Time to sell DK?

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Time to sell DK?

Postby JoshuaGordon_9 » Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:29 am

Team 2 in signature. Currently 1-7 in 12th, 9th in total points for.

Been trying to sell Zeke for almost anything. He's killing me I know: sell, sell, sell, but this one's for DK.

I know the thought process is to hold guys who are 22 years old with the sky as the limit, but I have 0 hope of competing till at least 2023 at this rate. Can't keep going down this path.
Another owner has got some great pieces.

Main pieces:
QB: Kyler, Darnold
RB: Dam. Williams (yup, thats it)
WR: Jeudy, Lamb, Reagor, Ruggs, Claypool, B. Edwards, Hamler, Patrick
TE: Fant, Hock, Irv, Trautman
6 x 2021 1sts, 2,3,5
3 x 2022 1sts, 2, 3, 4, 5
The firsts in 2021 are roughly: 1 early (currently in 10th), 2 mid (Currently 6th, and 8th), 3 late (1st, 3rd, 4th)

Clearly he is better than I am at rebuilding. I have not put DK on the block or anything, I have had a few contenders reach out to me and see if he is available, but they really don't have anything to rebuild with. (All their picks are with this guy, very few young assets) Debating floating him out to this guy, what would you look for in return? Is it worth it?

Just FYI: For those that haven't played in a 0.25 PPC league, Top RBs are usually very expensive, and go before the top QB studs. (At least this is the trend in our league) Burrow was 1.04, Tua 1.06, Herbert 1.08. I'm saying this cuz if I don't get the 1.01 Chase, Etienne, and/or Harris could easily be taken over Lawrence.
Team 1: 12T PPR SF
QB(1-2) Wilson, Teddy, Cousins
WR(3-5) Hill, JJefferson, Moore, Golladay, Deebo, M. Williams, Cooks, Coutee
RB(2-4) Taylor, Dobbins, Hunt, Moss, Ingram, D. Evans, Hasty
TE(1-2) Higbee, Shultz
Picks: 1.09,2,2,2.09,3.09

Team 2: 12T PPR, 0.25 PPC, TE premium, SF
QB(1-2) Cousins, Ta. Hill, A. Smith, Stidham, Brissett, Luck
WR(1-6) Metcalf, Kirk, Ward, Guyton, Hall, Hansen, Swain
RB(1-6) Zeke, Sanders, Gaskin, Pollard, Cohen, Dillon, Duke, Perine, S. Ahmed, Foreman, S. Phillips, Love
TE(1-6) Ebron, Higbee, Conklin, R. Rodgers, Akins, Arnold
Picks: 2021: 1.03, 2.03, 3.03, 3.12, 4.03, 4.07, 4.12, 5.03

Team 3: 10T PPR
QB(1) Tanny
WR(3-4) JJefferson, Sutton, McLauren, Kirk, Beasley, Reagor, M. Williams, P. Williams, Lazard
RB(2-3) Chubb, Taylor, Gaskin, Pollard
TE(1-2) Andrews, I. Thomas
2021: 1.02, 3.02, 3.08, 3.10, 4.02

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Re: Time to sell DK?

Postby gpaok » Sat Nov 07, 2020 7:26 am

First of all don’t sell off, rebuilt is what you want! Unless DK gives you a massive overhaul few early first ++, you have to rebuilt around him. Search the forum for what people value him at.

I would think next years first will give you a staring QB or RB!

Zeke is a hold unless you get an early first ++ this year is tough and unfortunate but his value should go back up.

Other thoughts:
Trade Gaskins when he is back to a RB needy contender.
May be you can pickup Albert O To help with TE depth too.
Look for wr coming from injuries like B Edwards on the wire.
10 team Dynasty Superflex, 1 PPR, 25 player roster
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, TE, SFlex, Flex, DEF

QB: Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Drew Brees
RB: Nick Chubb, David Johnson, Chris Carson, J.K. Dobbins, Alexander Mattison, Chase Edmunds, Sony Michael, AJ Dillon, La’Mical Perine, Rashaad Penny
WR: Amari Cooper, Calvin Ridley, Allen Robinson, CeeDee Lamb, Brandon Cooks, John Brown, Gabriel Davis
TE: Noah Fant, T.J. Hockenson, Irv Smith Jr.
DEF: Ravens, Steelers

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Re: Time to sell DK?

