Chubb vs Dobbins

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Chubb vs Dobbins

Postby Badgersfan222 » Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:53 pm

What’s the value difference between Chubb and Dobbins? I just acquired Chubb for team 2 and 6-1. Was immediately contacted by Dobbins owner.

DTC calc has Chubb low at 35 but Dobbins only at 19 cause he hasn’t popped. 2021 3rd and Peolple Jones? (Owner has no 1st or 2nd in 21) Would love to have Jacobs, Swift and Dobbins.

Thoughts?
Team 1: 12 team, PPR, 25 Keepers
Starting Requirements:
1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)

QB: D. Watson, Wentz, Hurts,
RB: Jacobs, Swift, D. Harris, D. Evans, L. Bowden, J. Samuels, C. Clement
WR: McLaurin, Godwin, Higgins, J. Jefferson, Sutton, T. Boyd, Aiyuk, Hardman, V. Jefferson, Mims, G. Davis, DPJ, K. Hill, H. Butler
TE: M. Andrews, Fant, Irv Smith Jr, Jarwin, H. Bryant (cle)

2021 Picks: N/A
2022 Picks: 1.xx, 2.xx, 2.xx, 2.xx, 4.xx

Team 2: 12 team, PPR, 25 Keepers
Starting Requirements:
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex (RB/WR/TE)

QB: R. Wilson, Brady, Darnold
RB: Mixon, Swift, JK Dobbins, Edmunds, Cohen, K. Johnson, Hyde,
WR: T. Hill, C. Ridley, Diggs, Godwin, DJM, Claypool, Reagor, Mims, S. Miller, Gandy-Golden, C. Johnson (Jax)
TE: Hockenson, Gesicki , H. Bryant (cle), Sternburger

2021 Picks: 2.6, 3.1, 3.2
2022 Picks: 1.xx, 2.xx, 2.xx, 3.xx, 4.xx,

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Re: Chubb vs Dobbins

Postby Gator Sens » Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:02 pm

With the unknown of Dobbins, at least an early 1st.

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Re: Chubb vs Dobbins

Postby Badgersfan222 » Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:05 pm

Gator Sens wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:02 pm
With the unknown of Dobbins, at least an early 1st.
Agreed. He hasn’t looked good this week. Could almost flip Chubb for Zeke it Gibson + picks. Or keep him 🤣🤣
Team 1: 12 team, PPR, 25 Keepers
Starting Requirements:
1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)

QB: D. Watson, Wentz, Hurts,
RB: Jacobs, Swift, D. Harris, D. Evans, L. Bowden, J. Samuels, C. Clement
WR: McLaurin, Godwin, Higgins, J. Jefferson, Sutton, T. Boyd, Aiyuk, Hardman, V. Jefferson, Mims, G. Davis, DPJ, K. Hill, H. Butler
TE: M. Andrews, Fant, Irv Smith Jr, Jarwin, H. Bryant (cle)

2021 Picks: N/A
2022 Picks: 1.xx, 2.xx, 2.xx, 2.xx, 4.xx

Team 2: 12 team, PPR, 25 Keepers
Starting Requirements:
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex (RB/WR/TE)

QB: R. Wilson, Brady, Darnold
RB: Mixon, Swift, JK Dobbins, Edmunds, Cohen, K. Johnson, Hyde,
WR: T. Hill, C. Ridley, Diggs, Godwin, DJM, Claypool, Reagor, Mims, S. Miller, Gandy-Golden, C. Johnson (Jax)
TE: Hockenson, Gesicki , H. Bryant (cle), Sternburger

2021 Picks: 2.6, 3.1, 3.2
2022 Picks: 1.xx, 2.xx, 2.xx, 3.xx, 4.xx,

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Re: Chubb vs Dobbins

Postby PBFalcon » Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:03 pm

Gator Sens wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:02 pm
With the unknown of Dobbins, at least an early 1st.
Dobbins and an early 1st would get me thinking. But the main attraction to me would be the early 1st. If Dobbins doesn't get a large share of the workload this week, then he may be looking at being a committee back for a while.
10 team dynasty
Standard scoring (no PPR, all TDs 6pts)
Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 4 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 K, 1 Def

