James Robinson for Diontae?

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James Robinson for Diontae?

Postby ChicagoFalcon » Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:03 am

12 TEAM PPR SF TE PREM

Give: Robinson
Get: Diontae

I am in a super early phase of my rebuild with my best players being CeeDee, Robinson, Hock, and Slayton. Do I do this trade? I dont expect to compete any time soon.
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Re: James Robinson for Diontae?

Postby dblj1199 » Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:15 am

Long term I think DJ is a better option, but both have issues moving forward. JRob will most likely get a new coaching staff, which he may / may not continue to be the lead rb. Dionte will need a quality new qb once Big Ben retires, whenever that may be. I'd take Dionte here, longer shelf life also.
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Re: James Robinson for Diontae?

Postby Gator Sens » Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:23 am

Johnson in a full rebuild due to shelf life of WR's. Both have big upside and some risk moving forward, but I would gamble on Johnson.

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Re: James Robinson for Diontae?

Postby ChicagoFalcon » Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:30 am

Thanks for the input guys. I'm just a little hesitant because my JRob is my only RB pretty much. Like I said, its a very early rebuild. My other rbs are Bell, Freeman, JHoward haha
Can JRob be considered a good rebuilding piece?

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Re: James Robinson for Diontae?

Postby JJRules » Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:34 am

ChicagoFalcon wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:30 am
Can JRob be considered a good rebuilding piece?
That depends entirely on your evaluation of JRob as a talent, and what you think his future looks like with regard to maintaining his starting role going forward.

I'm maybe biased as an owner, but every time I watch him play I get the strong impression that his vision and shiftiness are borderline elite, and that he just has a really good head for the game. I think he's going to be a big deal for the next several seasons.
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Re: James Robinson for Diontae?

Postby M-Dub » Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:45 am

Have you shopped JRob around? I feel like you should be able to get a better return on him than Johnson.
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Re: James Robinson for Diontae?

Postby MyTeam » Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:06 pm

M-Dub wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:45 am
Have you shopped JRob around? I feel like you should be able to get a better return on him than Johnson.
This was my thought. But as a Robinson owner, I know nobody wants to buy him.
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Re: James Robinson for Diontae?

Postby ChicagoFalcon » Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:09 pm

MyTeam wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:06 pm
M-Dub wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:45 am
Have you shopped JRob around? I feel like you should be able to get a better return on him than Johnson.
This was my thought. But as a Robinson owner, I know nobody wants to buy him.
Facts. Only win now teams in my league want to buy him and they don't have any attractive rebuilding assets or picks. This is the best offer I've gotten

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Re: James Robinson for Diontae?

Postby Prison_Mike » Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:16 pm

JJRules wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:34 am
ChicagoFalcon wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:30 am
Can JRob be considered a good rebuilding piece?
That depends entirely on your evaluation of JRob as a talent, and what you think his future looks like with regard to maintaining his starting role going forward.

I'm maybe biased as an owner, but every time I watch him play I get the strong impression that his vision and shiftiness are borderline elite, and that he just has a really good head for the game. I think he's going to be a big deal for the next several seasons.
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And he seems to be eliminating doubt by the week. Whether you're watching film or looking at box scores, he checks all the boxes and jumps off the screen with his talent. It would seem absolutely foolish for the Jags to spend high draft capital or big money on a RB.

(That said, I thought the same thing about IND last year lol)

Regardless, if you anticipate this being a lengthy rebuild: sell the RB.
The only question would then be sell now or sell later. I'm assuming your trade deadline is fast approaching so I understand wanting to get something of value for him now to avoid the risk.

Ultimately, DJ is a solid return. But I'd try to get a little more

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Re: James Robinson for Diontae?

Postby Jifhduke » Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:11 pm

I would want to buy Robinson now due to how cheap he is being an RB1
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Re: James Robinson for Diontae?

Postby Gazzerk » Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:02 pm

It’s a tough call but I think I’d hold here simply due to how tough RBs are. I really don’t think he’s going anywhere and I was a doubter most of the season. DJ is nice but like someone said his value is going to plummet once Ben retires. I don’t even want to know what that QB situation is going to look like after that. I’m shocked you can’t find a better deal for JRob. There are several teams in my league obsessing over him and constantly sending offers to the owner but he decided JRob is the only piece he wants to keep for a rebuild and refuses to move him.
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Re: James Robinson for Diontae?

Postby cvbuc » Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:21 pm

I would be all in on buying Robinson not selling.

He had another very good outing this past weekend even though his best two runs (both long TDs) were both called back due to penalties. He's producing on a very bad team with a backup sub-optimal QB.

My point: I feel like you could get a better return.
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Re: James Robinson for Diontae?

Postby abloom » Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:19 am

Johnson for a full rebuild, but I would try to get a little bit more out of him.
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Re: James Robinson for Diontae?

Postby BradysBunch » Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:46 am

I can see arguments for both sides so it must to fair...But, I would put him on the block ( like mentioned above ) and see what else comes in. A playoff team would love to have Robinson on their team right now.
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Re: James Robinson for Diontae?

Postby XclickX » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:36 am

I was able to flip Jrob and my projected late 1st (currently the 2 seed)for Zeke and pollard. So you can get something better than Diontae imo.


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