A guy in my league who has Newton, Garoppolo, and Winston as his QBs approached me just now asking if I would trade Wentz for his 2021 2nd rd pick.
With Wentz's value being as low as its ever been and in my opinion as low as it will go anytime in the next few years since all of his weapons are currently hurt and he has been playing better of late, I countered asking if he would do his 2021 1st rd pick for Wentz and my 2021 2nd rd pick.
He countered back saying he would do Herbert and my 2021 2nd rd pick for his 2021 1st rd pick.
A few details, it is a 1 QB league, I already have Mahomes (see signature below), I currently have two 2021 2nd rd picks and my 2nd rd pick will likely be a late 2nd as I'm now 7-0 this season, and the guy's 2021 1st rd pick will likely be a top 4 pick or at absolute worst top 6 pick.
Is this an easy accept?
Herbert Trade
Herbert Trade
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2017 - Champions!
2018 - Champions!!
2021 - Champions!!!
Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 K, and 1 DST – 12 team .5 PPR league – 24 man active roster + 2 IR
Roster:
QB: Mahomes, Stroud
RB: Bijan, Javonte Williams, James Cook, Charbonnet, Brian Robinson, Kyren Williams, Dobbins, Keaton Mitchell, Israel Abanikanda
WR: Chase, Amon-Ra St. Brown, Higgins, Diontae Johnson, Dotson, Marquise Brown, Quentin Johnston, Sutton
TE: Hockenson, Freiermuth, Ferguson
K: Aubrey
D: Pittsburgh, Denver
Draft Picks:
2024: 1st / 2nd / 3rd / 4th
2025: 1st / 2nd / 3rd / 4th
2026: 1st / 2nd / 3rd / 4th
2018 - Champions!!
2021 - Champions!!!
Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 K, and 1 DST – 12 team .5 PPR league – 24 man active roster + 2 IR
Roster:
QB: Mahomes, Stroud
RB: Bijan, Javonte Williams, James Cook, Charbonnet, Brian Robinson, Kyren Williams, Dobbins, Keaton Mitchell, Israel Abanikanda
WR: Chase, Amon-Ra St. Brown, Higgins, Diontae Johnson, Dotson, Marquise Brown, Quentin Johnston, Sutton
TE: Hockenson, Freiermuth, Ferguson
K: Aubrey
D: Pittsburgh, Denver
Draft Picks:
2024: 1st / 2nd / 3rd / 4th
2025: 1st / 2nd / 3rd / 4th
2026: 1st / 2nd / 3rd / 4th
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Re: Herbert Trade
Take the early 1st all things considered.
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Re: Herbert Trade
He just went for Evans and a 2nd in my 1 qb league. However qbs are valued like it's SF.
Value is on the pick side imo. If you believe in herbert I'd consider holding though over drafting a new qb next year.
Value is on the pick side imo. If you believe in herbert I'd consider holding though over drafting a new qb next year.
Est '17 12 Team 1PPR 4-Pass 6-Rush/Recieve TD
Start QB RB RB WR WR TE FX FX SF K DL LB DB
Champion 2021.
Geno, Tlaw, M Jones, D.Carr, White
JT, A Jones, Dobbins,Monty,D.Harris, Reyonds
Dillon,Kelley, Warren, Miller, Hill, Penny, Rivers
Diggs, AJB, Jefferson, Chase, Claypool, Juedy, Deebo,WanDale, Mingo, Boutte
Kittle, Andrews,Njoku
Moody
Superflex Est 19' - - Tiered PPR
QB RB RB WR WR WR/RB TE FX SF K D
Dak, Wilson, Watson
Henry, Chubb, ETN, Swift, Gus, Strong, Ford, Spiller, Chandler, Spears
Godwin, DJM , JJ,Kenaan, AJB, Lockett, Austin, Palmer, Boutte
Andrews, Goedert, Juwan, Woods
Start QB RB RB WR WR TE FX FX SF K DL LB DB
Champion 2021.