QB: P Mahomes, L Jackson
RB: C Edwards-Helaire, J Taylor, J Mixon, N Chubb, M Sanders, C Carson, R Penny, J McKinnon
WR: T Hill, DK Metcalf, M Evans, C Godwin, J Smith-Schuster, M Williams, M Hardman, J Jefferson, B Edwards, D Mims
TE: G Kittle, H Henry
K: Stream
Def: Stream

2021 picks: 1,2,3,4,5,6 (1st and 2nd picks are from another owner and projected to be early to mid)

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Re: Chubb vs Dobbins

Postby Badgersfan222 » Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:05 pm

PBFalcon wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:03 pm
Gator Sens wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:02 pm
With the unknown of Dobbins, at least an early 1st.
Dobbins and an early 1st would get me thinking. But the main attraction to me would be the early 1st. If Dobbins doesn't get a large share of the workload this week, then he may be looking at being a committee back for a while.
No way owner includes 1st. He “says” he values Chubb and Dobbins same. I’d CONSIDER for a 3rd, Z. Moss, and DPJ. Don’t love it though.

Would rather move Chubb for a young RB and WR piece
Team 1: 12 team, PPR, 25 Keepers
Starting Requirements:
1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)

QB: D. Watson, Wentz, Hurts,
RB: Jacobs, Swift, D. Harris, D. Evans, L. Bowden, J. Samuels, C. Clement
WR: McLaurin, Godwin, Higgins, J. Jefferson, Sutton, T. Boyd, Aiyuk, Hardman, V. Jefferson, Mims, G. Davis, DPJ, K. Hill, H. Butler
TE: M. Andrews, Fant, Irv Smith Jr, Jarwin, H. Bryant (cle)

2021 Picks: N/A
2022 Picks: 1.xx, 2.xx, 2.xx, 2.xx, 4.xx

Team 2: 12 team, PPR, 25 Keepers
Starting Requirements:
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex (RB/WR/TE)

QB: R. Wilson, Brady, Darnold
RB: Mixon, Swift, JK Dobbins, Edmunds, Cohen, K. Johnson, Hyde,
WR: T. Hill, C. Ridley, Diggs, Godwin, DJM, Claypool, Reagor, Mims, S. Miller, Gandy-Golden, C. Johnson (Jax)
TE: Hockenson, Gesicki , H. Bryant (cle), Sternburger

2021 Picks: 2.6, 3.1, 3.2
2022 Picks: 1.xx, 2.xx, 2.xx, 3.xx, 4.xx,

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Re: Chubb vs Dobbins

Postby dark_knite03 » Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:26 pm

Badgersfan222 wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:05 pm
PBFalcon wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:03 pm
Gator Sens wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:02 pm
With the unknown of Dobbins, at least an early 1st.
Dobbins and an early 1st would get me thinking. But the main attraction to me would be the early 1st. If Dobbins doesn't get a large share of the workload this week, then he may be looking at being a committee back for a while.
No way owner includes 1st. He “says” he values Chubb and Dobbins same. I’d CONSIDER for a 3rd, Z. Moss, and DPJ. Don’t love it though.