Postby CGW » Sat Nov 07, 2020 7:39 am

Sell everything you can get a good haul for. You need assets and capital. Don't sell anything for cheap, but you should have everything on the block.
12 Team | SF | PPR | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Watson, Cousins, Darnold, Trubisky, Flacco
RB | Taylor, Gaskin, Singletary, Wilkins, Ahmed, Wilson
WR | Adams, Evans, Golladay, D. Johnson, Miller, G. Davis, Mooney, Pascal, Coutee
TE | Andrews, Alie-Cox, Rodgers, Herndon

10 Team | SF | PPR
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Murray, Tagovailoa, Minshew
RB | Montgomery, Swift, Dobbins, R. Jones, Singletary, Vaughn
WR | Godwin, AJ Brown, Lamb, D. Johnson, Aiyuk, M. Brown, Slayton, Mooney, Kirk, Reynolds, Fulgham, Peoples-Jones, Perriman
TE | Andrews, Henry, Sample, Schultz

12 Team | SF | PPR | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, FL, SF

QB | Watson, Wilson, Darnold, Trubisky, Glennon, Stidham
RB | Hines, Henderson, Wilkins, Penny, Ahmed, Guice
WR | Evans, Ridley, Golladay, Kupp, D. Johnson, Pittman, Fulgham, Mooney, Ward, T. Smith
TE | L. Thomas, Ertz, Herndon, Sternberger

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Re: Time to sell DK?

Postby Gator Sens » Sat Nov 07, 2020 9:15 am

It always comes down to return and what it does for your future. That being said, Metcalf is a fantastic piece to build around and will be approaching his prime years in 2023. I would hold outside of a massive overhaul that really changes your future outlook. It's a bad time to sell Zeke and again, outside of an overpay keep holding for the right deal. Once Prescott is back next year his price will rebound. Rebuilding requires a ton of patience as it can take multiple seasons and ton of trade rejections before the right ones come. Make all your pieces publicly available and see what comes and evaluate one by one.

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Re: Time to sell DK?

Postby Trevormortis » Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:26 am

Piling on.

As far as Zeke goes, if you aren't competing til 2023, wait until next season to sell Zeke (unless you can get a fair offer currently). Next year, with Dak back, I believe Zeke will be back to normal and you should be able to get a nice return then. No point in selling now for less value if you aren't competing for a few years out. wait for the right time to sell and be patient.
Team 1. 12 team. .5 PPR. 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX 2019 Champ
QB - Brady, Tannehill, Big Ben
RB - CMC, Chubb, Carson, Harris, Moss, M. Davis, Bernard, Dallas, Penny
WR - Ridley, Thielen, Kupp, Cooks, Jeudy, A. Miller, Tre-Quan Smith
TE - Kelce
2021 - 3,5
2022 - 3,4,5

Team 2. 12 team. 1 PPR. 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX 2019 Champ, 2018 2nd
QB - Watson, Tannehill
RB - Kamara, Mixon, Ekeler, Melvin Gordon, Justin Jackson, Bernard, AJ Dillon, J Kelly, Ballage
WR - M. Thomas, AJ Brown, Diggs, J Jefferson, T Higgins, Cooks, A Miller, MVS
TE - Kelce
2021 - 1,2,3,4,5
2022 - 1,2,3,4,5

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Re: Time to sell DK?

Postby abloom » Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:28 am

Literally sell everyone except for dk. He is your only long term building piece.
Dynasty Team #1:
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Wentz,Tannehill,Hill
R: CMC,Taylor,Robinson,Fournette
W: Evans,Edelman,Cobb,Davis,Mooney,Lazard
T: Goedert(IR),Henry
D: NE,BAL
K: Bullock

2021 Picks: 1.02,2.05,4.02,5.02,6.02,7.02
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Dynasty Team #2: 2020 Champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: Wilson, Murray, Cousins, Trubisky, Smith, Dalton
R: Cook, Dobbins, Swift, Monty, Mattison
W: Nuk, Godwin, Metcalf, K Allen, Edwards, AB, Sutton(IR)
T: Kelce
K: Tucker
D: PIT

2021 picks: 1.05,1.12,4.06,4.12,5.12,6.12,7.07
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DLF advice forum league:
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes ,Tua, Mullens, Love, Flacco, Hoyer, Rypien, Bethard
R: Michel, Moss, Hyde, Bernard, Richard, Darrel Williams, Damien Williams, C Thompson
W: Juju, Cooper, Allen, Sanders, D Moore
T: Schultz, Doyle, Asiasi, Thomas

2021 Picks: 1.04,1.11,1.12,2.04,3.04,4.04,4.06,4.10

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Re: Time to sell DK?

