Higgins for Sanders + 1st

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Higgins for Sanders + 1st

Postby NanceUSMC » Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:34 pm

Have an owner inquiring about Higgins from me... Right now, the offer is at Miles Sanders plus a late 1st (likely 8/9/10)...


On the surface, I'm tempted to do this, as my WR corps is young and fairly full of promise, and my RB corps is in shambles after the release of Leveon and Fournette... But, that could obviously change depending on where Bell and LF end up this offseason...

My hesitation is, of course, the same hesitation that we would all have... just how good will Higgins be? AJ Green in his prime good? or a WR 2-3 good?

And... What's the long term value of Sanders? RB1? RB2? Flex?

Anybody have a working crystal ball I could use? My Magic 8 Ball says "My Sources Say No"... so, there's that...

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10 team Non-PPR (1QB, 2RB, 3WR/TE, 1K, 1Def), full keeper, 25 man roster, established 2013

QB: Newton, Tannehill, Tua, Foles, Lock
RB: CEH, Swift, Bell, Fournette, L Murray
WR: Jones, Watkins, Hopkins, Parker, Fuller, Harry, D Johnson, D Samuel, P Williams, Higgins, Chark
K: Butker
Def: Baltimore, Carolina

Championships: 2015, 2017

2014: 1.01 (Became Watkins)
2015: 1.03, 1.04, 3.04 (Became Gurley, Yeldon, CAP, Robinson UDFA)
2016: 1.10 (Became Fuller)
2017: 1.01, 3.07 (Became Fournette, Henderson)
2018: 2.10 (Became Chark)
2019: 1.04 (Became Harry, Samuel, Williams, Isabella, Johnson)
2020: 1.01, 1.05, 2.01, 3.01 (Became CEH, Swift, Tua, Higgins)

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Re: Higgins for Sanders + 1st

Postby logan_roy » Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:40 pm

That is fantastic value for Higgins in my opinion. I think this is a smash accept. Also, Higgins is a beast but Tyler Boyd is also a beast and is under contract until 2023.

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Re: Higgins for Sanders + 1st

Postby murphysxm » Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:42 pm

My sources say this is a value trade that also meets a team need. Miles has just as much of a chance as Higgins to be a long term + asset, plus you get a #1 pick? You are thinking too hard on this one.

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Re: Higgins for Sanders + 1st

Postby Ruggenater » Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:44 pm

This is great value right now. The majority probably has Sanders over Higgins, so the 1st on top makes it a no brainer.
12 Team Superflex - PPR, 0.25 PPC - QB/2RB/3WR/TE/Flex/Superflex
QB: L Jackson, Rodgers, Tannehill, Bridgewater, Love, Dalton
RB: Dobbins, Sanders, Montgomery, Michel, Dillon, Mattison, Hubbard
WR: Hopkins, Evans, A Robinson, Lockett, McLaurin, DeVonta, Reagor, Eskridge
TE: Kelce, Gesicki, J Smith, I Smith

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Re: Higgins for Sanders + 1st

Postby burntfire » Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:44 pm

Smash accept.
14 Team Super Flex, 1 PPR
QB, 3WR, 2RB, 1TE, 1 Flex, 1 SFlex, 3 IR

QB: Matt Ryan, Sam Darnold, Mitchell Trubisky, Jake Luton
WR: Chris Godwin, A.J Brown, D.K. Metcalf, Jerry Jeudy, Will Fuller, Jalen Reagor, Allen Lazard, Travis Fulgham
RB: Kareem Hunt, Josh Jacobs, Ronald Jones, Marlon Mack, Joshua Kelley, Boston Scott, Deejay Dallas
TE: Robert Tonyan, Dissley, David Njoku, Jace Sternberger, Drew Sample, Gerald Everett

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Re: Higgins for Sanders + 1st

