Juju Price Check

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Juju Price Check

Postby MyTeam » Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:58 am

What is are new price on Juju?

Would you send a late first in a rebuild and hope he walks this offseason? Is that too much? Too light?

What about comparing him to players? Is he still valued above guys like Boyd, Chark, Hollywood, Kupp?

Thinking of offering 2 late firsts (two highest PPG in league) and Hamler for Boyd and Juju in team 2 but I don't know if I want to be disappointed by Juju in 2 leagues.
Team 1: 12 team, PPR
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex

Mahomes, Lawrence
Najee, Swift, Javonte, Jamaal W, Murray
DK, DJM, Juju, Jameson, Gallup, Van
Pitts, Friermuth
1.01, 1.04, 1.11, 1.12, 3.10, 2 firsts next year

Team 2: 12 Team, SF TEP (1.5 PPR)
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex, 1 SF

Mahomes, Burrow, Cousins, Rudolph
CEH, Swift, Gibson, Jacobs, Mattison, Scott, McFarland
DK, AJB, Ridley, McLaurin, Kupp, Landry, Mims, Hamler, Miller, Johnson, Robinson
Andrews, H. Henry, Sternberger, Alie-Cox, Herndon

Same as Team 2
Watson, Burrow, Lance, Z. Wilson
Pollard, Mattison
Chase, D. Smith, Boyd, Hardman, E. Moore, Cephus, A. Rodgers, Harry, Boykin, A. Tate, Miller
Hockenson, Thomas, Albert O, Njoku
3 additional firsts

Same as Team 2
TLaw, Burrow, Watson, Darnold
CEH, Gus, Cohen
Juju, Chark, Shenault, Boyd, Landry, Renfrow, Robinson,
Engram, Kmet, Firkser, Schultz, Arnold, Herndon
5 additional firsts

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Re: Juju Price Check

Postby abloom » Mon Oct 19, 2020 8:16 am

I think a late first is a little light, but its entirely possible someone would jump on that.

A quick plug for DLF's membership for a second:
The Trade Finder that they have is a really great tool: https://apps.dynastyleaguefootball.com/tradedb/
It scours the MFL trades and displays recent trades involving specific player and allows you to filter results if desired. I like to use it just to get an idea of what certain players i'm either looking to get rid of or acquire are going for. One of the reasons I have a DLF membership.

A couple recent trades (1PPR):
OBJ for Juju and at 2023 2nd
JUJU and Rivers (Superflex) for NKeal Harry, 2021 1st, 2021 2nd
JUJU for Akers and Mims

So looking at those, I think he's probably being valued around a late 2021 1st, maybe a little higher.

I think if you're talking about a rebuild you're mainly considering the trade for any type of value increase next year. Its going to be highly dependent on where he ends up going, since i think we are all pretty sure he won't be in PIT next year. I think for him to be successful he needs to be somewhere that utilizes the slot receiver and has a solid outside receiver (even a #1 WR) to draw coverage away from him (a la Antonio Brown). I don't really want him going anywhere where he is asked to be the WR#1 on his team.

The good thing is that he is young. I'm pretty sure he will be 24 in December if I remember correctly, so 24 at the start of next season. Still plenty of years ahead of him if he can get back into a good system for him.
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01

Team #5 4th
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009

Team #6 orphan
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Re: Juju Price Check

Postby Gator Sens » Mon Oct 19, 2020 8:21 am

abloom wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 8:16 am I think a late first is a little light, but its entirely possible someone would jump on that.

A quick plug for DLF's membership for a second:
The Trade Finder that they have is a really great tool: https://apps.dynastyleaguefootball.com/tradedb/
It scours the MFL trades and displays recent trades involving specific player and allows you to filter results if desired. I like to use it just to get an idea of what certain players i'm either looking to get rid of or acquire are going for. One of the reasons I have a DLF membership.

A couple recent trades (1PPR):
OBJ for Juju and at 2023 2nd
JUJU and Rivers (Superflex) for NKeal Harry, 2021 1st, 2021 2nd
JUJU for Akers and Mims

So looking at those, I think he's probably being valued around a late 2021 1st, maybe a little higher.

I think if you're talking about a rebuild you're mainly considering the trade for any type of value increase next year. Its going to be highly dependent on where he ends up going, since i think we are all pretty sure he won't be in PIT next year. I think for him to be successful he needs to be somewhere that utilizes the slot receiver and has a solid outside receiver (even a #1 WR) to draw coverage away from him (a la Antonio Brown). I don't really want him going anywhere where he is asked to be the WR#1 on his team.

The good thing is that he is young. I'm pretty sure he will be 24 in December if I remember correctly, so 24 at the start of next season. Still plenty of years ahead of him if he can get back into a good system for him.

Good stuff here. I personally would still pay a mid 1st for JuJu for long term hope. I think he is still a solid asset, but his start to this year combined with his injury plagued 2019 are a bit concerning. If a were selling JuJu, I would need an early 1st+. I just don't think it's time to panic sell him, but in the same breathe, I would happily buy low or for a decent price.

