Get Barkley? GOT BARKLEY

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Get Barkley? GOT BARKLEY

Postby saw061600 » Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:31 pm

Non PPR
Barkley or
Cooper, Reagor, VanderEsch, 2021 late first

I think is a Reagor too much but where is everyone else?

******EDIT*********
Got: Barkley + Quinnen Williams (DL)
Gave: Cooper, Watkins, Vander Esch, 2021 late first

Trade talks started with group text saying Barkley available.
I asked if there were specific positions/age etc. he wanted in return (figured first was automatically in the deal)
Was told First and a great LB
I replied the ask was too low
This was the end result after a few offers and emails back and forth.
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10 TM No PPR or waiver 85RST
Herbert JimmyG
Barkley Chubb Taylor DMonty RoJo Bell Sony
Evans ARob Boyd Reagor Jeudy Aiyuk Dionte MWill
Kelce Andrews Jonnu Hooper
Watt Williams Richardson Taylor Graham
Kendricks DCampbell DJones Baker Kiser Brooks
Adams Simmons Vaccaro Joseph

12 TM .5ppr 45 RST
Dak Herbert Dalton
Mixon DHenry Carson MDavis Penny DEvans Duke
DK Julio Cooper ARob Cooks Thielen Jakobi BEdwards Mooney DGabriel
Kelce Andrews
Hunter Barnett Clark Crosby G-Matur
Kendricks Warner Perryman Milano Campbell Baker ShaqT
Budda Neal Clark Karl

1-2QB 2-4RB 3-4WR 1-3TE
QB Herbert Murray Stafford
RB Taylor Jacobs Gaskin Hines Penny Mack Hill Peterson
WR Ridley Jefferson Golladay JuJu Diggs Reagor Chark Boyd
TE Kittle Kelce AOk
DL Gholston Fowler Barnett Lawson Hall Kinlaw
LB Queen Thompson Jewell Nwosu Kwon Kyzir
DB Peppers Fitz Clark Sorensen KJoseph

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Re: Get Barkley? (Poll)

Postby hoos89 » Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:58 pm

I don't do IDP, but it feels light for Barkley unless VanderEsch is worth like a 1st
Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
Rodgers, Tannehill, Wentz
Jacobs, Ekeler, Conner, Taylor, Gaskin, D. Harris, McKinnon, Richard, Ahmed
AJB, Moore, Aiyuk, Claypool, Slayton, MVS, Agholor, J. Gordon, James
Andrews, Herndon,
IR(3): Sutton, Michel, Love
Taxi(4): Tua, G. Davis, Bowden
2021 Picks: 1, 1, 1, 3, 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
Tannehill, Tua, Bridgewater
CEH, Ito, Barkley, Ito, J. Jackson, Richard, JJ Taylor, Homer, Love, Foreman
J. Jefferson, McLaurin, Jeudy, T. Higgins, Cooks, Berrios, Byrd, Berrios, C. Johnson, T. Johnson, Foster, J. Smith, Ford, Harmon
Hooper, Herndon
2021 Picks: 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 4

Team 1: 2012-2016
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Re: Get Barkley? (Poll)

Postby IR1 » Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:07 pm

Agree, light for me too. Like VanderEsch but I’d want a more durable LB than him
10Team PPR-QB/RB/WR/WR/TE/PK/flex-DT/DE/DE/LB/LB/LB/CB/CB/S/S/flex
QB- Wilson, Herbert
RB-Kamara, Mixon, Dobbins, Akers, DHarris, Bernard
WR-Adams, Evans, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Harry, Meyers
TE- Kelce, Fant, Goedert
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, KClark
DE- JBosa, Watts, Barnett, Gross-Matos, Chaisson
LB- D Jones, Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner , Simmons
CB- Moore, Hill, Bradberry
S- Clark, HSmith, Johnson
IR Hunter, Barkley
2021- 1st x 1, 2nd x3

12 team SF QB/RB/WR/TE/ 3flex/1SF
QB- Wentz, Cousins, Lock, Bridgewater, Minshew, Hurts
RB- Dobbins, Guice, KJohnson, Michel, Sanders, Dillon, Hill
WR- Allen, Lockett, AJ Brown, JJAW, Meyers, DJax, AMiller, Mims, Sheppard, MJones, Kirk, KCole
TE- Ertz, Fant, Hurst, Dwelley

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Re: Get Barkley? GOT BARKLEY