Postby never_punts » Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:51 pm

I can talk myself into both sides of 95% of trade, but NOT this one. SMASH accept for the Sanders side.
Team #1: 12-Team - PPR - *SF* - 4pt Pass - IDP
25 Roster + 5 Taxi | QB, RB, 2-WR, TE, SFLX, 3-FLX | DL, LB, DB
The Moore the Murray-er (0-0)
QB: R.Wilson - Murray - Tannehill
RB: Chubb - Monty - D.Harris - Hines - Cohen - C.Evans
WR: Ridley - Woods - AJB - DJM - Chark - Sutton - C.Davis - Hardman - Campbell
TE: Kelce - Kittle - Goedert
DL: Bosa | LB: White | DB: Chinn
2022 Picks: mid-1st, late-1st, 2nd, 3rd

Team #2: 12-Team - PPR - *SF* - 6pt Pass - TE Prem
25 Roster + 5 Taxi | QB, RB, 2-WR, TE, SFLX, 3-FLX
Fresh Prince of Helaire (0-0)
QB: Murray - Allen - Wentz - Winston - Dalton
RB: Cook - CEH - Mattison - Mack - DJD - Gus
WR: Chark - Tyreek - Lockett - Sutton - Kirk - Hardman - Parker - Mims - Edwards - DPJ - G.Davis
TE: Fant - Bryant - Herndon
2022 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd

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Re: Higgins for Sanders + 1st

Postby Gator Sens » Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:55 pm

The value is certainly there. Comes down to if you think Sanders can stay healthy as a workhorse. I would not make this deal, but I'm low on Sanders and high on Higgins. But again, the value is 100% there.

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Re: Higgins for Sanders + 1st

Postby jomaed » Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:56 pm

Sanders > Higgins. Hopefully the other owner hasn't changed his mind while you came here to post.

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Re: Higgins for Sanders + 1st

Postby hoos89 » Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:05 pm

Gator Sens wrote:
Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:55 pm
The value is certainly there. Comes down to if you think Sanders can stay healthy as a workhorse. I would not make this deal, but I'm low on Sanders and high on Higgins. But again, the value is 100% there.
This is a massively plus value and even if you don't like Sanders, it shouldn't be hard to flip either Sanders or Sanders + 1st for someone you prefer to Higgins unless you already have Higgins as like a top 10 dynasty value somehow.
Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up


Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2020 Runner-up
Rodgers, Wentz, M. Jones
Taylor, Chubb, Ekeler, J. Williams, M. Carter, D. Harris, Gaskin, Conner, Michel, McKinnon, Ahmed
AJB, Chase, DJM, Aiyuk, Claypool, Slayton, A. St. Brown, MVS, Agholor, Palmer
Andrews, Herndon
IR(3):
Taxi(4): Tua, G. Davis, Bowden
2022 Picks: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
Tannehill, Z. Wilson, Tua, Bridgewater, Mariota, Eason
Barkley, CEH, Etienne, J. Jackson, Bowden, Homer, Love
J. Jefferson, Metcalf, Evans, McLaurin, Thielen, Cooks, Jeudy, Waddle, R. Moore, Berrios, Foster, Hansen, Harmon, C. Johnson, T. Johnson
Kelce, Herndon
2022 Picks: 2, 3

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Re: Higgins for Sanders + 1st

Postby jwb32 » Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:19 pm

Wow. Sanders alone >> Higgins. Hope you already pulled the trigger.
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar
RBs- Cook, Sanders, CEH, Michel,Murray,Mattison,LPerine
WRs- Diggs, McLaurin, Golladay, Cooks, OBJ, Reagor,MWill, Crowder,Mooney,Dyami, Wallace,Schwartz
TEs-Waller, Fant

TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 1Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Ryan,Watson,Darnold
RBs- Akers,Javonte,ETN,Gaskin,Hawkins, Kelley
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae, Mooney, GDavis,Collins,Atwell,Harry,Van Jefferson
TEs- Hock,Trautman,Bryant,AlbertO
2022 1st (2)

TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Darnold
RBs- JT, Gaskin, RoJo, DHarris, Penny, Murray, Snell
WRs- Allen, DJM, Julio, Chase , Bateman, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Trautman
2022 1st, 2nd (2), 3rd (2)

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Re: Higgins for Sanders + 1st

Postby jjleurquin » Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:23 pm

I'm low on Sanders, still this is a smash accept.

