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Postby Gator Sens » Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:02 pm

I wanted to get a general discussion going about Mixon. I'm a contender, but have received a couple decent offers for Mixon. Not so much focused on roster build, I'm curious where everybody is on Mixon. Is it time to move on if there is a good offer on the table, keeping holding and does anyone actually think he is going to play again this season based on how his injury has gone and why risk him with Burrow already going down? Community, where are we with Mixon??

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Re: Mixon

Postby briank » Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:06 pm

What are the offers?
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Mayfield/Winston
RB Mixon/A. Jones/Ja. Williams/Bernard/AP
WR Hopkins/Thomas/DJ Moore/Robinson/Jeffery/Preston Williams
TE Ertz/Cook/Hurst

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Roethlisberger/Fitzpatrick
RB Cook/Mixon/J. Robinson/Ja. Williams/Hines
WR Evans/Woods/Cooks/Fuller/AB/Miller/Diontae Johnson
TE Kittle/Henry/L. Thomas

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Burrow
RB Jacobs/Dobbins/Bernard/Dillon/Edwards
WR Adams/Diggs/AJ Brown/Woods/Cooks/Ruggs/Davis
TE Engram/Henry/Hurst/Njoku/Irv Smith

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 11
QB Jackson/Brees/Rivers
RB Da. Johnson/Gurley
WR Adams/Hopkins/Julio/Thielen/Hilton
TE Kelce/Ertz/Irv

12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Goff/Herbert/Tua
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WR Juju/Sutton/Juedy/Jefferson/Samuel
TE Kittle/Fant/Njoku
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Re: Mixon

Postby jwb32 » Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:09 pm

I've been a strong Mixon believer since he was first drafted. But I think its time to consider moving on. I have little confidence Bengals will turn it around any time soon. I sold a month ago for Jeudy+Gibson (before Jeudy breakout) and haven't looked back.
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 1Flex, 1TE, 1D/ST, 1K.
QBs- Lamar
RBs- Cook, Sanders, CEH, Michel,Murray,Mattison,LPerine
WRs- Golladay, Diggs, MWilliams, Cooks,Reagor,Crowder,Duvernay, OJB(IR)
TEs-Waller, Fant,Hollister, Kittle(IR)
2021 2nd, 2021 3rd(2)

TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 1Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Stafford, Darnold
RBs- Akers, Gaskin, Dallas, Kelley
WRs- Godwin, Boyd, Diontae, Shenault, Samuel, Mooney, Harry, Devernay, Etc.
TEs- Hock, Bryant, Trautman
1.02, 1.04, 1.05, 1.11, 1.12, 2.04, 3.04

TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Stafford,Rivers,Luton
RBs- Cook, RoJo, DHarris, Coleman, Penny, Murray, Snell
WRs- Evans, Allen, Metcalf, Boyd, Gallup,Samuel,Crowder, Sutton(IR)
TEs- Waller,Burton,LThomas,Trautman
2021 1st (2-both late), 2nd, 3rd (3)

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Re: Mixon

Postby jcc6fd » Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:11 pm

He might return this season but I wouldn't feel comfortable starting him in the fantasy playoffs in what should be a terrible offense sans Burrow. Not concerned in the least about not having Mixon this year outside of very large leagues or on a serious contender that has no other reasonable RB2 options.

I think that if you get an offer that resembles top RB value you should get out of him. I could see a lot of non contenders trying to acquire because they think it's smart to get an injured player for the future at a "discount." My thinking is that discounted value you could get now will in all liklihood be better than offers you'll get next year. Consider that with Burrow's injuries and the timing that he likely won't be the week 1 starter next year either. Could be a mess.
10 Team Half PPR Scoring: 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1Flex DST K
QB: Mahomes, Super Cam, Brady
RB: Cook, Fournette, Gurley, Henderson, Lindsay, Moss, Gaskin, M. Davis, J. Williams, Ito, Ty Johnson
WR: Julio, A.J. Brown, K. Allen, Cooks, TY, Perriman
TE: Kelce, Gronk, Cook
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Re: Mixon

Postby Gator Sens » Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:12 pm

jwb32 wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:09 pm
I've been a strong Mixon believer since he was first drafted. But I think its time to consider moving on. I have little confidence Bengals will turn it around any time soon. I sold a month ago for Jeudy+Gibson (before Jeudy breakout) and haven't looked back.
Solid future looking return there.