Postby hoos89 » Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:39 pm

you got Reagor swapped for Watkins? very, very good deal for you
Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
Rodgers, Tannehill, Wentz
Jacobs, Ekeler, Conner, Taylor, Gaskin, D. Harris, McKinnon, Richard, Ahmed
AJB, Moore, Aiyuk, Claypool, Slayton, MVS, Agholor, J. Gordon, James
Andrews, Herndon,
IR(3): Sutton, Michel, Love
Taxi(4): Tua, G. Davis, Bowden
2021 Picks: 1, 1, 1, 3, 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
Tannehill, Tua, Bridgewater
CEH, Ito, Barkley, Ito, J. Jackson, Richard, JJ Taylor, Homer, Love, Foreman
J. Jefferson, McLaurin, Jeudy, T. Higgins, Cooks, Berrios, Byrd, Berrios, C. Johnson, T. Johnson, Foster, J. Smith, Ford, Harmon
Hooper, Herndon
2021 Picks: 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 4

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Re: Get Barkley? GOT BARKLEY

Postby Gator Sens » Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:14 pm

Nice deal!

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Re: Get Barkley? GOT BARKLEY

Postby sct » Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:44 pm

I'd be more excited for you if I hadn't owned Barkley each of the last two seasons. To be fair, he was instrumental in my championship after doing without him all year last year. Having it happen again this year was too much to bear and I sold him for Miles Sanders and Boston Scott after shopping him to the whole league for a week that was the best I could get.
12 team no limit keeper PPR
4patd, 6ruretd, 1/25 payd, 1/10 ruyd, 1ppr Start 1QB, 2RB,2WR,1Flex, 1TE,1k, 2idp
QB: Jackson, Bridgewater
RB: Cook, Drake, Sanders, Edmonds, Jackson(IR), Murray, Mattison, Scott, Hyde
WR: MT, Lockett, McLaurin, Moore, AB, Reynolds
TE: Andrews, Smith

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Re: Get Barkley? GOT BARKLEY

Postby hoos89 » Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:54 pm

sct wrote:
Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:44 pm
I'd be more excited for you if I hadn't owned Barkley each of the last two seasons. To be fair, he was instrumental in my championship after doing without him all year last year. Having it happen again this year was too much to bear and I sold him for Miles Sanders and Boston Scott after shopping him to the whole league for a week that was the best I could get.
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Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
Rodgers, Tannehill, Wentz
Jacobs, Ekeler, Conner, Taylor, Gaskin, D. Harris, McKinnon, Richard, Ahmed
AJB, Moore, Aiyuk, Claypool, Slayton, MVS, Agholor, J. Gordon, James
Andrews, Herndon,
IR(3): Sutton, Michel, Love
Taxi(4): Tua, G. Davis, Bowden
2021 Picks: 1, 1, 1, 3, 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
Tannehill, Tua, Bridgewater
CEH, Ito, Barkley, Ito, J. Jackson, Richard, JJ Taylor, Homer, Love, Foreman
J. Jefferson, McLaurin, Jeudy, T. Higgins, Cooks, Berrios, Byrd, Berrios, C. Johnson, T. Johnson, Foster, J. Smith, Ford, Harmon
Hooper, Herndon
2021 Picks: 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 4

Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up

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Re: Get Barkley? GOT BARKLEY

Postby sct » Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:04 pm

hoos89 wrote:
Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:54 pm
sct wrote:
Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:44 pm
I'd be more excited for you if I hadn't owned Barkley each of the last two seasons. To be fair, he was instrumental in my championship after doing without him all year last year. Having it happen again this year was too much to bear and I sold him for Miles Sanders and Boston Scott after shopping him to the whole league for a week that was the best I could get.
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Couldn’t do better. He’s got an injury rep now. Deserved.
12 team no limit keeper PPR
4patd, 6ruretd, 1/25 payd, 1/10 ruyd, 1ppr Start 1QB, 2RB,2WR,1Flex, 1TE,1k, 2idp
QB: Jackson, Bridgewater
RB: Cook, Drake, Sanders, Edmonds, Jackson(IR), Murray, Mattison, Scott, Hyde
WR: MT, Lockett, McLaurin, Moore, AB, Reynolds
TE: Andrews, Smith

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Re: Get Barkley? GOT BARKLEY

Postby LaDarius » Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:43 pm

sct wrote:
Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:44 pm
I'd be more excited for you if I hadn't owned Barkley each of the last two seasons. To be fair, he was instrumental in my championship after doing without him all year last year. Having it happen again this year was too much to bear and I sold him for Miles Sanders and Boston Scott after shopping him to the whole league for a week that was the best I could get.
Yikes...

