wright, Everett

Team 3: 12T PPR SF TE Prem
QB(1-2) Fields, Young, Darnold, Trask, Dalton
WR(1-6) AJB, Pittman, Hollywood, Sutton, M. Williams, Davis, Meyers, Van Jefferson, Sheperd, McKensie
RB(1-6) Jacobs, Sanders, Akers, Hunt, T. Spears, C. Brown
TE(1-6) Schultz, Hurts, Conklin

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Re: Dionte or two 1sts?

Postby murphysxm » Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:38 am

Add me to the list, the picks are just too far off
I am just a guy sharing some thoughts

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Re: Dionte or two 1sts?

Postby tresskid84 » Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:57 am

I'm taking the 1s, it doesnt really bother me how many years out they are, but I know i'm in the minority on that view point. That said, doesnt hurt to ask for Minshew, I can't imagine he will be a deal breaker.
2021-Orphan Rebuild, 12tm PPR, SF, 1.75 TE Prem
2 SF, 8 Flex

QB: Mayfield, Z Wilson, D Jones, Heinicke, Rudolph, Foles
RB: Herbert, Felton, Evans, Nwangwu, Calais
WR: D Smith, Waddle, Chark, J Palmer, D P-J, Raymond, Washington, Jauan, Darden, Fehoko, Smith-Marsette, C Johnson, Proche, Shi Smith, A Tate, ESB, JJAW
TE: O'Shaughnessy, Moreau, Granson, Tyree J, Hu Bryant, Hopkins, Fortson
2022 Picks: 1.01, 1.04, 1.11, 2.01, 2.09, and 3.02
2023 Picks: six 1sts, my 2nd

2021-Orphan Rebuild, 16tm PPR, SF, 1.5pr TE, DEVY:
1 QB, 1 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 SF, 3 Flex
Draft is rookies and devy (only 2022 NFL eligible)

QB: Tua, Fields, Brissett, Foles, Purdy(D), T Morgan(D)
RB: Etienne, Gainwell, Homer, T Jones, J Hill, Ragas, Sargent, Calais, Funk,
WR: Cephus, Nico, J Palmer, Gage, Quez, P Williams, JJAW, Strachan, Proche, Lil'Jordan, Shi Smith, Fryfogle(D)
TE: Moreau, Maxx, H Long, RSJ, Tyree J
2022 Picks: 1.02, 2.02, 2.12, 3.02, 3.07, 3.10, 3.11, 3.12, 3.15, 4.01, 4.02, 4.05, 4.07, 4.12, 4.15

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Re: Dionte or two 1sts?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Mon Nov 30, 2020 12:58 pm

Hold Diontae
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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Re: Dionte or two 1sts?

Postby M-Dub » Mon Nov 30, 2020 3:09 pm

tresskid84 wrote: Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:57 am I'm taking the 1s, it doesnt really bother me how many years out they are, but I know i'm in the minority on that view point. That said, doesnt hurt to ask for Minshew, I can't imagine he will be a deal breaker.
This is where I’m at too. Maybe I’m just undervaluing Dionte, but if you’re as deep at WR as you say you are, I’d take the picks and just let them accrue value. I don’t think Johnson is worth two 1sts, so the only thing preventing this from being a good value is lack of patience. The nice part is, those picks don’t take up roster spots until you cash them in.
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QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer

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QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0

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Re: Dionte or two 1sts?

Postby hawk2119 » Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:43 pm

I'm taking the picks. Pittsburg doesn't like to pay up for the second WR contract so Dionte might not even be a steeler by the time you're ready to compete, and we've seen how well they tend to do wearing a different jersey.

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Re: Dionte or two 1sts?