Would rather move Chubb for a young RB and WR piece
Keep chubb over the pile of throw ins listed
Est '17 12 Team 1PPR 4-Pass 6-Rush/Recieve TD
Start QB RB RB WR WR TE FX FX K DL LB DB
Ryan, Minshew, D.Carr
JT, Dobbins,Monty,Singletary,Penny, D Williams
Harris, Dillon,GustheBus, JJ Taylor, Royce F
Diggs, AJB, Jefferson, DJM, Deebo, Juedy
C.Davis, Mims, Claypool, Edwards, Washington
Kittle, Andrews,Njoku, Albert O,
2021
1.02,1.04,2.04,2.06,4.04,5.04

Superflex Est 19' - - Tiered PPR
QB RB RB WR WR TE FX SF K D
Wilson, Watson, Rivers, Lock
Henry, Chubb, Sanders, Gordon, Jrob, Gallman, Moss, Davis
Adams, Godwin, DJM ,Kenaan, AJB, Hardman, Jefferson
Andrews, Goedert

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Re: Chubb vs Dobbins

Postby FantasyFreak » Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:53 pm

Badgersfan222 wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:05 pm
PBFalcon wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:03 pm
Gator Sens wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:02 pm
With the unknown of Dobbins, at least an early 1st.
Dobbins and an early 1st would get me thinking. But the main attraction to me would be the early 1st. If Dobbins doesn't get a large share of the workload this week, then he may be looking at being a committee back for a while.
No way owner includes 1st. He “says” he values Chubb and Dobbins same. I’d CONSIDER for a 3rd, Z. Moss, and DPJ. Don’t love it though.

Would rather move Chubb for a young RB and WR piece
I have both, but if your'e a contender it's Chubb. Love JK, but he hasn't proven anything yet. Those other players don'e move the needle. Since he contacted you, you set the terms. Tell him you'r fine riding Chubb after his bye with your contending team. If he want him, the terms are Dobbins and a future first (Or whatever your terms are). Tell him you'd "consider" throwing a third back. If he doesn't like it, no Chubb. (insert joke here)

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Re: Chubb vs Dobbins

Postby kmbryant09 » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:11 pm

Not sure why everyone is so down on Dobbins.

Call me crazy, but I don't think I'm alone, I drafted Dobbins fully expecting 2020 to be a redshirt year. All I wanted to see was him flash some big play ability at the pro level - which he has more than done - and expect him to be the starter heading into 2021.

I get that Chubb likely helps you more this year, but I'm not sure that's a foregone conclusion given the injuries to both Chubb and Ingram.

Considering that Dobbins is 3 years younger with a much cleaner bill of health, I don't see any reason why Chubb should be valued more than Dobbins.
10-team/.5 PPR/5 Pts per Passing TD. Start 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLEX (rb/wr/te)
QB: K. Murray, J. Hurts, B. Mayfield
RB: M. Sanders, C. Edwards-Helaire, J. Robinson, J.K. Dobbins, A. Gibson, M. Gaskin, T. Pollard, C. Edmonds, G. Edwards, P. Lindsay, B. Scott
WR: A.J. Brown, C. Ridley, Di. Johnson, O. Beckham Jr., J. Reagor, D. Mooney, P. Williams, Q. Cephus
TE: E. Engram, I. Smith Jr., R. Gronkowski

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2021 Picks: 1.08 / 2.05 / 3.10 / 4.10
2022 Picks: 2, 3, 4

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Re: Chubb vs Dobbins

Postby PBFalcon » Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:11 pm

kmbryant09 wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:11 pm
Not sure why everyone is so down on Dobbins.

Call me crazy, but I don't think I'm alone, I drafted Dobbins fully expecting 2020 to be a redshirt year. All I wanted to see was him flash some big play ability at the pro level - which he has more than done - and expect him to be the starter heading into 2021.

I get that Chubb likely helps you more this year, but I'm not sure that's a foregone conclusion given the injuries to both Chubb and Ingram.