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Re: Get Barkley? GOT BARKLEY

Postby hoos89 » Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:46 pm

sct wrote:
Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:04 pm
hoos89 wrote:
Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:54 pm
sct wrote:
Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:44 pm
I'd be more excited for you if I hadn't owned Barkley each of the last two seasons. To be fair, he was instrumental in my championship after doing without him all year last year. Having it happen again this year was too much to bear and I sold him for Miles Sanders and Boston Scott after shopping him to the whole league for a week that was the best I could get.
woof
Couldn’t do better. He’s got an injury rep now. Deserved.
I mean...you could have held him. He's had a total of 2 injuries? Also isn't Sanders hurt for the 2nd time this year? This is just a weird move.
Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
Rodgers, Tannehill, Wentz
Jacobs, Ekeler, Conner, Taylor, Gaskin, D. Harris, McKinnon, Richard, Ahmed
AJB, Moore, Aiyuk, Claypool, Slayton, MVS, Agholor, J. Gordon, James
Andrews, Herndon,
IR(3): Sutton, Michel, Love
Taxi(4): Tua, G. Davis, Bowden
2021 Picks: 1, 1, 1, 3, 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
Tannehill, Tua, Bridgewater
CEH, Ito, Barkley, Ito, J. Jackson, Richard, JJ Taylor, Homer, Love, Foreman
J. Jefferson, McLaurin, Jeudy, T. Higgins, Cooks, Berrios, Byrd, Berrios, C. Johnson, T. Johnson, Foster, J. Smith, Ford, Harmon
Hooper, Herndon
2021 Picks: 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 4

Team 1: 2012-2016
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Re: Get Barkley? GOT BARKLEY

Postby sct » Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:00 am

hoos89 wrote:
Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:46 pm
sct wrote:
Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:04 pm
hoos89 wrote:
Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:54 pm


woof
Couldn’t do better. He’s got an injury rep now. Deserved.
I mean...you could have held him. He's had a total of 2 injuries? Also isn't Sanders hurt for the 2nd time this year? This is just a weird move.
I did that last year. Yes, he ended up having two big weeks that sealed the deal for me. I'm in win now mode (look at my roster) despite insane injuries and theres a non-zero chance our league folds after this year. When he went down for the year again right from the start I wasn't going to sit on his 0 all year for the 2nd straight season. I felt that getting a top 10 back for a guy who has been able to produce 2 games in 2 years seemed like a good move. Plus, everyone acts like Saquon is CMC but he really isn't. look at his game logs when healthy over the past two years.
12 team no limit keeper PPR
4patd, 6ruretd, 1/25 payd, 1/10 ruyd, 1ppr Start 1QB, 2RB,2WR,1Flex, 1TE,1k, 2idp
QB: Jackson, Bridgewater
RB: Cook, Drake, Sanders, Edmonds, Jackson(IR), Murray, Mattison, Scott, Hyde
WR: MT, Lockett, McLaurin, Moore, AB, Reynolds
TE: Andrews, Smith

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Re: Get Barkley? GOT BARKLEY

Postby hoos89 » Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:22 am

"I did that last year and he literally won me a championship"...
I know he's not coming back but the talent is there. Sanders is arguably not even a top 10 RB while Barkley is STILL a top 5 RB even while hurt, and should be back to top 3 when healthy next year.

Barkley had 2,028 scrimmage yards, 91 receptions and 15 total touchdowns as a rookie playing for the Giants. 5.0 YPC. That is INSANE. CMC had 1,086 yards from scrimmage, 80 receptions, 7 TDs and 3.7 YPC as a rookie...not even close.

Barkley missed 3 games last year but obviously game back too soon and was playing hurt. Still averaged 111 yards from scrimmage for the season and was an absolute league winner in the fantasy playoffs with 30.3 and 43.9 point outings in the semis and finals, respectively. Oh and he still outscored Sanders who played all season and wasn't playing through a high ankle sprain for several games.

Also sure you're a contender but you didn't need to sell Barkley on the cheap. Guys like Gaskin, Gurley, Mike Davis, RoJo, Conner, and DJ could have been had much cheaper to fill in while Ekeler gets well or while Cook is out.
Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
Rodgers, Tannehill, Wentz
Jacobs, Ekeler, Conner, Taylor, Gaskin, D. Harris, McKinnon, Richard, Ahmed
AJB, Moore, Aiyuk, Claypool, Slayton, MVS, Agholor, J. Gordon, James
Andrews, Herndon,
IR(3): Sutton, Michel, Love
Taxi(4): Tua, G. Davis, Bowden
2021 Picks: 1, 1, 1, 3, 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
Tannehill, Tua, Bridgewater
CEH, Ito, Barkley, Ito, J. Jackson, Richard, JJ Taylor, Homer, Love, Foreman
J. Jefferson, McLaurin, Jeudy, T. Higgins, Cooks, Berrios, Byrd, Berrios, C. Johnson, T. Johnson, Foster, J. Smith, Ford, Harmon
Hooper, Herndon
2021 Picks: 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 4

Team 1: 2012-2016
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Re: Get Barkley? GOT BARKLEY

Postby sct » Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:29 am

hoos89 wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:22 am
"I did that last year and he literally won me a championship"...do you hear yourself? I know he's not coming back but the talent is there. Sanders is arguably not even a top 10 RB while Barkley is STILL a top 5 RB even while hurt, and should be back to top 3 when healthy next year.

