Keenan Allen or Joe Mixon as a contender

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Keenan Allen or Joe Mixon as a contender

Postby Gator Sens » Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:48 pm

My main roster and lineup settings:

1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE, 3 flex (non SF) .5 ppr - 6 point TDs all around

Mahomes, Lock
Kamara, A. Jones, Mixon, D. Harris
Godwin, Ridley, Lamb, Higgins, Jefferson, Jeudy, Ruggs, Mike Williams
Jonnu Smith, Engram, Albert O

I can move Mixon for Allen + a little something on top.

I also have a possibility to move Mixon for JuJu+.

Or should I just keep holding Mixon?

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Re: Keenan Allen or Joe Mixon as a contender

Postby abloom » Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:29 pm

Didn't need to look at the roster it's Allen for me by a decent amount.

Looking at roster, given you only have to start one rb and you have two great ones in kamara and Jones I want Allen, even with a 0.5 ppr. I also like him better long term. I think the juju option is interesting too, depending on how much of a discount you're getting on juju. The only issue I have is that I don't know where juju will be next year.
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, Fields, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens, wilson
T: Kelce, Goedert, Thomas, woods
D: cle, nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson, Browning, Rudolph, Zappe
R: Swift, Walker, Dobbins, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen, Nuk, Tre tucker, C Samuel,
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

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Re: Keenan Allen or Joe Mixon as a contender

Postby Gator Sens » Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:53 pm

abloom wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:29 pm Didn't need to look at the roster it's Allen for me by a decent amount.

Looking at roster, given you only have to start one rb and you have two great ones in kamara and Jones I want Allen, even with a 0.5 ppr. I also like him better long term. I think the juju option is interesting too, depending on how much of a discount you're getting on juju. The only issue I have is that I don't know where juju will be next year.
I appreciate it. I'm a huge Allen fan and wanted to make sure I was not letting that cloud my vision.

I also like your point of view and read your responses on tons of posts, good stuff!

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Re: Keenan Allen or Joe Mixon as a contender

Postby abloom » Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:55 pm

Gator Sens wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:53 pm
abloom wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:29 pm Didn't need to look at the roster it's Allen for me by a decent amount.

Looking at roster, given you only have to start one rb and you have two great ones in kamara and Jones I want Allen, even with a 0.5 ppr. I also like him better long term. I think the juju option is interesting too, depending on how much of a discount you're getting on juju. The only issue I have is that I don't know where juju will be next year.
I appreciate it. I'm a huge Allen fan and wanted to make sure I was not letting that cloud my vision.

I also like your point of view and read your responses on tons of posts, good stuff!
Full disclosure, I'm a huge Allen fan. Though I traded him away preseason with herbert as a rookie and Allen not locked up yet (I think that was the situation). A week ago I traded right back for him. His value improved for me with herbert doing so well and his contract being extended.

Always happy to provide my 2 cents. Love discussing most aspects of fantasy football.
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Q: Kyler, Fields, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens, wilson
T: Kelce, Goedert, Thomas, woods
D: cle, nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson, Browning, Rudolph, Zappe
R: Swift, Walker, Dobbins, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen, Nuk, Tre tucker, C Samuel,
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

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Re: Keenan Allen or Joe Mixon as a contender

Postby Indyfan1985 » Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:41 pm

You have a bit more depth at WR than RB so as much as I like Allen, I might hold Mixon if you believe in him, or try and get back a lesser RB along with Allen.
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2018 Champ, 2019 Champ

QB - Patrick Mahomes, Justin Herbert
WR - Justin Jefferson, Tyreek Hill
RB - Saquon Barkley, Jonathan Taylor
TE - George Kittle
Flex - Joe Mixon, Ceedee Lamb

Notable Bench Players - AJ Dillon, Kareem Hunt, Michael Thomas, OBJ, Calvin Ridley, Diontae Johnson, Brandon Aiyuk, Darnell Mooney, Elijah Moore, Teddy Bridgewater, Trey Lance, Kyle Pitts, Isaiah Spiller