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Re: Mixon

Postby Gator Sens » Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:14 pm

briank wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:06 pm
What are the offers?
Reagor + a late 1st

Michael Pittman Jr + a late 1st

Nothing great but I'm worried about what a couple other have mentioned already. Burrow is going to miss time next year and Mixon has struggled anyway. I'm not saying he is on a Bell trajectory as of now, but what happens to his stock if he is RB2 next year?

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Re: Mixon

Postby Gator Sens » Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:15 pm

jcc6fd wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:11 pm
He might return this season but I wouldn't feel comfortable starting him in the fantasy playoffs in what should be a terrible offense sans Burrow. Not concerned in the least about not having Mixon this year outside of very large leagues or on a serious contender that has no other reasonable RB2 options.

I think that if you get an offer that resembles top RB value you should get out of him. I could see a lot of non contenders trying to acquire because they think it's smart to get an injured player for the future at a "discount." My thinking is that discounted value you could get now will in all liklihood be better than offers you'll get next year. Consider that with Burrow's injuries and the timing that he likely won't be the week 1 starter next year either. Could be a mess.
Very solid thoughts and this is more or less where I am with Mixon and my concerns too.

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Re: Mixon

Postby Needalife » Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:30 pm

Gator Sens wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:14 pm
Reagor + a late 1st
Michael Pittman Jr + a late 1st
I don't like the Reagor deal. I'm intrigued by the Pittman offer. It depends on the size of the league and how scarce RBs are. If RB scarcity isn't too bad, I might pull the trigger on the Pittman/1st.
TEAM 1 - 12 TEAM PPR TE PREMIUM - 1 QB / 2 RB / 2 WR / 1 TE / 3 FX / 1 DL / 2 LB / 2 DB / 1 DFX
QB: Deshaun Watson, Aaron Rodgers, Matthew Stafford
RB: Clyde Edwards-Helaire, Miles Sanders, Joe Mixon, Austen Ekeler, Boston Scott, Gio Bernard, Kalen Ballage, Derrius Guice
WR: Julio Jones, Cooper Kupp, Amari Cooper, Courtland Suttion, Parris Campbell, Jamison Crowder, Denzel Mims, Bryan Edwards, JJ Arcega-Whiteside
TE: Dallas Goedert, Hunter Henry, Logan Thomas, Cole Kmet, Ian Thomas
DL: Jason Pierre-Paul
LB: Darius Leonard, Jayon Brown, Foyesade Oluokon, Matt Milano, De'Vondre Campbell, Tyrell Adams, Dre Greenlaw, Leighton Vander Esch
DB: Jordan Poyer, Jeremy Chinn, Tracy Walker, Xavier McKinney
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Re: Mixon

Postby RoyalPalmer » Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:43 pm

I've brought this up in another thread but as a team with a 2-9 record and is dead last I'm looking to continue to churn my roster. I have an offer waiting to hit accept that is Carson + the 2.07-2.09 pick for Mixon. This lets me get an RB that is a little younger than Carson who has less concern of being in a true timeshare (Penny scares me and I also have a chance to grab Gio). Mixon still has a very high ceiling so there is a chance this is a homerun for me. I feel at the worst I get a younger version of Carson and give up a 2nd to do so. So as a non-contender trying to make a deal with a contender it is essentially passing a similar RB with a sweetener to get it done.
12 team, .5PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2RB/WR/TE, 1 SuperFlex, 25 Total (Startup)
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QB: Wentz, Garoppolo, Tannehill, Mariota, Haskins, Taysom Hill
RB: McCafrey, D. Henry, Swift, Ingram, Royce Freeman, Gore
WR: Amari Cooper, Golladay, DJ Chark, Robert Woods, Higgins, Fitz, Steve Sims, David Mooney, David Moore
TE Hopper, Jonnu Smith, Higbee, Eric Ebron Logan Thomas
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12 team, .5PPR, TE Premium, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2RB/WR/TE, 1 SuperFlex, 25 Total (Startup)

QB: Mayfield, Darnold, Burrow
RB: Mixon, Founette, Dobbins, Justin Jackson
WR: OBJ, AJ Green, Robert Woods, Diontae Johnson, Nkeal Harry, A. Miller, J. Washington, Paris Campbell, Reagor, Aiyuk, D. Moore, Nelson Agholor, Van Jefferson, H. Butler, Jalen Hurd
TE: Austin Hooper, TJ Hockson, Fant