Postby tresskid84 » Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:51 pm

Plus Diontae isn't playing nearly as amazing as hes scoring for fantasy (which leads me to believe this is unstainable long term). His yards per route run is still only at 1.84 on the season. He's completely scoring on a volume level that I just don't see continuing (especially once Big Ben is gone, possibly after this year if the rumblings are correct)
2021-Orphan Rebuild, 12tm PPR, SF, 1.75 TE Prem
2 SF, 8 Flex

QB: Mayfield, Z Wilson, D Jones, Heinicke, Rudolph, Foles
RB: Herbert, Felton, Evans, Nwangwu, Calais
WR: D Smith, Waddle, Chark, J Palmer, D P-J, Raymond, Washington, Jauan, Darden, Fehoko, Smith-Marsette, C Johnson, Proche, Shi Smith, A Tate, ESB, JJAW
TE: O'Shaughnessy, Moreau, Granson, Tyree J, Hu Bryant, Hopkins, Fortson
2022 Picks: 1.01, 1.04, 1.11, 2.01, 2.09, and 3.02
2023 Picks: six 1sts, my 2nd

2021-Orphan Rebuild, 16tm PPR, SF, 1.5pr TE, DEVY:
1 QB, 1 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 SF, 3 Flex
Draft is rookies and devy (only 2022 NFL eligible)

QB: Tua, Fields, Brissett, Foles, Purdy(D), T Morgan(D)
RB: Etienne, Gainwell, Homer, T Jones, J Hill, Ragas, Sargent, Calais, Funk,
WR: Cephus, Nico, J Palmer, Gage, Quez, P Williams, JJAW, Strachan, Proche, Lil'Jordan, Shi Smith, Fryfogle(D)
TE: Moreau, Maxx, H Long, RSJ, Tyree J
2022 Picks: 1.02, 2.02, 2.12, 3.02, 3.07, 3.10, 3.11, 3.12, 3.15, 4.01, 4.02, 4.05, 4.07, 4.12, 4.15

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Re: Dionte or two 1sts?

Postby yinzername » Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:54 pm

hawk2119 wrote: Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:43 pm I'm taking the picks. Pittsburg doesn't like to pay up for the second WR contract so Dionte might not even be a steeler by the time you're ready to compete, and we've seen how well they tend to do wearing a different jersey.
Juju is gone, Chase is #2, Diontae is ur #1 Steeler WR for the next 5 years
SF - PPR - 12t - start10
Notable Assets in Rebuild
QB: Mahomes - Levis - Rudolph
RB: K Mitchell - J McLaughlin - C Rodriguez - Z Evans
WR: AJB - M Pittman- R Doubs - E Moore - Shaheed - C Tillman- A Iosivas
TE: MAndrews - Kraft
'24: 1.1, 1.7, 2.1, 2.6, 2.10, 3.1, 4.2, 4.7
‘25: 1 1st, 2 2nds, 2 3rds

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QB: TLaw - Purdy - Goff
RB: Chubb - D Montgomery - D Singletary - A Mattison - K Miller - R Freeman - J Hill
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Re: Dionte or two 1sts?

Postby TimeWillTell » Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:26 pm

I'll take the 1sts personally
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12 Team 1QB 0.5 PPR 30 man roster
Start: 1QB,2RB,3WR,1TE,1Flex,1K,1Def
QB: Mahomes, Brady, Stafford
RB: Barkley, Taylor, Dobbins, Swift, Jacobs
WR: Chase, Jefferson, AJB, Lamb, DJM, Olave, Dotson, Mike Evans
TE: Hock, Dulcich, Chig, Fant, Jonnu, Hurst, Everett
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Re: Dionte or two 1sts?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:15 am

tresskid84 wrote: Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:51 pm Plus Diontae isn't playing nearly as amazing as hes scoring for fantasy (which leads me to believe this is unstainable long term). His yards per route run is still only at 1.84 on the season. He's completely scoring on a volume level that I just don't see continuing (especially once Big Ben is gone, possibly after this year if the rumblings are correct)
This is based on...?

Have you watched the kid play this year or last? He's putting DBs on skates, consistently.
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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Re: Dionte or two 1sts?

