Team in sig. Got an offer for the 2nd I own (not mine, prob be late or mid at best) for Ingram. As the Dobbins owner, does this make sense? Even healthy this season, Ingram's production is way down but so is the overall efficiency of their offense.
For reference, in 2019, the Ravens were ranked 2nd in total yards (407.6) per game and 1st in rushing yards (206.0) per game. Six weeks into the 2020 season, we have seen those numbers decline by 16.0% and 20.6%.
Dobbins however isn't getting much work yet either, which was to be expected. Tried offering a 3rd instead but he said he'd rather keep Ingram as depth in that instance.
Worth making this move? It would leave me with only 4x 3rds, a 4th and a 5th in the '21 draft.
Send a 2nd for Ingram?
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Re: Send a 2nd for Ingram?
Pass for me.
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Re: Send a 2nd for Ingram?
I don't think Ingram helps your RB room enough to make this deal. Roll with what you have and hold the pick.
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Re: Send a 2nd for Ingram?
I don't think Ingram is a massive week-to-week upgrade for your lineup so I'd pass. Maybe offer that same 2nd to the Robinson owner and see where that goes.
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Re: Send a 2nd for Ingram?
I would only send a 3rd for Ingram. Even if Dobbins were out, he'd still, at best, be in a 33/33/33 carry timeshare with Gus Edwards and Lamar
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Re: Send a 2nd for Ingram?
2nd too rich for Ingram
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Re: Send a 2nd for Ingram?
I’d give an early 3rd for Ingram
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Re: Send a 2nd for Ingram?
Appreciate the feedback. It’s a stalemate now so I’ll just hold JK and see if he drops the offer
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WR: Aiyuk, DK, Puka, Doubs, Dotson, Renfrow, D. Douglas
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RB: CMC, Ekeler, Kamara, A. Jones, Spears, Miller
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TE: Kelce, Turner
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RB: Walker, Aaron Jones, Ford, Patterson, Spiller
WR: Aiyuk, DK, Puka, Doubs, Dotson, Renfrow, D. Douglas
TE: Kincaid, Thomas
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2026: 1st, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th
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Re: Send a 2nd for Ingram?
I'd pass, there's too many mouths to feed in BAL, Ingram is not the youngest back, and is hurt. no thanks.
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