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Re: Mixon

Postby IR1 » Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:45 pm

I plan to shop him in the off season, hoping for mid first + decent/solid prospect
10Team PPR-QB/RB/WR/WR/TE/PK/flex-DT/DE/DE/LB/LB/LB/CB/CB/S/S/flex
QB- Wilson, Herbert
RB-Kamara, Mixon, Dobbins, Akers, DHarris
WR-Adams, Evans, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Harry
TE- Kelce, Fant, Goedert, Njoku
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, KClark
DE- JBosa, Watt, Barnett, Gross-Matos
LB- D Jones, Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner , Simmons, Evans
CB- Moore, Hill, Bradberry, Bless
S- Clark, HSmith, Johnson, Dugger
IR Hunter, Barkley
2021- 1st x 1

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Re: Mixon

Postby jwb32 » Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:49 pm

RoyalPalmer wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:43 pm
I've brought this up in another thread but as a team with a 2-9 record and is dead last I'm looking to continue to churn my roster. I have an offer waiting to hit accept that is Carson + the 2.07-2.09 pick for Mixon. This lets me get an RB that is a little younger than Carson who has less concern of being in a true timeshare (Penny scares me and I also have a chance to grab Gio). Mixon still has a very high ceiling so there is a chance this is a homerun for me. I feel at the worst I get a younger version of Carson and give up a 2nd to do so. So as a non-contender trying to make a deal with a contender it is essentially passing a similar RB with a sweetener to get it done.
A mid/late 2nd doesn't begin to close the value gap between Mixon and Carson. Mixon is a lock to be the workhorse in Cincy for the next 2-3 years and regardless of where you stand on Mixon, lead back carries a lot of value. Carson could easily be outside looking in next year. This is an easy pass.
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 1Flex, 1TE, 1D/ST, 1K.
QBs- Lamar
RBs- Cook, Sanders, CEH, Michel,Murray,Mattison,LPerine
WRs- Golladay, Diggs, MWilliams, Cooks,Reagor,Crowder,Duvernay, OJB(IR)
TEs-Waller, Fant,Hollister, Kittle(IR)
2021 2nd, 2021 3rd(2)

TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 1Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Stafford, Darnold
RBs- Akers, Gaskin, Dallas, Kelley
WRs- Godwin, Boyd, Diontae, Shenault, Samuel, Mooney, Harry, Devernay, Etc.
TEs- Hock, Bryant, Trautman
1.02, 1.04, 1.05, 1.11, 1.12, 2.04, 3.04

TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Stafford,Rivers,Luton
RBs- Cook, RoJo, DHarris, Coleman, Penny, Murray, Snell
WRs- Evans, Allen, Metcalf, Boyd, Gallup,Samuel,Crowder, Sutton(IR)
TEs- Waller,Burton,LThomas,Trautman
2021 1st (2-both late), 2nd, 3rd (3)

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Re: Mixon

Postby boochluke » Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:52 pm

Short of a weird overpay offer, I am still hesitant to trade Mixon unless I'm getting a young RB back. I don't know if that is crazy or not...

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Re: Mixon

Postby jwb32 » Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:55 pm

jwb32 wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:49 pm
RoyalPalmer wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:43 pm
I've brought this up in another thread but as a team with a 2-9 record and is dead last I'm looking to continue to churn my roster. I have an offer waiting to hit accept that is Carson + the 2.07-2.09 pick for Mixon. This lets me get an RB that is a little younger than Carson who has less concern of being in a true timeshare (Penny scares me and I also have a chance to grab Gio). Mixon still has a very high ceiling so there is a chance this is a homerun for me. I feel at the worst I get a younger version of Carson and give up a 2nd to do so. So as a non-contender trying to make a deal with a contender it is essentially passing a similar RB with a sweetener to get it done.
A mid/late 2nd doesn't begin to close the value gap between Mixon and Carson. Mixon is a lock to be the workhorse in Cincy for the next 2-3 years and regardless of where you stand on Mixon, lead back carries a lot of value. Carson could easily be outside looking in next year. This is an easy pass.
Misread. This is an easy accept. Worst case you should be able to sell him for a mid/late 1st when he comes back healthy next season and the Burrow buzz (and by extension the Bengals offense) is in full swing again.
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 1Flex, 1TE, 1D/ST, 1K.
QBs- Lamar
RBs- Cook, Sanders, CEH, Michel,Murray,Mattison,LPerine
WRs- Golladay, Diggs, MWilliams, Cooks,Reagor,Crowder,Duvernay, OJB(IR)
TEs-Waller, Fant,Hollister, Kittle(IR)
2021 2nd, 2021 3rd(2)

TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 1Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Stafford, Darnold
RBs- Akers, Gaskin, Dallas, Kelley
WRs- Godwin, Boyd, Diontae, Shenault, Samuel, Mooney, Harry, Devernay, Etc.
TEs- Hock, Bryant, Trautman
1.02, 1.04, 1.05, 1.11, 1.12, 2.04, 3.04

TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Stafford,Rivers,Luton
RBs- Cook, RoJo, DHarris, Coleman, Penny, Murray, Snell
WRs- Evans, Allen, Metcalf, Boyd, Gallup,Samuel,Crowder, Sutton(IR)
TEs- Waller,Burton,LThomas,Trautman
2021 1st (2-both late), 2nd, 3rd (3)

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Re: Mixon

Postby RoyalPalmer » Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:57 pm

jwb32 wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:55 pm
jwb32 wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:49 pm
RoyalPalmer wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:43 pm
I've brought this up in another thread but as a team with a 2-9 record and is dead last I'm looking to continue to churn my roster. I have an offer waiting to hit accept that is Carson + the 2.07-2.09 pick for Mixon. This lets me get an RB that is a little younger than Carson who has less concern of being in a true timeshare (Penny scares me and I also have a chance to grab Gio). Mixon still has a very high ceiling so there is a chance this is a homerun for me. I feel at the worst I get a younger version of Carson and give up a 2nd to do so. So as a non-contender trying to make a deal with a contender it is essentially passing a similar RB with a sweetener to get it done.
A mid/late 2nd doesn't begin to close the value gap between Mixon and Carson. Mixon is a lock to be the workhorse in Cincy for the next 2-3 years and regardless of where you stand on Mixon, lead back carries a lot of value. Carson could easily be outside looking in next year. This is an easy pass.
Misread. This is an easy accept. Worst case you should be able to sell him for a mid/late 1st when he comes back healthy next season and the Burrow buzz (and by extension the Bengals offense) is in full swing again.
This is how I view it, if worse comes to worse I just churn the player over more if I'm not anywhere close to competing, which I'm not expecting to be. But in the 21-22 season I feel Mixon will carry much more value than Carson
12 team, .5PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2RB/WR/TE, 1 SuperFlex, 25 Total (Startup)
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QB: Wentz, Garoppolo, Tannehill, Mariota, Haskins, Taysom Hill
RB: McCafrey, D. Henry, Swift, Ingram, Royce Freeman, Gore
WR: Amari Cooper, Golladay, DJ Chark, Robert Woods, Higgins, Fitz, Steve Sims, David Mooney, David Moore
TE Hopper, Jonnu Smith, Higbee, Eric Ebron Logan Thomas
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12 team, .5PPR, TE Premium, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2RB/WR/TE, 1 SuperFlex, 25 Total (Startup)

QB: Mayfield, Darnold, Burrow
RB: Mixon, Founette, Dobbins, Justin Jackson
WR: OBJ, AJ Green, Robert Woods, Diontae Johnson, Nkeal Harry, A. Miller, J. Washington, Paris Campbell, Reagor, Aiyuk, D. Moore, Nelson Agholor, Van Jefferson, H. Butler, Jalen Hurd
TE: Austin Hooper, TJ Hockson, Fant

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Re: Mixon

Postby briank » Tue Nov 24, 2020 2:10 pm

I would personally hold at that price. I'm not a big fan of selling low.
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Mayfield/Winston
RB Mixon/A. Jones/Ja. Williams/Bernard/AP
WR Hopkins/Thomas/DJ Moore/Robinson/Jeffery/Preston Williams
TE Ertz/Cook/Hurst

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Roethlisberger/Fitzpatrick
RB Cook/Mixon/J. Robinson/Ja. Williams/Hines
WR Evans/Woods/Cooks/Fuller/AB/Miller/Diontae Johnson
TE Kittle/Henry/L. Thomas

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Burrow
RB Jacobs/Dobbins/Bernard/Dillon/Edwards
WR Adams/Diggs/AJ Brown/Woods/Cooks/Ruggs/Davis
TE Engram/Henry/Hurst/Njoku/Irv Smith

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 11
QB Jackson/Brees/Rivers
RB Da. Johnson/Gurley
WR Adams/Hopkins/Julio/Thielen/Hilton
TE Kelce/Ertz/Irv

12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Goff/Herbert/Tua
RB
WR Juju/Sutton/Juedy/Jefferson/Samuel
TE Kittle/Fant/Njoku
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