Postby tresskid84 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:11 am

lukkynumber13 wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:15 am
tresskid84 wrote: Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:51 pm Plus Diontae isn't playing nearly as amazing as hes scoring for fantasy (which leads me to believe this is unstainable long term). His yards per route run is still only at 1.84 on the season. He's completely scoring on a volume level that I just don't see continuing (especially once Big Ben is gone, possibly after this year if the rumblings are correct)
This is based on...?

Have you watched the kid play this year or last? He's putting DBs on skates, consistently.
I live in pa, so yeah, ive watched almost every single game. Hes good, im not saying hes crap, but his efficiency numbers are closer to what i see with my eyes than his fantasy numbers.
2021-Orphan Rebuild, 12tm PPR, SF, 1.75 TE Prem
2 SF, 8 Flex

QB: Mayfield, Z Wilson, D Jones, Heinicke, Rudolph, Foles
RB: Herbert, Felton, Evans, Nwangwu, Calais
WR: D Smith, Waddle, Chark, J Palmer, D P-J, Raymond, Washington, Jauan, Darden, Fehoko, Smith-Marsette, C Johnson, Proche, Shi Smith, A Tate, ESB, JJAW
TE: O'Shaughnessy, Moreau, Granson, Tyree J, Hu Bryant, Hopkins, Fortson
2022 Picks: 1.01, 1.04, 1.11, 2.01, 2.09, and 3.02
2023 Picks: six 1sts, my 2nd

2021-Orphan Rebuild, 16tm PPR, SF, 1.5pr TE, DEVY:
1 QB, 1 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 SF, 3 Flex
Draft is rookies and devy (only 2022 NFL eligible)

QB: Tua, Fields, Brissett, Foles, Purdy(D), T Morgan(D)
RB: Etienne, Gainwell, Homer, T Jones, J Hill, Ragas, Sargent, Calais, Funk,
WR: Cephus, Nico, J Palmer, Gage, Quez, P Williams, JJAW, Strachan, Proche, Lil'Jordan, Shi Smith, Fryfogle(D)
TE: Moreau, Maxx, H Long, RSJ, Tyree J
2022 Picks: 1.02, 2.02, 2.12, 3.02, 3.07, 3.10, 3.11, 3.12, 3.15, 4.01, 4.02, 4.05, 4.07, 4.12, 4.15

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Re: Dionte or two 1sts?

Postby MyTeam » Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:02 am

I am not 100% sold on Johnson. But I think that is only because I was sold on Juju with AB in Pitt before. I think when Juju leaves this year, Johnson will struggle as the number 1 and Claypool will become a stud. I obviously wish the picks were closer but I would lean picks. Minshew doesn't do anything for me as I am pretty sure the Jags have to take a QB this year in the draft. Maybe ask for a second on top?
Team 1: 12 team, PPR
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex

Mahomes, Lawrence
Najee, Swift, Javonte, Jamaal W, Murray
DK, DJM, Juju, Jameson, Gallup, Van
Pitts, Friermuth
1.01, 1.04, 1.11, 1.12, 3.10, 2 firsts next year

Team 2: 12 Team, SF TEP (1.5 PPR)
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex, 1 SF

Mahomes, Burrow, Cousins, Rudolph
CEH, Swift, Gibson, Jacobs, Mattison, Scott, McFarland
DK, AJB, Ridley, McLaurin, Kupp, Landry, Mims, Hamler, Miller, Johnson, Robinson
Andrews, H. Henry, Sternberger, Alie-Cox, Herndon

Same as Team 2
Watson, Burrow, Lance, Z. Wilson
Pollard, Mattison
Chase, D. Smith, Boyd, Hardman, E. Moore, Cephus, A. Rodgers, Harry, Boykin, A. Tate, Miller
Hockenson, Thomas, Albert O, Njoku
3 additional firsts

Same as Team 2
TLaw, Burrow, Watson, Darnold
CEH, Gus, Cohen
Juju, Chark, Shenault, Boyd, Landry, Renfrow, Robinson,
Engram, Kmet, Firkser, Schultz, Arnold, Herndon
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