Barkley had 2,028 scrimmage yards, 91 receptions and 15 total touchdowns as a rookie playing for the Giants. 5.0 YPC. That is INSANE. CMC had 1,086 yards from scrimmage, 80 receptions, 7 TDs and 3.7 YPC as a rookie...not even close.

Barkley missed 3 games last year but obviously game back too soon and was playing hurt. Still averaged 111 yards from scrimmage for the season and was an absolute league winner in the fantasy playoffs with 30.3 and 43.9 point outings in the semis and finals, respectively. Oh and he still outscored Sanders who played all season and wasn't playing through a high ankle sprain for several games.

Also sure you're a contender but you didn't need to sell Barkley on the cheap. Guys like Gaskin, Gurley, Mike Davis, RoJo, Conner, and DJ could have been had much cheaper to fill in while Ekeler gets well or while Cook is out.
Meh, that's just your opinion. I owned him during all those stats you just mentioned and when the rubber met the road I was ready to sell. There's zero guarantee he will return to top 5 let alone top 3 or ever be the same after two major injuries. When we he was lost for the year, I decided if I could get a top 10 rb for him I'd sell and I got one. Sure, Sanders got hurt too so that's part of my insanely bad luck but I would submit that a healthy Sanders would be top 10 right now.
12 team no limit keeper PPR
4patd, 6ruretd, 1/25 payd, 1/10 ruyd, 1ppr Start 1QB, 2RB,2WR,1Flex, 1TE,1k, 2idp
QB: Jackson, Bridgewater
RB: Cook, Drake, Sanders, Edmonds, Jackson(IR), Murray, Mattison, Scott, Hyde
WR: MT, Lockett, McLaurin, Moore, AB, Reynolds
TE: Andrews, Smith

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Re: Get Barkley? GOT BARKLEY

Postby hoos89 » Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:34 am

I had him in redraft last season. I know exactly what he was doing in those games and I remember wondering if I was right to trade for him. And then he won me the title. I traded MT for him right after the ACL in a rebuild and I'd do it again (although MT reinjuring himself and acting like a nutjob doesn't exactly make me feel worse about it).

Also a high ankle sprain is not a "major injury". Yeah it takes a while to recover from but it's not something that is a longer term concern. And I don't think the injury is hurting Sanders' value all that much...I just don't think he's a top 10 RB when healthy.
Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
Rodgers, Tannehill, Wentz
Jacobs, Ekeler, Conner, Taylor, Gaskin, D. Harris, McKinnon, Richard, Ahmed
AJB, Moore, Aiyuk, Claypool, Slayton, MVS, Agholor, J. Gordon, James
Andrews, Herndon,
IR(3): Sutton, Michel, Love
Taxi(4): Tua, G. Davis, Bowden
2021 Picks: 1, 1, 1, 3, 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
Tannehill, Tua, Bridgewater
CEH, Ito, Barkley, Ito, J. Jackson, Richard, JJ Taylor, Homer, Love, Foreman
J. Jefferson, McLaurin, Jeudy, T. Higgins, Cooks, Berrios, Byrd, Berrios, C. Johnson, T. Johnson, Foster, J. Smith, Ford, Harmon
Hooper, Herndon
2021 Picks: 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 4

Team 1: 2012-2016
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Re: Get Barkley? GOT BARKLEY

Postby sct » Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:40 am

hoos89 wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:34 am
I had him in redraft last season. I know exactly what he was doing in those games and I remember wondering if I was right to trade for him. And then he won me the title. I traded MT for him right after the ACL in a rebuild and I'd do it again (although MT reinjuring himself and acting like a nutjob doesn't exactly make me feel worse about it).

Also a high ankle sprain is not a "major injury". Yeah it takes a while to recover from but it's not something that is a longer term concern. And I don't think the injury is hurting Sanders' value all that much...I just don't think he's a top 10 RB when healthy.
Right, so we just disagree on our valuation of Barkley and Sanders. Movin' on.
12 team no limit keeper PPR
4patd, 6ruretd, 1/25 payd, 1/10 ruyd, 1ppr Start 1QB, 2RB,2WR,1Flex, 1TE,1k, 2idp
QB: Jackson, Bridgewater
RB: Cook, Drake, Sanders, Edmonds, Jackson(IR), Murray, Mattison, Scott, Hyde
WR: MT, Lockett, McLaurin, Moore, AB, Reynolds
TE: Andrews, Smith


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