Geno, Tlaw, M Jones, D.Carr, White
JT, A Jones, Dobbins,Monty,D.Harris, Reyonds
Dillon,Kelley, Warren, Miller, Hill, Penny, Rivers
Diggs, AJB, Jefferson, Chase, Claypool, Juedy, Deebo,WanDale, Mingo, Boutte
Kittle, Andrews,Njoku
Moody
Superflex Est 19' - - Tiered PPR
QB RB RB WR WR WR/RB TE FX SF K D
Dak, Wilson, Watson
Henry, Chubb, ETN, Swift, Gus, Strong, Ford, Spiller, Chandler, Spears
Godwin, DJM , JJ,Kenaan, AJB, Lockett, Austin, Palmer, Boutte
Andrews, Goedert, Juwan, Woods
Re: Herbert Trade
I’d take the pick, sounds like if will be early and you are set with Mahomes
10Team PPR-QB/RB/WR/WR/TE/PK/flex-DT/DE/DE/LB/LB/LB/CB/CB/S/S/flex
QB- Herbert, Tua
RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, QWilliams,
DE- Hunter, JBosa, Thibodeaux, JPHillips, Rousseau, Paye, Greenard
LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
S- Dugger, Pitre, Thompson
IR Dobbins, Dulcich
Taxi- Kincaid, QJohnston
QB- Herbert, Tua
RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, QWilliams,
DE- Hunter, JBosa, Thibodeaux, JPHillips, Rousseau, Paye, Greenard
LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
S- Dugger, Pitre, Thompson
IR Dobbins, Dulcich
Taxi- Kincaid, QJohnston
Re: Herbert Trade
I got Herbert for Gaskin... I like Herbert long term, but he would very rarely start for you... I think the 1st is the call.
Beer 2.0
2020 CHAMPIONS!!!
(12 team Dynasty - 2 FLEX - 1PPR, 1 Points Per 25 passing yards, 2 points per 25 receiving yards, 1 Points Per 10 rushing yards)
QB (2 min/start 1) - Justin Herbert, Dak Prescott, Trey Lance
RB (3 min/start 2) - Jonathan Taylor, D'Andre Swift, Joe Mixon, J.K Dobbins, Damien Harris, Marlon Mack
WR (3 min/start 2) - Chris Godwin, Justin Jefferson, CeeDee Lamb, Jerry Jeudy, Jalen Reagor, Courtland Sutton, Will Fuller V, Dyami Brown
TE (2 min/start 1) - Mike Gesicki, Cole Kmet
DEF (2 req/start 1) - Cleveland Browns, Carolina Panthers
K (2 min/start 1) - Younghoe Koo, Josh Lambo
2020 CHAMPIONS!!!
(12 team Dynasty - 2 FLEX - 1PPR, 1 Points Per 25 passing yards, 2 points per 25 receiving yards, 1 Points Per 10 rushing yards)
QB (2 min/start 1) - Justin Herbert, Dak Prescott, Trey Lance
RB (3 min/start 2) - Jonathan Taylor, D'Andre Swift, Joe Mixon, J.K Dobbins, Damien Harris, Marlon Mack
WR (3 min/start 2) - Chris Godwin, Justin Jefferson, CeeDee Lamb, Jerry Jeudy, Jalen Reagor, Courtland Sutton, Will Fuller V, Dyami Brown
TE (2 min/start 1) - Mike Gesicki, Cole Kmet
DEF (2 req/start 1) - Cleveland Browns, Carolina Panthers
K (2 min/start 1) - Younghoe Koo, Josh Lambo
Re: Herbert Trade
Top 6 pick vs Herbert and pick 2.10, I take the top 6 pick easy in a 1QB league.
12 Team Dynasty, (SF) (2pt/c TE Prem)
QB - Wentz, Heinicke, Big Ben, Fitz, Tyrod, Rudolph
RB - Henry, Kamara, CMC, R. Jones, D. Felton, P. Lindsay
WR - Ridley, Pittman, Cooks, M. Williams, MT, AJG, R. Higgins, Perriman, Shi Smith, MVS
TE - Gesicki, Engram, Uzomah, Hurst, Manhertz, Farrell
2022: 1,2,3,4
QB - Wentz, Heinicke, Big Ben, Fitz, Tyrod, Rudolph
RB - Henry, Kamara, CMC, R. Jones, D. Felton, P. Lindsay
WR - Ridley, Pittman, Cooks, M. Williams, MT, AJG, R. Higgins, Perriman, Shi Smith, MVS
TE - Gesicki, Engram, Uzomah, Hurst, Manhertz, Farrell
2022: 1,2,3,4
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Re: Herbert Trade
Herbert is looking like a top-5 dyno QB already, but - there will likely be regression next year, and if there's a top 4 pick coming back, I probably take it due to position scarcity. I don't see this as a smash accept tho.
