Tanking ethics question

[PPE82]

Kosher to drop somebody like Ballage for an out of contention team? Basically zero long term value, so nobody will trade for him. And has negative value by just adding points to a roster that doesn’t want them. Drop would be for a clearly worse short term option and pretty bad option overall (360 players rostered, non IDP, no K, no D/ST). Another competing team will snap up Ballage instantly.

This seems like a grey area to me in terms of unethical tanking.

Your thoughts?

[Jifhduke]

I feel an obligation to go for the win at all times. This has bite me in the past but I feel the this way is good for my football karma.

[Gator Sens]

If you dont want the points, dont start him (even though I think anyone should roll their best lineup regardless) and I would wait until the offseason to drop him if there are no good options anyway. I agree he likely has zero trade value, but you never know.

[PPE82]

If you dont want the points, dont start him (even though I think anyone should roll their best lineup regardless) and I would wait until the offseason to drop him if there are no good options anyway. I agree he likely has zero trade value, but you never know.

Potential points league. Plus Ballage would clearly be a starter on current roster.

[Kurtrambis1]

No one will trade you a 4th or a 5th for him? Maybe package him with a 5th to move up to the 4th round. To me this isn’t unethical. It’s well within your right to add or drop whomever (as long as you’re not dumping good players) and because it’s a potential points league he’s hurting your draft status.

Leagues are funny with name recognition. As one of my league mates said about Cole Beasley “I don’t want him no matter how good he is.” Sometimes people don’t want to trade for a producing player even if it’s the right move.

[Mjvb5]

If you can drop ballage for someone with actual upside, I dont see any issue with that

[Gator Sens]

If you can drop ballage for someone with actual upside, I dont see any issue with that

I dont disagree with this either, but sounds like there are no good options.

[cvbuc]

I would tell the entire league you plan to drop him unless someone trades you something for him and that you're giving notice in the pursuit of league fairness. Give the league a deadline. That puts the situation on them to act and no one can argue if they don't.

[abloom]

Kosher to drop somebody like Ballage for an out of contention team? Basically zero long term value, so nobody will trade for him. And has negative value by just adding points to a roster that doesn’t want them. Drop would be for a clearly worse short term option and pretty bad option overall (360 players rostered, non IDP, no K, no D/ST). Another competing team will snap up Ballage instantly.

This seems like a grey area to me in terms of unethical tanking.

Your thoughts?

If no one wants to trade him, you should drop him and pick up someone else. You should even send out a mass message saying that you will drop him unless you get an offer. Ideally drop it when he will land on waivers and not as a free agent.

[failblazer]

I don't see an issue. Ballage likely has no longer term value for your team and you can't move him so he has no value in the short term either. It is perfectly within your rights to drop him for a young player, even if they only have marginal upside, as long as you think they have a chance to provide some sort of value in the future.

[Prison_Mike]

Tanking issues aside, I think a roster spot is just as valuable (if not more so) than Kalen Ballage..

[dblj1199]

I think that is fine. I'd try and deal him to the Ekeler owner for the latest rd pick possible. If not I'd drop him for that deep stash that you have had your eyes on. I'd have no problem with it.

[murphysxm]

In my experience if you have to ask if something is ethical, you know the answer. I am not a tanker. I put my best lineup out every week. If you are just dropping him to tank, I am opposed. I find it hard to believe nobody will trade anything for him. Go after the Hasty owner, something like that

[briank]

Kosher to drop somebody like Ballage for an out of contention team? Basically zero long term value, so nobody will trade for him. And has negative value by just adding points to a roster that doesn’t want them. Drop would be for a clearly worse short term option and pretty bad option overall (360 players rostered, non IDP, no K, no D/ST). Another competing team will snap up Ballage instantly.

This seems like a grey area to me in terms of unethical tanking.

Your thoughts?

Not a grey area at all for me. Ballage has zero long term value IMO. You're doing what's in the best interest of your team. I'd drop him.

[SteelLake]

I was able to trade him for a 3rd rounder to a contender in desperate need of a RB (3rd round is last round we're allowed to trade).

Did it by sending a text asking for that from every contender, 1 said yes.. So, try that, might get a bite?

If not, its fine, if you're grabbing someone who has better chance of having more value after the season than Ballage (no matter how much smaller the chance is). If that's not the case and you just don't want points, I'd hold over dropping