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Re: Higgins for Sanders + 1st

Postby NanceUSMC » Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:28 pm

LOL, I'm seeing a pattern here

Sounds like I'm overthinking this one!
10 team Non-PPR (1QB, 2RB, 3WR/TE, 1K, 1Def), full keeper, 25 man roster, established 2013

QB: Newton, Tannehill, Tua, Foles, Lock
RB: CEH, Swift, Bell, Fournette, L Murray
WR: Jones, Watkins, Hopkins, Parker, Fuller, Harry, D Johnson, D Samuel, P Williams, Higgins, Chark
K: Butker
Def: Baltimore, Carolina

Championships: 2015, 2017

2014: 1.01 (Became Watkins)
2015: 1.03, 1.04, 3.04 (Became Gurley, Yeldon, CAP, Robinson UDFA)
2016: 1.10 (Became Fuller)
2017: 1.01, 3.07 (Became Fournette, Henderson)
2018: 2.10 (Became Chark)
2019: 1.04 (Became Harry, Samuel, Williams, Isabella, Johnson)
2020: 1.01, 1.05, 2.01, 3.01 (Became CEH, Swift, Tua, Higgins)

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Re: Higgins for Sanders + 1st

Postby burntfire » Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:00 pm

NanceUSMC wrote:
Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:28 pm
LOL, I'm seeing a pattern here

Sounds like I'm overthinking this one!
It happens. It's a lot easier to give advise because it's not our team than when it's actually yours.
14 Team Super Flex, 1 PPR
QB, 3WR, 2RB, 1TE, 1 Flex, 1 SFlex, 3 IR

QB: Matt Ryan, Sam Darnold, Mitchell Trubisky, Jake Luton
WR: Chris Godwin, A.J Brown, D.K. Metcalf, Jerry Jeudy, Will Fuller, Jalen Reagor, Allen Lazard, Travis Fulgham
RB: Kareem Hunt, Josh Jacobs, Ronald Jones, Marlon Mack, Joshua Kelley, Boston Scott, Deejay Dallas
TE: Robert Tonyan, Dissley, David Njoku, Jace Sternberger, Drew Sample, Gerald Everett

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Re: Higgins for Sanders + 1st

Postby saw061600 » Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:49 pm

Piling on Sanders
10 TM No PPR or waiver 85RST
Herbert JimmyG Dalton Winston
Barkley Chubb JT RoJo Sony Bell
Evans ARob Aiyuk Dionte Jeudy Boyd OBJ GDavis MWill
Kelce Andrews Jonnu Hooper
Watt Williams Richardson Taylor Graham
Kendricks DCampbell DJones Baker Kiser Brooks
Adams Simmons Vaccaro Joseph

12 TM .5ppr 45 RST
Dak Herbert
JT JRob Carson Henderson Penny DEvans Duke
DK Godwin ARob Golladay Boyd Cooks Thielen Shepard BEdwards DGabriel RMoore Dyami
Kelce Tonyan
Hunter Barnett Clark Crosby G-Matur
Kendricks Warner Perryman Milano Campbell Baker Jack
Budda Neal Clark Karl

1-2QB 2-4RB 3-5WR 1-3TE 11OFF/DEF
Herbert Murray Stafford Trask
Taylor Jacobs Gaskin Hines Penny Mack
Ridley Jefferson Diggs Golladay JuJu Landry RMoore DBrown Chark Boyd Tutu
Kittle Kelce Freiermuth
Gholston Fowler Barnett Lawson Kinlaw Omin Rousseau
Queen Thompson Jewell Kwon Kyzir
Peppers Fitz Clark Sorensen KJoseph

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Re: Higgins for Sanders + 1st

Postby ManuManu » Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:26 pm

Congrats on the robbery.
Team 1, 10-team 0.5-PPR
QB (1): Wentz, Cam, Tannehill
RB (2-3): Swift, Dobbins, D. Harris, David Johnson, K. Johnson, D. Evans, J. Hasty
WR (3-4): Hill, A-Rob, Diggs, Fuller, Reagor, Aiyuk, V. Jefferson, Isabella, P. Williams, Perriman
TE (1-2): Tonyan, J. Smith, Hurst, Everett


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