Considering that Dobbins is 3 years younger with a much cleaner bill of health, I don't see any reason why Chubb should be valued more than Dobbins.
To each his own and I am definitely not trying to persuade you, but..... I think what has people a little cautious is... 1 that the Ravens offense has not been as efficient as last year. 2 if you take away his 2 big runs his YPC is very low. 3. This committee might be here to stay.
10 team dynasty
Standard scoring (no PPR, all TDs 6pts)
Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 4 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 K, 1 Def

QB: P Mahomes, L Jackson
RB: C Edwards-Helaire, J Taylor, J Mixon, N Chubb, M Sanders, C Carson, R Penny, J McKinnon
WR: T Hill, DK Metcalf, M Evans, C Godwin, J Smith-Schuster, M Williams, M Hardman, J Jefferson, B Edwards, D Mims
TE: G Kittle, H Henry
K: Stream
Def: Stream

2021 picks: 1,2,3,4,5,6 (1st and 2nd picks are from another owner and projected to be early to mid)

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Re: Chubb vs Dobbins

Postby BradysBunch » Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:11 pm

This is the situation where you value your guy more. If I had Chubb, I would want more added. And the Dobbins owner drafted him knowing this year would not produce much. ( Like the above post....redshirt) Personally, I would prefer dobbins over Chubb.
10 team / 28 man rosters
2015/2017/2019 Champ
SF/PPR in 2021
QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/WR/TE/flex
Mahomes/Murray/Winston/Haskins/Trubisky
Barkley/CMAC/CEH/Mixon/Robinson/Harris
Hopkins/Thomas/DJM/Woods/Lamb/B. Edwards/P.Williams/Campbell/MVS/AB
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Re: Chubb vs Dobbins

Postby FantasyFreak » Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:41 am

kmbryant09 wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:11 pm
Not sure why everyone is so down on Dobbins.

Call me crazy, but I don't think I'm alone, I drafted Dobbins fully expecting 2020 to be a redshirt year. All I wanted to see was him flash some big play ability at the pro level - which he has more than done - and expect him to be the starter heading into 2021.

I get that Chubb likely helps you more this year, but I'm not sure that's a foregone conclusion given the injuries to both Chubb and Ingram.

Considering that Dobbins is 3 years younger with a much cleaner bill of health, I don't see any reason why Chubb should be valued more than Dobbins.
I love Dobbins, but on a contending team, it's Chubb. Dobbins hasn't proven anything yet, despite my belief in him. Chubb has been a 5.0 plus YPC back since he stepped on an NFL field. As a 6-1 team, Chubb for the next 2 years easily over Dobbins. The other guy came to him. Chubb is a freak athlete, and could play well into his late 20's. He's one of, if not the best pure runners in the game. There are many reasons why he's valued more than Dobbins, and those are a few. I love JK, but I'm not moving Chubb on my 6-1 team (I have the same scenario) or Dobbins straight up. Makes no sense.

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Re: Chubb vs Dobbins

Postby FantasyFreak » Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:42 am

PBFalcon wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:11 pm
kmbryant09 wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:11 pm
Not sure why everyone is so down on Dobbins.

Call me crazy, but I don't think I'm alone, I drafted Dobbins fully expecting 2020 to be a redshirt year. All I wanted to see was him flash some big play ability at the pro level - which he has more than done - and expect him to be the starter heading into 2021.

I get that Chubb likely helps you more this year, but I'm not sure that's a foregone conclusion given the injuries to both Chubb and Ingram.

Considering that Dobbins is 3 years younger with a much cleaner bill of health, I don't see any reason why Chubb should be valued more than Dobbins.
To each his own and I am definitely not trying to persuade you, but..... I think what has people a little cautious is... 1 that the Ravens offense has not been as efficient as last year. 2 if you take away his 2 big runs his YPC is very low. 3. This committee might be here to stay.
I am fully aboard the Chubb side, he's worth more to a contender, but this is the worst argument vs any RB.

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Re: Chubb vs Dobbins

Postby PBFalcon » Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:22 am

FantasyFreak wrote:
Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:42 am
PBFalcon wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:11 pm
kmbryant09 wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:11 pm
Not sure why everyone is so down on Dobbins.

Call me crazy, but I don't think I'm alone, I drafted Dobbins fully expecting 2020 to be a redshirt year. All I wanted to see was him flash some big play ability at the pro level - which he has more than done - and expect him to be the starter heading into 2021.