2023 Draft picks - 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2

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QB - Lamar Jackson, Matthew Stafford
WR - Stefon Diggs, Jamar Chase
RB - CMC, Jonathan Taylor
TE - TJ Hockenson, Dallas Goedert
Flex - AJ Brown, DJ Moore , De'Andre Swift

Notable Bench Players - Nyheim Hines, Keenan Allen, Ceedee Lamb, Jerry Jeudy, Calvin Ridley, Michael Pittman Jr, Darnell Mooney, Kadarius Toney, Baker Mayfield, Trey Lance, Davis Mills, Noah Fant, Evan Engram

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Re: Keenan Allen or Joe Mixon as a contender

Postby Mtt33 » Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:45 pm

I’d hold mixon unless you get a bigger something with Allen in return.

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Re: Keenan Allen or Joe Mixon as a contender

Postby Badgersfan222 » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:54 pm

I also love KA. But, losing Mixon makes you dangerously thin at RB. Can you get a moss type back with Allen for Mixon?
Team 1: 12 team, PPR, 25 Keepers
Starting Requirements:
1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)

QB: D. Watson, Wentz, Hurts,
RB: J. Jacobs, Swift, C. Edmonds, D. Harris, D. Evans, L. Bowden, & J. Samuels,
WR: McLaurin, Godwin, Higgins, J. Jefferson, Sutton, T. Boyd, Aiyuk, V. Jefferson, Mims, & G. Davis
TE: M. Andrews, Fant, Irv Smith Jr, H. Bryant (cle) & D. Parham

2021 Picks: N/A
2022 Picks: 1.xx, 2.xx, 2.xx, 2.xx, 4.xx

Team 2: 12 team, PPR, 25 Keepers
Starting Requirements:
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex (RB/WR/TE)

QB: R. Wilson, M. Ryan, Mariota
RB: Mixon, Swift, JK Dobbins, Edmunds, Cohen, K. Johnson, Breida, S. Ahmed
WR: T. Hill, C. Ridley, Diggs, Godwin, DJM, Claypool, Reagor, Mims, Gandy-Golden, C. Johnson (Jax)
TE: Hockenson, Gesicki , H. Bryant (cle), D. Parham

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Re: Keenan Allen or Joe Mixon as a contender

Postby Gator Sens » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:55 pm

Badgersfan222 wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:54 pm I also love KA. But, losing Mixon makes you dangerously thin at RB. Can you get a moss type back with Allen for Mixon?
The Allen owner is thin at RB. He has Gurley and Cook. I dont think either are available.

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Re: Keenan Allen or Joe Mixon as a contender

Postby zoster80 » Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:22 pm

Badgersfan222 wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:54 pm I also love KA. But, losing Mixon makes you dangerously thin at RB. Can you get a moss type back with Allen for Mixon?
This room is full of KA fans...I love him too, especially that he’s got that new contract and is tied to Herbert. But yeah you are thin at RB if you send Mixon out. The fact that Mixon has a 2nd contract gives you leverage though, knowing that he is in a up an coming offense and tied to Burrow makes his future clearer, so I’d wait for a deal that at least shot back 2nd or Gaskin, Moss type.

I know that positional scarcity is diminished a bit in a league where you only start 1 RB, but know a guy is getting 20 touches a game carries value.
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Start QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, 2 Flex, K, DST

QB: Herbert, B Young
RB: Bijan, Warren, Z Moss, K Ingram, J kelley
WR: D London, Z Flowers, JSN, J Reed, QJ G Davis, Gallup, DPJ, M Mims, J Metchie, W Robinson, J Tolbert, J Jennings
TE: J Ferguson Fant, J Johnson, Gesicki
DST: Colts NE
K: Butker

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2025 Picks
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Start QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, 2 Flex, K, DST