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
/
TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
/
TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
LAPORTA
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
LAPORTA
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Re: Herbert Trade
Considering you have Mahomes this is a smash accept. Take the likely early 2021 first.
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Re: Herbert Trade
I'll take the pick considering all context
Team #1: 12-Team - PPR - *SF* - 4pt Pass - IDP
25 Roster + 5 Taxi | QB, RB, 2-WR, TE, SFLX, 3-FLX | DL, LB, DB
The Moore the Murray-er (2022 Champ )
QB: Burrow - Lamar - Kyler
RB: Ekeler - Saquon - Gainwell
WR: Amon Ra - Hopkins - Godwin - K.Allen- QJ - Hollywood - Diontae - Shaheed- Wandale - Woods
TE: Kelce - Engram - Ferg - Chig
DL: Hunter | LB: Okereke | DB: Bynum
'24 Picks: Late 1st, Early 2nd, Late 2nd
Team #2: 12-Team - PPR - *SF* - 6pt Pass - TE Prem
25 Roster + 5 Taxi | QB, RB, 2-WR, TE, SFLX, 3-FLX
Team #2 (0-0)
QB: Murray - Allen - Winston
RB: Cook - Saquon - Mattison - Hull
WR: Diontae - Tyreek - Lockett - Higgins - Chark - TMJ - Kirk - Dell
TE: Ertz - Engram - Mayer
'24 Picks: My 1st, 2nd, and 3rd
25 Roster + 5 Taxi | QB, RB, 2-WR, TE, SFLX, 3-FLX | DL, LB, DB
The Moore the Murray-er (2022 Champ )
QB: Burrow - Lamar - Kyler
RB: Ekeler - Saquon - Gainwell
WR: Amon Ra - Hopkins - Godwin - K.Allen- QJ - Hollywood - Diontae - Shaheed- Wandale - Woods
TE: Kelce - Engram - Ferg - Chig
DL: Hunter | LB: Okereke | DB: Bynum
'24 Picks: Late 1st, Early 2nd, Late 2nd
Team #2: 12-Team - PPR - *SF* - 6pt Pass - TE Prem
25 Roster + 5 Taxi | QB, RB, 2-WR, TE, SFLX, 3-FLX
Team #2 (0-0)
QB: Murray - Allen - Winston
RB: Cook - Saquon - Mattison - Hull
WR: Diontae - Tyreek - Lockett - Higgins - Chark - TMJ - Kirk - Dell
TE: Ertz - Engram - Mayer
'24 Picks: My 1st, 2nd, and 3rd
Re: Herbert Trade
Let's see a back up qb and a 2nd for a early first, accept this deal now. You still have Wentz to play once a year (hopefully) for you.
2015, 2017, 2022 Champ.
10 team, 6 pt all td, ppr, 1.5 te ppr. 30 man roster QB, SF, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, Flex (r/w/t), K, 3 IDP
Qb- Mahomes, Prudy, Baker
RB- S Barkley, Pollard, B Hall, K Herbert, D Foreman, R Johnson, Zeke, J Robinson, Z White, J Wilson(i.r.), J McKinnon, J Mason, J Hill
WR- J Jefferson, Deebo, DJ Moore, OBJ, S Moore, J Jennings, C Austin, Trey Palmer
TE- Andrews, Higbee, Dulchich, Ferguson, D Washington
IDP(3)- P Queen,D Perryman, J Jewell, J Campbell, N Dean (i.r.)
K- E McPherson, Butker
draft picks
2024- 2, 4, 5
2025- 3, 3, 4, 5
10 team, 6 pt all td, ppr, 1.5 te ppr. 30 man roster QB, SF, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, Flex (r/w/t), K, 3 IDP
Qb- Mahomes, Prudy, Baker
RB- S Barkley, Pollard, B Hall, K Herbert, D Foreman, R Johnson, Zeke, J Robinson, Z White, J Wilson(i.r.), J McKinnon, J Mason, J Hill
WR- J Jefferson, Deebo, DJ Moore, OBJ, S Moore, J Jennings, C Austin, Trey Palmer
TE- Andrews, Higbee, Dulchich, Ferguson, D Washington
IDP(3)- P Queen,D Perryman, J Jewell, J Campbell, N Dean (i.r.)