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Re: Juju Price Check

Postby never_punts » Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:13 am

FWIW, someone just bought JuJu + early 2nd from me for essentially the price of Calvin Ridley

Certainly not an offer I would have taken in the off-season, so my valuation on JuJu personally has certainly dropped. I think you'll find that owners now are willing to sell at a bit of a 'discount' compared to what they probably paid for him
Team #1: 12-Team - PPR - *SF* - 4pt Pass - IDP
25 Roster + 5 Taxi | QB, RB, 2-WR, TE, SFLX, 3-FLX | DL, LB, DB
The Moore the Murray-er (2022 Champ 8-) )
QB: Burrow - Lamar - Kyler
RB: Ekeler - Saquon - Gainwell
WR: Amon Ra - Hopkins - Godwin - K.Allen- QJ - Hollywood - Diontae - Shaheed- Wandale - Woods
TE: Kelce - Engram - Ferg - Chig
DL: Hunter | LB: Okereke | DB: Bynum
'24 Picks: Late 1st, Early 2nd, Late 2nd

Team #2: 12-Team - PPR - *SF* - 6pt Pass - TE Prem
25 Roster + 5 Taxi | QB, RB, 2-WR, TE, SFLX, 3-FLX
Team #2 (0-0)
QB: Murray - Allen - Winston
RB: Cook - Saquon - Mattison - Hull
WR: Diontae - Tyreek - Lockett - Higgins - Chark - TMJ - Kirk - Dell
TE: Ertz - Engram - Mayer
'24 Picks: My 1st, 2nd, and 3rd

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Re: Juju Price Check

Postby hoos89 » Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:23 am

never_punts wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:13 am FWIW, someone just bought JuJu + early 2nd from me for essentially the price of Calvin Ridley

Certainly not an offer I would have taken in the off-season, so my valuation on JuJu personally has certainly dropped. I think you'll find that owners now are willing to sell at a bit of a 'discount' compared to what they probably paid for him
Ridley's value has also skyrocketed this season though...probably worth more than JuJu was this offseason. I think it's kind of nuts that you were able to sell JuJu for that return right now.
Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up


Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1

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Re: Juju Price Check

Postby never_punts » Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:26 am

hoos89 wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:23 am
never_punts wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:13 am FWIW, someone just bought JuJu + early 2nd from me for essentially the price of Calvin Ridley

Certainly not an offer I would have taken in the off-season, so my valuation on JuJu personally has certainly dropped. I think you'll find that owners now are willing to sell at a bit of a 'discount' compared to what they probably paid for him
Ridley's value has also skyrocketed this season though...probably worth more than JuJu was this offseason. I think it's kind of nuts that you were able to sell JuJu for that return right now.
Yeah, to be frank the deal was a little more complex than that: I gave JuJu + Slayton + two '21 2nds for Ridley + Monty
Team #1: 12-Team - PPR - *SF* - 4pt Pass - IDP
25 Roster + 5 Taxi | QB, RB, 2-WR, TE, SFLX, 3-FLX | DL, LB, DB
The Moore the Murray-er (2022 Champ 8-) )
QB: Burrow - Lamar - Kyler
RB: Ekeler - Saquon - Gainwell
WR: Amon Ra - Hopkins - Godwin - K.Allen- QJ - Hollywood - Diontae - Shaheed- Wandale - Woods
TE: Kelce - Engram - Ferg - Chig
DL: Hunter | LB: Okereke | DB: Bynum
'24 Picks: Late 1st, Early 2nd, Late 2nd

Team #2: 12-Team - PPR - *SF* - 6pt Pass - TE Prem
25 Roster + 5 Taxi | QB, RB, 2-WR, TE, SFLX, 3-FLX
Team #2 (0-0)
QB: Murray - Allen - Winston
RB: Cook - Saquon - Mattison - Hull
WR: Diontae - Tyreek - Lockett - Higgins - Chark - TMJ - Kirk - Dell
TE: Ertz - Engram - Mayer
'24 Picks: My 1st, 2nd, and 3rd

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Re: Juju Price Check

Postby Tecmo » Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:50 am

I'm about to trade away a 2021 mid-late 1st for Juju, Jeudy and Phillip Lindsay

I'll be dropping Scotty miller, G.Everett and Perine in a 12 team 1/2 ppr

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Re: Juju Price Check

Postby abloom » Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:03 am

Tecmo wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:50 am I'm about to trade away a 2021 mid-late 1st for Juju, Jeudy and Phillip Lindsay

I'll be dropping Scotty miller, G.Everett and Perine in a 12 team 1/2 ppr
you should be arrested...
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01

Team #5 4th
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009

Team #6 orphan
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07

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Re: Juju Price Check

Postby hoos89 » Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:11 am

abloom wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:03 am
Tecmo wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:50 am I'm about to trade away a 2021 mid-late 1st for Juju, Jeudy and Phillip Lindsay