I get that Chubb likely helps you more this year, but I'm not sure that's a foregone conclusion given the injuries to both Chubb and Ingram.

Considering that Dobbins is 3 years younger with a much cleaner bill of health, I don't see any reason why Chubb should be valued more than Dobbins.
To each his own and I am definitely not trying to persuade you, but..... I think what has people a little cautious is... 1 that the Ravens offense has not been as efficient as last year. 2 if you take away his 2 big runs his YPC is very low. 3. This committee might be here to stay.
I am fully aboard the Chubb side, he's worth more to a contender, but this is the worst argument vs any RB.
Yeah. I admit its kinda lame. But it is something that bothers me, whether it bothers anyone else or not I couldn't say. It ust worries me that a little over half his yards came on 2 carries.
Definitely not an argument to stand on, but it keeps we wondering why, nevertheless..
10 team dynasty
Standard scoring (no PPR, all TDs 6pts)
Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 4 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 K, 1 Def

QB: P Mahomes, L Jackson
RB: C Edwards-Helaire, J Taylor, J Mixon, N Chubb, M Sanders, C Carson, R Penny, J McKinnon
WR: T Hill, DK Metcalf, M Evans, C Godwin, J Smith-Schuster, M Williams, M Hardman, J Jefferson, B Edwards, D Mims
TE: G Kittle, H Henry
K: Stream
Def: Stream

2021 picks: 1,2,3,4,5,6 (1st and 2nd picks are from another owner and projected to be early to mid)

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Re: Chubb vs Dobbins

Postby Mjvb5 » Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:54 am

Three years of age while yes is significant isn't enough to make me move off a proven stud who's shown that his floor in a full blow committee is a low rb1 for a guy who
Isn't proven
Is also in a committee until further notice
Hasn't looked exceptional but has shown glimpses
And is significantly less useful for a contender

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Re: Chubb vs Dobbins

Postby Badgersfan222 » Sat Nov 07, 2020 7:07 pm

Here’s the offer currently: (team 2)

I send: Chubb & Edwards
I receive: Dobbins, Z. Moss, & 2021 3rd

I still don’t love it. Was thinking of countering:

I send: Chubb, Edwards & 2021 2nd
I receive: Dobbins, Z. Moss, & 2021 1st

I feel like if I can’t get the counter above, it’s not worth it as I’m paying top dollar for Dobbins assuming he’s going to get the Chubbs level soon. Thoughts? Being greedy?
Team 1: 12 team, PPR, 25 Keepers
Starting Requirements:
1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)

QB: D. Watson, Wentz, Hurts,
RB: Jacobs, Swift, D. Harris, D. Evans, L. Bowden, J. Samuels, C. Clement
WR: McLaurin, Godwin, Higgins, J. Jefferson, Sutton, T. Boyd, Aiyuk, Hardman, V. Jefferson, Mims, G. Davis, DPJ, K. Hill, H. Butler
TE: M. Andrews, Fant, Irv Smith Jr, Jarwin, H. Bryant (cle)

2021 Picks: N/A
2022 Picks: 1.xx, 2.xx, 2.xx, 2.xx, 4.xx

Team 2: 12 team, PPR, 25 Keepers
Starting Requirements:
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex (RB/WR/TE)

QB: R. Wilson, Brady, Darnold
RB: Mixon, Swift, JK Dobbins, Edmunds, Cohen, K. Johnson, Hyde,
WR: T. Hill, C. Ridley, Diggs, Godwin, DJM, Claypool, Reagor, Mims, S. Miller, Gandy-Golden, C. Johnson (Jax)
TE: Hockenson, Gesicki , H. Bryant (cle), Sternburger

2021 Picks: 2.6, 3.1, 3.2
2022 Picks: 1.xx, 2.xx, 2.xx, 3.xx, 4.xx,


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