K- E McPherson, Butker
draft picks
2024- 2, 4, 5
2025- 3, 3, 4, 5
Re: Herbert Trade
Thanks for the all the feedback guys, much appreciated. I am going to accept this trade as soon as the league allows trades to be processed (tomorrow) as all players are currently locked for week 7.
I think the two things I am most excited about in this trade are the following:
1. I basically turned Ian Thomas, Jordan Howard, and a 2021 4th rd pick into a top 6 (though most likely top 4) pick in 2021. I traded Ian Thomas (who I probably was going to have to cut come our roster cutdowns anyway) during our draft for the 4.10 pick where I was then able to draft Herbert (was shocked he was still on the board then).
Then right after the draft I traded Jordan Howard and my 4th rd pick for another guys 2021 2nd rd pick. I then took Herbert and that 2021 2nd rd pick in this deal to get this 2021 1st round pick.
2. One of my main objectives going forward over the next few years starting this year is to load up on as many young RB's as possible since I feel I am in good shape with my deep WR group and also at QB where I have the #1 guy in Mahomes and a solid #2 in Wentz.
I started this year by drafting CEH and Dobbins (followed it up with getting Higgins and Claypool to add to my WR depth) and I hope with this high 2021 pick I am now receiving in the trade that I can hopefully get one of the top 3 or so RB's coming out in 2021.
I will also have my own 2021 1st rd pick which will likely be somewhere between 9-12 so depending how things play out I could always snag a 2nd RB in the back half of 1st round or take best remaining WR or TE.
I think the two things I am most excited about in this trade are the following:
1. I basically turned Ian Thomas, Jordan Howard, and a 2021 4th rd pick into a top 6 (though most likely top 4) pick in 2021. I traded Ian Thomas (who I probably was going to have to cut come our roster cutdowns anyway) during our draft for the 4.10 pick where I was then able to draft Herbert (was shocked he was still on the board then).
Then right after the draft I traded Jordan Howard and my 4th rd pick for another guys 2021 2nd rd pick. I then took Herbert and that 2021 2nd rd pick in this deal to get this 2021 1st round pick.
2. One of my main objectives going forward over the next few years starting this year is to load up on as many young RB's as possible since I feel I am in good shape with my deep WR group and also at QB where I have the #1 guy in Mahomes and a solid #2 in Wentz.
I started this year by drafting CEH and Dobbins (followed it up with getting Higgins and Claypool to add to my WR depth) and I hope with this high 2021 pick I am now receiving in the trade that I can hopefully get one of the top 3 or so RB's coming out in 2021.
I will also have my own 2021 1st rd pick which will likely be somewhere between 9-12 so depending how things play out I could always snag a 2nd RB in the back half of 1st round or take best remaining WR or TE.
2017 - Champions!
2018 - Champions!!
2021 - Champions!!!
Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 K, and 1 DST – 12 team .5 PPR league – 24 man active roster + 2 IR
Roster:
QB: Mahomes, Stroud
RB: Bijan, Javonte Williams, James Cook, Charbonnet, Brian Robinson, Kyren Williams, Dobbins, Keaton Mitchell, Israel Abanikanda
WR: Chase, Amon-Ra St. Brown, Higgins, Diontae Johnson, Dotson, Marquise Brown, Quentin Johnston, Sutton
TE: Hockenson, Freiermuth, Ferguson
K: Aubrey
D: Pittsburgh, Denver
Draft Picks:
2024: 1st / 2nd / 3rd / 4th
2025: 1st / 2nd / 3rd / 4th
2026: 1st / 2nd / 3rd / 4th
2018 - Champions!!
2021 - Champions!!!
Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 K, and 1 DST – 12 team .5 PPR league – 24 man active roster + 2 IR
Roster:
QB: Mahomes, Stroud
RB: Bijan, Javonte Williams, James Cook, Charbonnet, Brian Robinson, Kyren Williams, Dobbins, Keaton Mitchell, Israel Abanikanda
WR: Chase, Amon-Ra St. Brown, Higgins, Diontae Johnson, Dotson, Marquise Brown, Quentin Johnston, Sutton
TE: Hockenson, Freiermuth, Ferguson
K: Aubrey
D: Pittsburgh, Denver
Draft Picks:
2024: 1st / 2nd / 3rd / 4th
2025: 1st / 2nd / 3rd / 4th
2026: 1st / 2nd / 3rd / 4th
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