I'll be dropping Scotty miller, G.Everett and Perine in a 12 team 1/2 ppr
you should be arrested...
This is the worst trade deal in the history of trade deals, maybe ever.
Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up


Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1

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Re: Juju Price Check

Postby Gator Sens » Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:15 am

hoos89 wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:11 am
abloom wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:03 am
Tecmo wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:50 am I'm about to trade away a 2021 mid-late 1st for Juju, Jeudy and Phillip Lindsay

I'll be dropping Scotty miller, G.Everett and Perine in a 12 team 1/2 ppr
you should be arrested...
This is the worst trade deal in the history of trade deals, maybe ever.
Crazy deal

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Re: Juju Price Check

Postby never_punts » Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:35 am

Tecmo wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:50 am I'm about to trade away a 2021 mid-late 1st for Juju, Jeudy and Phillip Lindsay

I'll be dropping Scotty miller, G.Everett and Perine in a 12 team 1/2 ppr
Wow... jeudy alone is worth a 1st+
Team #1: 12-Team - PPR - *SF* - 4pt Pass - IDP
25 Roster + 5 Taxi | QB, RB, 2-WR, TE, SFLX, 3-FLX | DL, LB, DB
The Moore the Murray-er (2022 Champ 8-) )
QB: Burrow - Lamar - Kyler
RB: Ekeler - Saquon - Gainwell
WR: Amon Ra - Hopkins - Godwin - K.Allen- QJ - Hollywood - Diontae - Shaheed- Wandale - Woods
TE: Kelce - Engram - Ferg - Chig
DL: Hunter | LB: Okereke | DB: Bynum
'24 Picks: Late 1st, Early 2nd, Late 2nd

Team #2: 12-Team - PPR - *SF* - 6pt Pass - TE Prem
25 Roster + 5 Taxi | QB, RB, 2-WR, TE, SFLX, 3-FLX
Team #2 (0-0)
QB: Murray - Allen - Winston
RB: Cook - Saquon - Mattison - Hull
WR: Diontae - Tyreek - Lockett - Higgins - Chark - TMJ - Kirk - Dell
TE: Ertz - Engram - Mayer
'24 Picks: My 1st, 2nd, and 3rd

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Re: Juju Price Check

Postby dd041496 » Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:36 am

hoos89 wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:11 am
abloom wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:03 am
Tecmo wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:50 am I'm about to trade away a 2021 mid-late 1st for Juju, Jeudy and Phillip Lindsay

I'll be dropping Scotty miller, G.Everett and Perine in a 12 team 1/2 ppr
you should be arrested...
This is the worst trade deal in the history of trade deals, maybe ever.
Do you have a spot open in your league? If people are making these deals, I want in on the easy money...
12 team league, 0.5 ppr
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX, K, DEF
QB- Burrow, Watson
RB- Kamara, Jacobs, Gibbs, K Williams, Gibson, CEH
WR- Jefferson, Hill, Godwin, M Brown, Collins
TE- Kelce, Schultz

Practice squad notables:
J Addison
Puka Nacua
M Mayer

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Re: Juju Price Check

Postby hoos89 » Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:37 am

never_punts wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:35 am
Tecmo wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:50 am I'm about to trade away a 2021 mid-late 1st for Juju, Jeudy and Phillip Lindsay

I'll be dropping Scotty miller, G.Everett and Perine in a 12 team 1/2 ppr
Wow... jeudy alone is worth a 1st+
Seriously, no way I sell my Jeudy share for a mid-first in next year's class.
Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up


Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1

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Re: Juju Price Check

Postby nathanq42 » Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:41 am

hoos89 wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:11 am
abloom wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:03 am
Tecmo wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:50 am I'm about to trade away a 2021 mid-late 1st for Juju, Jeudy and Phillip Lindsay

I'll be dropping Scotty miller, G.Everett and Perine in a 12 team 1/2 ppr
you should be arrested...
This is the worst trade deal in the history of trade deals, maybe ever.
Try 2016 1.01 for 2016 1.07, 2.07, 3.07 (not me, but pissed off the league for awhile)
12 Team 1 ppr .1 points per carry
Garbage
QB Jalen Hurts
RB A-train, D'Onta Foreman,Jahmyr Gibbs, JK Dobbins, Rashaad Penny, AJ Dillon, Jerrick McKinnon, Joshua Kelley, TDP, Chase Edmonds, JRob, Zamir White
WR CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, DJ Moore, Hollywood Brown, Brandin Cooks, Odell Beckham Junior, Marvin Jones, Braxton Berrios, Richie James
TE Dalton Kincaid, Foster Moreau
+2 Flex
1.02, 1.06

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Re: Juju Price Check

Postby hoos89 » Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:44 am

Honestly I think this deal is worse, especially considering that 1.07 shouldve been MT or Henry based on ADP in June '16.
Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up


Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1


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