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RB: CMC, Hall, K Walker, Swift, M Sanders M Carter, K Gainwell, CEH, Hunt, C Evans, E Wilson, P Taylor, D Johnson,
WR: DJM, Metcalf, AJ Brown, Hopkins, M Gallup, Chark, T Scott, P Washington, G Dortch, J Watson, R Woods
TE: M Andrews, Fant , Hudson, Higbee, L Thomas, J Johnson,
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Re: Keenan Allen or Joe Mixon as a contender

Postby noen10 » Sat Nov 07, 2020 11:12 pm

Allen all day. Especially this year. I would be scared to start Mixon every week.
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10 Team PPR, 1 QB, 1 Superflex, 2RBs, 3 WRs, 2 Flex, 1 TE
2020 finish: 10-6 3rd place
2021 Finished: 2nd place 8-6
2022 finished 5th 9-5
2023 finished 1st 9-5


QB: J.Allen, TLaw, K.Murray
RB: J.Taylor, KWIII, D.Henry, Akers, Jav.Williams, K.Williams, Khunt, MCarter, ZWhite
WR: CD lamb, J.Waddle, D.London, Puka, D.Johnson, Keenan Allen, J.Williams, Tank, KShakir, QJohnston, MWilson, DDouglas, RShaheed, X.Gipson
TE: Hock, Mayer


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2024: 3
2025: 3
2026: 1, 3


Team 2:
10 Team PPR, START: 2 QB, 1 Superflex, 2RBs, 3 WRs, 2 Flex, 1 TE
2023 finished 3rd 7-7

QB: Burrow, Richardson, Minshew, Stafford, Trask
RB: Najee, Mixon, JConner, DCook, Mostert, Moss, KHerbert, KWilliams, Tsermon
WR: JChase, DK, CKirk, CWatson, XGipson, KBourne, DParker, Chark, NBrown, CAustin, TTucker, APierce, RShaheed, Ma.Mims
TE: TJ Hock, Mayer


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2024: 1.7, 2.7, 3.7
2025: 1, 2, 3

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Re: Keenan Allen or Joe Mixon as a contender

Postby M-Dub » Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:10 am

I own both and I think Mixon is still worth more, although their values have certainly gotten a lot closer since the start of the season. I don’t think it’d be some sort of egregious, team-killing blunder if you made the trade, but you’d be losing value and, as others have noted, it’d leave you dangerously thin at RB.

What kind of + do you think you could get in the JuJu deal?
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RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer

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RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
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Re: Keenan Allen or Joe Mixon as a contender

Postby cvbuc » Mon Nov 09, 2020 2:21 pm

I love Allen.
I also think Juju is on the upswing and has age on his side.

But - and I get the frustration with him - this would be selling Mixon at another lull in his value after the injury and bye week.
I really like the appeal of that Cincy offense going forward and into the future.

If you were all in for this year I would strongly consider the Allen trade - but I would probably hold out and keep Mixon unless I could get a startable RB in return as well. Good luck!
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Re: Keenan Allen or Joe Mixon as a contender

Postby Dibbles » Tue Nov 10, 2020 12:07 am

M-Dub wrote: Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:10 am I own both and I think Mixon is still worth more, although their values have certainly gotten a lot closer since the start of the season. I don’t think it’d be some sort of egregious, team-killing blunder if you made the trade, but you’d be losing value and, as others have noted, it’d leave you dangerously thin at RB.
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Re: Keenan Allen or Joe Mixon as a contender

Postby robinoso » Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:39 am

I’d prefer Mixon here. RB are fragile and depth means so much to a contender at that spot, be it start 1 or 3. Thinking forward, what happens to Jones? What would Kamara become without Brees? Just thinking this year and beyond.
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WR: AJB, Adams, Wilson, Hill, Higgins, Reed, JSN,, T. Marshall, Boutte, Arob, Ross
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Re: Keenan Allen or Joe Mixon as a contender

Postby JJRules » Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:52 am

Mixon is maddening to own and start every week, and super hard to trade away for any good return. I had been shopping him since the offseason and was finally able to move him last week. Took months of sending offers to various owners who really could have used him for something to stick.

That said, give me Allen here, especially with your roster and starting requirements.
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