Postby Vcize » Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:06 pm

I think you guys are crazy. That is not a team that is 3 years off from competing. You have 2 great RBs and a stud WR. That is a core, the other pieces can be built around that easily with waiver adds, draft picks, and the gigantic list of guys that come out of nowhere and overperform each year. You're in the perfect spot where your big weakness is WR depth at a time in NFL history where WR depth has never been easier to get. Obviously you need another QB too.

I think anyone that looks at that team and thinks "not even worth trying until 2023" is just a perpetual rebuilder that is going to chase sexy young names and is never going to really try and compete.
12 Team FFPC TE Premium
QB: Brady, Burrow
RB: Barkley, Mixon, A Jones, Hunt, Coleman, Ballage
WR: Hopkins, Hill, Lockett, J Jefferson, Fulgham, Preston
TE: Goedert

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Re: Time to sell DK?

Postby abloom » Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:27 pm

Vcize wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:06 pm
I think you guys are crazy. That is not a team that is 3 years off from competing. You have 2 great RBs and a stud WR. That is a core, the other pieces can be built around that easily with waiver adds, draft picks, and the gigantic list of guys that come out of nowhere and overperform each year. You're in the perfect spot where your big weakness is WR depth at a time in NFL history where WR depth has never been easier to get. Obviously you need another QB too.

I think anyone that looks at that team and thinks "not even worth trying until 2023" is just a perpetual rebuilder that is going to chase sexy young names and is never going to really try and compete.
Maybe Zeke goes back to being a stud next year if Dak comes back healthy and dallas improves their o line. But what if they don't? Sanders is a nice rb, but if you have just and rb and a wr, that rb is more valuable as a trade piece than he is sitting on your roster, not winning you championships, and getting older.

Without the wrs in place it's hard to not have depth at rb and make a legitimate run this year or next
Dynasty Team #1:
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Wentz,Tannehill,Hill
R: CMC,Taylor,Robinson,Fournette
W: Evans,Edelman,Cobb,Davis,Mooney,Lazard
T: Goedert(IR),Henry
D: NE,BAL
K: Bullock

2021 Picks: 1.02,2.05,4.02,5.02,6.02,7.02
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Dynasty Team #2: 2020 Champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: Wilson, Murray, Cousins, Trubisky, Smith, Dalton
R: Cook, Dobbins, Swift, Monty, Mattison
W: Nuk, Godwin, Metcalf, K Allen, Edwards, AB, Sutton(IR)
T: Kelce
K: Tucker
D: PIT

2021 picks: 1.05,1.12,4.06,4.12,5.12,6.12,7.07
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DLF advice forum league:
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes ,Tua, Mullens, Love, Flacco, Hoyer, Rypien, Bethard
R: Michel, Moss, Hyde, Bernard, Richard, Darrel Williams, Damien Williams, C Thompson
W: Juju, Cooper, Allen, Sanders, D Moore
T: Schultz, Doyle, Asiasi, Thomas

2021 Picks: 1.04,1.11,1.12,2.04,3.04,4.04,4.06,4.10

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Re: Time to sell DK?

Postby Straycatz2 » Sat Nov 07, 2020 7:26 pm

OP has so many holes and can use upgrade at QB and TE too. With the class being great at QB, WR, TE, its exactly the positions of need.

If Metcalf can net 3 1st, I think its worth the gamble. Certain drafts aren't worth the gamble but this one coming up is perfect for Sflex & TE prem. If hit on a few picks then can compete next year or 2022.

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Re: Time to sell DK?

Postby Mjvb5 » Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:51 pm

I'll float out what I got if it helps as a point to shoot for
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Re: Time to sell DK?

Postby BradyT » Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:01 am

Unless you get three 1sts + a player like Kirk you need to treat DK as what he is. A tremendous cornerstone to build your franchise around.
36(3x12teams),48roster,ppr,IDP 1QB,2RB,2WR,1TE,2Flex,1K,2DL,2LB,2DB,3Flex
QB:Mahomes,Mariota,Lamar,Trubisky,JimmyG
RB:Saquon,Gurley,Chubb,Fournette,Henry,Coleman
WR:OBJ,Hopkins,Evans,Landry,Goodwin
TE:Gronk
DL:Watt,Campbell
LB:DJones,TSmith,LVEsch,Kendricks,Schobert,McKinney


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